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Dada wrote:
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Thanks for throwing all reasons for redundancy out the window.
Redundancy is good, but Youtube is up more often than TASVideos is
For us perhaps. But then every other month the Great Firewall of China, or Iran blocks YouTube to prevent the spreading of anti-government propaganda.
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Brandon wrote:
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Brandon wrote:
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Brandon wrote:
It doesn't matter; we have 2 videos left. Let's just do them and be done with Google Videos.
But if we have an alternative mirror, we should have it listed, no reason to remove it.
But they're planning on eliminating Google Videos eventually. Besides, we removed all but those two links already.
I fail to see the logic in this.
For the time being, Google Videos, and every other streaming site for that matter that we're currently using is still available, and there's no reason to not offer our viewers a perfectly viable option.
When we uploaded the YouTube counterparts to the Google Videos, Grunt said that we should remove the Google Video link, stating that they'd be invalid soon enough. I don't know why an extension of the deadline would change that.
At the moment, there is no deadline at all.
Dada wrote:
Google Video sucks anyway, the quality is abysmal. Better let people use the Youtube version and optionally switch to 240p if they need to.
Thanks for throwing all reasons for redundancy out the window.
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You can migrate them to YouTube, they're not migrating them just yet.
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Brandon wrote:
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Brandon wrote:
It doesn't matter; we have 2 videos left. Let's just do them and be done with Google Videos.
But if we have an alternative mirror, we should have it listed, no reason to remove it.
But they're planning on eliminating Google Videos eventually. Besides, we removed all but those two links already.
I fail to see the logic in this.
For the time being, Google Videos, and every other streaming site for that matter that we're currently using is still available, and there's no reason to not offer our viewers a perfectly viable option.
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Brandon wrote:
It doesn't matter; we have 2 videos left. Let's just do them and be done with Google Videos.
Sure, let's mirror the other two on YouTube.
But if we have an alternative mirror, we should have it listed, no reason to remove it.
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Now that they're no longer shutting down Google Videos, please restore links to all Google Videos.
Edit: On second thought, look at Grunt's list on the previous page.
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Warp wrote:
I'm wondering if some people are voting no because they are comparing it to the TAS of the first brain age game, rather than judging this on its own right. After all, this is not competing with, nor trying to obsolete the first one.
I'd say the relevant question is: Assume the TAS of the first brain age did not exist at all. Would you still vote no on this one?
I would.
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ALAKTORN wrote:
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Hence I suggest trying to draw a story or something we can follow and be entertained by, instead of just wavy lines or whatever that went on here. If this game is too restricting to draw something entertaining, then it's not TAS worthy.
that's where it seems you haven't read the submission text, he purposefully made 'wavy lines' to speed up the TAS because people complained about the previous run being slow
That still doesn't justify this being 8 minutes of boredom.
Lex wrote:
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Lex wrote:
Someone asked me "What entertainment?" The main source of entertainment was in the hilarity of the game not noticing the nonsense that was going on and considering him 100% correct. How did you not get that? I don't understand.
We've already seen this hilarity, we get it, the game is confused, great.
So, yes, you've seen too many TASes by now and are no longer entertained by what makes them entertaining to people who haven't seen TASes. Notice the 56 likes and 0 dislikes on YouTube? Maybe you should consider what other people not TAS-overloaded would think after seeing this movie.
In terms of judging, you're right, that has to be weighed. But I'm saying this as my own personal opinion, not as a judge. I'll let someone else decide the fate of this run.
My opinion is that this run was not entertaining.
It was the same thing over and over and over again, and nothing redeemed it. The only picture I was entertained by was the last one, and that entertainment lasted less than 3 seconds.
If you enjoy seeing the same thing over and over for 8 minutes and it entertains you great. I don't think this would've entertained me a decade ago either before I've seen hundreds of TASs. In any event, it surely doesn't entertain me now.
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Lex wrote:
Someone asked me "What entertainment?" The main source of entertainment was in the hilarity of the game not noticing the nonsense that was going on and considering him 100% correct. How did you not get that? I don't understand.
What does that have to do with the submission text?
We've already seen this hilarity, we get it, the game is confused, great. Would you now like to watch a 6 hour run of me putting a smiley face on the screen and getting it confused? Surely you will get bored after a while.
