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I'm seeing that the response to this video is split pretty much down the middle.
How would you guys feel about it being a concept demo?
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The file you sent me:
Filename: Legend of Zelda, The - A Link to the Past (U) [!].zmv
Valid enhanced ZMV detected.
ZMV Version: 151
ROM CRC32: 777AAC2F
Movie timing is NTSC (60FPS).
Uncompressed ZST size: 275291
ZMV starts from ZST.
Anonymous movie.
Total frames: 46966
Estimated duration: 13:02.767
Re-recorded 0 times.
Frames dropped by re-recordings: 0
Frames advanced step-by-step: 0 (0%)
Average recording FPS: 60.00
Key combinations used 0 times.
0 internal chapters.
0 external chapters.
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Thank you, I have received it.
I have to go take care of a few things, I will hopefully post my results this evening.
Edit: In the mean time, I'll let others test it: http://tasvideos.org/~nach/lttp.zip
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I see.
Can you e-mail me the ZMV then?
Send to joecool22us@yahoo.com
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That means you didn't start the game from power on + sram clear.
Where exactly did you start from?
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If you managed to beat A Link to the Past in 3 minutes and 10 seconds, would you also like to submit the ZMV here? That would be a new record. A very unexpected record.
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The frame count is from the very beginning of the movie.
If you want to upload YouTube, you only need to include what you want to include.
If you want to submit the movie here, we only want the ZMV file. We'll make the AVI (or MKV) ourselves.
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gabrielwoj wrote:
the frames, I need to stop on "THE END" right?
That depends what you want to do. Stopping at the end of the movie means that the AVI will contain the entire length of the ZMV.
If you want the movie to be longer than the ZMV, for example if you stopped the movie when you pressed everything you needed to for the game ending to run, but it does not include the ending itself, then either figure out how many frames extra it needs, and put in a frame number, or just dump until stop, and press stop when you see it dumped everything you wanted.
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gabrielwoj wrote:
but on forums of ZSNES the link of LAME is dead (broken)
I know, however you don't really need it. Just don't check the box which says "compress audio".
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Highness wrote:
Sorry, but I don't think this game will be fun enough though the entire TAS.
Future tense? You didn't actually watch the whole thing?
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Baxter wrote:
I consider this to be a sign of a very bad game choice for TASing, if less than 200 rerecords can make a perfect movie.
On the contrary, it should be a good game choice to demonstrate to newbies. It would go great as part of a guide to making TASs.
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Mukki wrote:
This all reminds me of the recent furore surrounding F-Zero/Top Gear publications, but instead of one-level it's a sample of three levels.
F-Zero and Top Gear each have many different tracks. Duck Hunt has a total of 3 kinds, which just constantly repeat until you fall below par. This run is not analogous to those racing games, as every area of Duck Hunt was shown, and completed.
Derakon wrote:
Isn't "Perfect" determined not by wasted shots, but by not letting any of the birds fly away?
I don't remember, as I haven't played the game in years, but you could be right. Obviously if the bird has to fly away to miss a perfect screen, then it won't be time saving.
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I don't know why you canceled this either.
On a technical level, your movie would be hard to beat, if not impossible (Hint: would purposely wasting a shot save time, by avoiding the perfect screen?).
On an entertainment level, it was fine for a movie less than 2 minutes long. Watching TASs for years, I don't find this impressive at all, but looking at it from a newbie perspective, this movie is indeed impressive and showcases the power of TASing games.
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Kyman wrote:
[22:14] <TASVideoAgent> Page 1459M created by Aktan (): http://tasvideos.org/1459M.html
[22:14] <TASVideoAgent> New movie published! Go and see [1459] N64 Mystical Ninja Starring Goemon (USA) by zggzdydp in 2:04:49.35 at http://tasvideos.org/1459M.html
Chaos ensues.
Don't forget the extra ~5 minutes for the cache to clear on the submission page.
