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Omega wrote:
Depends. Do clouds move around as much as the Hammer Bros? If they don't move at all, it might actually save time when you finish a level because you'd avoid the small delay caused by their movement on the world map.
Yes, the treasure ship moves as if it were a Hammer Bros.
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DeHackEd wrote:
Super-rapid-fire X-Buster is faster in taking down the Spark Mandrill miniboss, but that measurement was made without the ability to overcharge the Strom Tornado (read: the miniboss came down to ground level like he normally does given the chance).
Storm Eage's sub tank: the current console speedrun grabs the tank from the otherside of its little containing room. This might be worth considering along with using the boomerang to snag it.
Dash-shot X-Buster auto-fire tears apart enemies with no flashing (if you look at what I did to Chop Register in X2). So that's why I tested it out. If you look at my run, you can easily tell that I didn't do enough testing, though.
As for Storm Eagle's sub-tank, I entered from the left side only because the platforms were in the wrong places when I got there. I'll test it for real when I get there next time.
If you look at my X2 run (or even just this run), you can tell that I like to charge weapons against bosses. Though I saved a lot of time in X2 charging up, I won't have so much luck in X1. For one, it takes 180 frames to charge up to max, up from 150 in X2. Bosses have a 60 frame invincibility most of the time. And weapons already do 3 uncharged while when charged, they do 4 (except Armored Armadillo, 6). Hardly a worthwhile thing to do (charging up, that is).
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A Runnelid wrote:
Am I missing something or would it not be faster to come at the mechanical bees in the intro stage with charged initial shot?
In Spark Mandrill's stage, would it not be faster to kill off the sub-boss with a normal Storm shot (that hits twice) as opposed to climbing up twice with the regular arm cannon?
First question: Yes it is, but I forgot.
Second question: Probably, but I was just testing the X-Buster to see how effective it was.
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Yeah, my boss battles are all bad in this run. Why I even charge up maverick weapons at all is a mystery (except for Armored Armadillo).
DeHackEd wrote:
It seems to defy logic, but for the minecart, it's best to maximize airtime. Your dash-jump speed is greater than the sum of your minecart speed and your dash's speed. In my X1 run, you'll see what I did, and it turns out to be fast, even though I have to dash normally on the ground vs flying directly into Armadillo's anteroom.
True, but in this situation, catching the bottom-left corner of the capsule encounter zone requires jumping from the spot shown in my movie. Otherwise, the capsule location count doesn't go up.
I use the cheat search functionality to monitor the contents of memory location 7E1F7E.
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You're nothing thinking of Chameleon Sting'ing Storm Eagle, are you?
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DeHackEd wrote:
I've gotten work done on an improved version of my current minimalist run. I've already improved the intro stage by ~25 frames in various ways, and I'm not even done with it yet. There's already work started on the 100% run as well, but not by me.
Here goes nothing.
I'm currently going for 100%. The test run I have right now is for 100%, but can apply to the minimalist run.
The biggest issue here is how to deal with the hadoken capsule. Here's how I would do it:
- First visit to A.A. stage. Don't get any items here. While riding mine carts, reduce health to 1 or 2. Trigger capsule encounter (#1). Suicide on a bird (or something).
- Trigger capsule encounter (#2). Hold left and drop directly into the pit.
- Trigger capsule encounter (#3). Fight armadillo.
- Second visit to A.A. stage (with all items and upgrades in all other levels). Get the sub-tank. While riding mine carts, reduce health to 1 (not easy). Trigger capsule encounter (#4). Suicide on a bird.
- Get the heart tank. Get the hadoken (#5).
I also do Boomer Kuwanger's stage second (after Chill Penguin). The Boomerang Cutter is useful for grabbing items, and saves having to revisit Spark Mandrill's stage. However, I can't seem to grab the heart tank in Sting Chameleon's stage without defeating Launch Octopus. If it is possible to grab the heart tank with just the Boomerang Cutter, please let me know. Launch Octopus second is not an option.
Here is the test run so far (up to Armadillo defeated). Note that this is a test run, so it's not an example of a good run. Also, I didn't exactly suicide on a bird. :|
http://dehacked.2y.net/microstorage.php/info/183/Mega%20Man%20X%20%28V1.1%29%20%28U%29.smv
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AngerFist wrote:
Just wanted to say that Im so damn impressed by your work! I loved the use of that Grappling Beam or whatever its called, although I wished you could have used it more in many other places.
Yeah. It seems as though when I got the Speed Burner, I favored it over the Strike Chain.
I don't know why, but in the movie description, it doesn't say "Items: 100%", even though it says that in Blechy's movie description.
Edit: I am thinking of uploading some .avi movies to archive.org.
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Looks pretty good. I believe too that at the second ladder, only two jumps should be made on the left wall (like you did). A third one doesn't seem to fit.
Edit: Never mind
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Graveworm wrote:
How do I skip the intro? I played around with this game in frame advance today, and I decided I might make a naked run, just to see how much longer it'd take than doing it with all the pickups.
And yeah, I've played this game for a very long time, and I liked this movie, but since I'm new I can't vote. :P Too bad.
From the beginning (frame 1) press start for two frames then release start for two frames, and repeat over and over until the 550th frame. Best with a hex-editor.
Actually, never mind. Just clip out the first 600 frames of DeHackEd's run and use that.
http://tasvideos.org/750S.htmlEdit: I have no idea why it works.
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mazzeneko wrote:
I have one question.