The beauty of the previous runs weren't just that the game was confused, but that the player could put something creative into his breaking of the game. Something that we could recognize and appreciate. He also managed to pack it full of references to Super Smash Bros which is a popular franchise.
Hey, I get what's going on in this run, but how does it entertain? The game is broken, great, I knew that before watching it, I know that 10 second into watching. How do you justify 8 minutes of this?
If you're going to play a game like this, then do something with the 8 minutes. This is akin to classic platforming games with an auto-scrolling level where the author doesn't do anything. Super Mario Bros 3 wouldn't be the classic it is if not for the 99 lives collected.
Hence I suggest trying to draw a story or something we can follow and be entertained by, instead of just wavy lines or whatever that went on here. If this game is too restricting to draw something entertaining, then it's not TAS worthy.
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Lex wrote:
I'm assuming Nach didn't read the submission text at all.
You assume wrong.
I don't know what you think is in the submission text that redeems it, this run is not entertaining. If the game is too constraining, then the game is not TAS worthy.
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I have a suggestion for future Brain Age runs, don't just randomly choose pictures to draw, but tell a story.
Perhaps recreate the intro to Zero Wing or something else famous.
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Unlike the first game, I didn't like this one so much.
Aside from a few pictures, most were rather boring. Much of the run was also filled with boring segments, such as playing the piano or watching figures running.
I don't find entertainment in this run, I'm strongly voting no.
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Yes, we're stopping this.
It turns out Brushy acted exactly how the user in question parents' wanted us to act.
Case closed.
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Warp wrote:
Nach wrote:
You can use your imagination to determine what problems could result of a photo.
I honestly can't even begin to imagine what these problems might be, especially since no contact information is divulged. (And even then it sounds so extremely far-fetched as to be ridiculous. What? Is a neighbor going to stalk and rape him because he saw his photo on an online forum?)
I'm surprised you don't have more of an imagination here.
Say for example he's in witness protection, and the photo of him has some kind of landmark in the background. Those looking for him might recognize him and know where he is.
Warp wrote:
Just be happy we allow him to speak at all.
I'm again leaning on believing this is just some really elaborate joke. You can't be serious.
I'm 100% serious.
Also, over IRC I received information that his parents indeed don't want him to be giving our such personal information. This should be the end of the matter.
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Warp wrote:
Nach wrote:
In the case of Patryk1023, he is quite young and possibly naive. Further, we don't know what is or isn't going on in his life. Who are we to say if organized crime is after him or not? As remote a possibility it is for him to be negatively affected by posting his photo, it's not up to us, or him for that matter to decide that. It's up to his parents and/or legal guardian. Our staff should err on the side of caution and look to protect our minors, I applaud whoever removed the photo.
You have to admit that the above paragraph is pure unadultered paranoia.
Regardless of that, no matter how paranoid you are, you aren't paranoid enough.
Warp wrote:
If you are so concerned about his age, well, his age was already mentioned in this thread. That alone would constitute a serious breach of private information, according to that logic. What difference is a photo going to make? (In fact, divulging someone's age could be considered even worse than him posting his own photo which, without current age information, could just as well be a childhood photo taken 15 years ago for all we know.)
Read what I said again, his age implies he can't properly know if he should or shouldn't be posting said photo. You can use your imagination to determine what problems could result of a photo. Just be happy we allow him to speak at all.
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Warp wrote:
I honestly can't believe this is a serious policy. Facepalm:
(I suppose the above image is bannable as well. After all, it shows a photo of a minor.)
I don't think that person is a minor anymore, furthermore, his parents already gave consent to the mass distribution of that image.
More to the point though, there is no need for people to share their photos here. Your presence here will not be in any way negatively affected if you can't share your photo.
In terms of what might happen to people who share their photo, use your imagination, I'm sure there's plenty of good works of fiction out there that present remote possibilities. Someone with plenty of life experience could weigh the possibilities and decide for him/herself if such a risk is worth taking or not.
In the case of Patryk1023, he is quite young and possibly naive. Further, we don't know what is or isn't going on in his life. Who are we to say if organized crime is after him or not? As remote a possibility it is for him to be negatively affected by posting his photo, it's not up to us, or him for that matter to decide that. It's up to his parents and/or legal guardian. Our staff should err on the side of caution and look to protect our minors, I applaud whoever removed the photo.