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Here's an exact universal time:
<Nach> February 10 2010 3:20 AM UTC, we finally won!
Congrads everyone!
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Warp wrote:
adelikat wrote:
I don't see why categories should precede the ID
While it's somewhat unlikely that someone would keep a collection of runs
I do.
Older runs many times take alternate routes which are interesting to see. It's sometimes nice to see the progression of runs. Many older runs are also more entertaining in certain ways.
For me at least, it'd be nice to have them organized.
Warp wrote:
How about avi, mkv and mp4? What systems do they correspond to?-)
In addition to that, here is another (rather stupid) point: Some OSs hide extensions, and if all you see is some generic text file icon, but the movie opens up and plays, it'd be nice to see nes-lemmings-whatever and snes-lemmings-whatever, instead of wondering which is which, and forcing you to change your OS settings (albeit, I'd personally drag out back and shoot any user who leaves file extensions hidden).
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Xkeeper wrote:
Nach wrote:
Xkeeper wrote:
prefixing the system name is stupid, especially given that it's, you know, at the end of the file anyway
No, it isn't. And, no, it isn't.
fm2 nes
gmv genesis
vbm gameboy/gba
smv snes
so yes, it is, just in a slightly more obscure but easily identifiable format if you've been watching a tas movie for more than, you know, one time
Thanks for not reading the thread.
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Xkeeper wrote:
prefixing the system name is stupid, especially given that it's, you know, at the end of the file anyway
No, it isn't. And, no, it isn't.
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Derakon wrote:
Don't forget subtitles. Those can also be helpful, and they can be easier to create than voiceover tracks since you don't have to worry about your vocal presentation and can easily go back and edit things. Moreover, it's easy to include soft subtitles in the published encodes.
Also, our site code now supports playback subtitles for online streaming from archive.org, and being able to turn it on and off.
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If we're only talking about those 2 racing 1 level demos, I'm in favor of removing them.
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Warp:
While I like the obsoletion chain idea in theory, that can be a bit hard to implement considering double obsoletions, and site administrators changing them on a whim. Just consider the recent suggestion to use a phantom movie to obsolete.
Given its shaky nature, I don't think it's a good idea to make use of it, and even then, it would be hard to always do right, and could mean renaming published movie files and forcing people to redownload torrents.
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arkiandruski wrote:
Why do we need author version numbers, for example? I really can't think of any useful information they provide.
So I know the difference between seeing:
SNES_Super_Metroid-100%-cpadolf-268.avi
SNES_Super_Metroid-100%-cpadolf-547.avi
SNES_Super_Metroid-100%-JXQ-380.avi
SNES_Super_Metroid-any%-cpadolf-537.avi
It's not strictly needed. But if we're going to put it there, it should be after the player name.
arkiandruski wrote:
To tell you the truth, I never had any problems finding the torrent I wanted to watch.
I would hope not, this site isn't so hard to navigate that you can't find the torrents.
I'm talking about videos on your hard drive here.
arkiandruski wrote:
Why do you think movie numbers should be at the end? If we must use movie numbers, we should have them serve a double function and let them be used as a sorting mechanism. At the end of the filename, they don't serve that function and just feel like they are tacked on, not serving any real useful purpose.
Well, where else would they be? Surely not at the beginning.
arkiandruski wrote:
Putting system first, I have no problems with, except to say that it almost feels unnecessary, but I keep movie files for different systems in different folders. Also, on input files, the extension tells you what system they are from, and if you can play a movie file on an emulator, you know how to look for a proper extension (also, emulators won't let you try to play movie files they don't support). On torrents, from what I've seen, the naming has been pretty good about giving the system when it was needed. I almost feel that if we have to, the system name should come after the game name still.
It is necessary for the reasons I described above. Maybe after the game name is better, but it doesn't feel as natural there.
As per above, also names should match between video files and input files, so no excuses of looking at the extension for input files.
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