When/If I make a mistake recording a movie and get hit by a enemy AND press save state at the same time can I resume the movie in some way before I get hit? Like resuming the movie few frames before the mistake and make a correction. I can't seem to figure anything out. playing the movie in certain point and Record from now just records the movie at that point, not from the start of the old movie.
TIA
ps. I'm no hax0r so don't suggest any hexediting or some other **** like that :T
Rerun the movie as read-only from the beginning or a previous savestate. When you get to the part just before the mistake, make a savestate. Then disable read-only and re-record from the savestate.
Remember to back up your movies often.
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FODA wrote:
SUICIDED at world 7 first small forstress because i couldnt figure where to find a freaking leaf!!!! lost huge time here, then skipped the level with a cloud.
For your information, there is a tanooki suit stashed somewhere. I'll leave it to you to figure out. :)
It's the only way to beat this level (assuming you didn't come in with flying power).
FODA wrote:
I entered the gold ship in world 6. The good side to this is that i got a cloud on it.
The gold ship magically spawned from a hammer bros. due to a special score and coin count after beating a stage.
Please try not to turn one of the map hammer bros. into a gold ship, and if it does, and you can't avoid it, reset the game and try again.
The gold ship is a time-waster on speedruns. You can't even skip it with a music box. The final prize is exactly the same as what you would get from the hammer bros.
FODA wrote:
I tried to use the cloud on the tank! but didnt work lol.... could have skipped one extra level, what a waste...
The clouds do not work on automatic encounters and final stages. Better luck next time!
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asteron wrote:
FractalFusion wrote:
It's probably a time-waster. As soon as I got the Speed Burner, I overused it as if I thought it was always faster than Strike Chain or just plain dashing. In this case, I basically used the Speed Burner as soon as possible without regard to height.
Wait Speed Burner is not faster than dashing?! Wow It certainly looks it.
I worded it a bit strange. Speed Burner is faster than dashing but by very little. I just abused it like it was always better to use the Speed Burner, and as much as possible.
As for the jumping thing, throughout the run, I was not sure whether releasing and pressing B to jump as soon as possible (suppose I jump from the outside layer of the wall) was the best, or if it was better to wait out slightly (assuming the wall is arbitrarily high). I know that I should try to reach the next ledge as close to the height of a jump when possible. I think anyone who goes through the run frame by frame would be surprised at the inconsistency of my jumps.
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nitsuja wrote:
Lots of close calls in here. (Far from perfect, but exciting and way better than I could do.)
Has there ever been a time attack of this game under these same rules? I think I've seen a 1:17 one but that had some other weird restrictions.
Yes there is. It's far more restrictive.
http://tasvideos.org/movies.cgi?playerid=5Edit: You mean a TAS with only the no-warp restriction? Chances are with the above TAS, any TAS with less restriction would not be accepted.
TAS aside, I recall that Radix only wants a 100% level speedrun if it must be warpless.
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kooz wrote:
Looks like the rom used was: Mega Man X 2 (U) [o1]
Just FYI
Hmm... what does [o1] mean? I thought there was only one US version of Mega Man X2.
ROM sites have different names for ROM's, so I'm not sure about consistency.
Squ4ll- wrote:
Yes because its faster than the previous submission and i thought it looked better. One thing that caught my eye(might be nothing), in the first x hunter stage after the first 8 bosses. One of the ladders there. You charge up the fire beam(dunno what its called) and use it to reach the ladder, but you fall a little bit down before you grab the ladder.
It's probably a time-waster. As soon as I got the Speed Burner, I overused it as if I thought it was always faster than Strike Chain or just plain dashing. In this case, I basically used the Speed Burner as soon as possible without regard to height.
I know this run can be improved. Skipping the intro even more, jumping up ladders, using the Strike Chain more and the Speed Burner less, and especially jumping up walls. If anybody can tell me the optimum pattern for jumping up a straight wall, that would be great. (Or maybe I'll try and figure out myself.)
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Kitsune wrote:
I noticed the internal clock stays the same on the VBA Emulator if you speed up the frames as well. I used to do that just to make eggs hatch faster. :3
So it indeed stays the same no matter what.
The internal clock acts in real time, but only when not recording. I recorded a run at 200% speed. Comparing to the computer clock, the in-game clock (always relative to the internal clock) ran twice as fast. I was worried before that I would have to play back a movie at the same speed with which it was made to avoid desync.
The timer that controls egg-hatching runs on the number of steps you take, not on any clock. So, generally speaking, speeding up emulation makes eggs hatch faster. :)
Edit: I think I got everyone worried about the situation. It wasn't as bad as I made it out to be. My post came at a time when I didn't have immediate access to Pokemon GSC and I didn't actually know how Maza's run desynced.
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Jack wrote:
i found what i was looking for. not just + or -, but shift then + or -. thanks anyway
Then you probably have the official Snes9x v1.43 WIP/Final. There, shift + slows down emulation speed. In Snes9x v1.43 improvement (unofficial version), - slows down emulation speed. Of course, with the unofficial version, you can set the keys to whatever you like.
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Maza wrote:
About the internal clock thing: I don't know about VBA but when i played Pokemon Crystal through with my phone (Nokia 3230) using vBoy emulator, it seemd to use the clock of the phone even though I was playing with double fps. So I played with double speed but the clock was workin in real time and was correct now matter what time I played it. Mayby VBA has also an internal clock something like this.
When not recording, VBA syncs the internal clock with the system clock. When recording, VBA syncs the internal clock with the game's frame counter.
I believe now that the desync in your movie was caused by some random timing discrepancy rather than the internal clock, but I won't be sure that the clock won't cause problems until someone makes substantial progress.