Before raising a ruckus about censorship or whatever, if you yourself are a parent, or you yourself have been a target in the past, you may appreciate what we're doing. If not, please don't prevent us from protecting users from things you don't understand. Thank you.
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Um, aren't the videos there on Google Videos generated from our videos that are available via torrent or archive? Why not just take the one from there and put it on YouTube?
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moozooh wrote:
Synx wrote:
I skimmed through some of the discussion before posting here and would like to say that it would be a damn shame if the racist americans reject this japanese masterpiece.
Damn right! I haven't realized it at first, but TASvideos is indeed racist. If you look at the goombas in the top-left corner, you'll notice that their skin is brown! And Mario is going to stomp on them! Also note that, while SDA backgrounds are mostly black, TASVideos's are white or very light blue, indicating white supremacy.
I couldn't agree with you more. Further, we should round up everyone that doesn't have a strong German rooted or German sounding name, take them out back, and shoot them.
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<Patryk1023> Nach: translate that: Dzisiaj jemy obiad na granicy niemiecko-polskiej. :)
<Nach> Patryk1023: sounds good, whose for lunch?
<Patryk1023> me!
<Patryk1023> me for lunch!
<Nach> Patryk1023: oh, delicious
* Nach invites brother leeches to enjoy first dibs
<Patryk1023> Nach: Well, I wanna to eat from all guys from here, but flygon can't fly to Poland from Australia...
Sometimes I really wonder if we speak the same language...
Edit:
Some time later:
<Nach> Patryk1023: is Polish meat good?
<Patryk1023> Nach: yeah! ^^
<Nach> Patryk1023: so how many people have you devoured?
<Patryk1023> errr... WHAT!?
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Can each of you who is expert in your language write how to say "<language> forum" in your language? I'm going to use it for a link on the site. Thanks.
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DarkKobold wrote:
Nach wrote:
The motherboard is about 1.5 years old, not sure why you're assuming anything here. There is no serial port.
I guess I figured PS2 port + dos = old. Hence why I called it an assumption.
Having just a single PS/2 port on a machine (outside of laptops, and given there are PS/2 ports at all) is a rather recent phenomenon. I think it started ~2-3 ago.
Interestingly enough though, I found that my motherboard has a header for a serial port...
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Warp wrote:
Nach wrote:
Since then, I've swapped them on at least a dozen machines, as well as hot swapped mice without any issues at all. I don't know what to believe...
AFAIK the technical specification of the PS/2 port doesn't require support for hot-swapping, and I assume that the oldest and cheapest motherboards had no safety measures against it, so you could potentially damage the circuit, and even in the best cases the system would not detect the swapping. Better motherboards probably have safety measures to avoid this, even if the standard doesn't require it.
And every motherboard I worked with which came out in the past decade or so seems to be the latter kind...
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Tub wrote:
y-cables are nonstandard, if your motherboard supports them you could expect
a) that the feature is documented / advertised
b) that a suitable y-cable is either included or available directly from the mobo-vendor, because they aren't standardized either.
Interesting, I heard opposing opinions elsewhere. Is there any truth to mice and keyboards being wired differently?
The motherboard documents that it works for both mouse and keyboard, but doesn't specify if whether that's at the same time or not.
DarkKobold wrote:
I own an old MS Home Mouse with a serial connector.
DarkKobold wrote:
If the computer is as old as I'm assuming, then it probably has a serial port on it.
The motherboard is about 1.5 years old, not sure why you're assuming anything here. There is no serial port.
DarkKobold wrote:
Man, this brings back memories of playing inside AUTOEXEC.BAT and CONFIG.SYS, trying to get things to work.
FILES = 40!!!!
Still no idea what that meant.
How many files should you be allowed to open at once under various conditions.
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Warp wrote:
Nach wrote:
Warp wrote:
We could also have Firewalls that are hard to pass.
I do a lot of network related programming, and also manage networks. Till this day, I'm still not quite sure what a "firewall" is.
More seriously, I suppose it's, roughly, any device or program that can be configured to restrict access to networked resources (either inbound or outbound), as opposed to a networked device accepting any and all requests without discrimination.
So if I lock down all ports except for one, and allow access to that port only with certain user names and the correct password for each one, that's a firewall?
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(I suppose the above image is bannable as well. After all, it shows a photo of a minor.)