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Going off two address which act exactly the same in both regions I managed to get you guys frame times.
These work more of a total time thing where it's setup and doing the level.
**They both reset after a loading screen.
_N?K_ | Hâthor | Difference
05307 | 08153 | -2846
04548 | 03974 | +574
08049 | 07187 | +862
00000 | 11007 | 0000000000 | 11832 | 00000
07958 | 07472 | +486
04032 | 04303 | -271
04740 | 03633 | +1107
06353 | 05805 | +548
16632 | 16112 | +520
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57865 | 56805 | +980
Final Inputs: 59885 | 107560* (82069)
*The extra input was showing stats.
** Japan's values freeze and NTSC actually drop the number and waits for a restart.
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Patashu wrote:
A TAS is deliberately played on a version that has less levels to make the game end faster?
I can think of another game that has been TASed which had less levels.
Gex: Enter the Gecko (Gex64)
The Nintendo 64 version has less levels to the Playstation and PC version...
Wikipedia:
The Nintendo 64 version of Gex: Enter the Gecko was entitled Gex 64: Enter the Gecko. This version features a new level, which replaced the secret levels. It is titled "Gecques Cousteau", a play on the French diver Jacques Cousteau, and is centered on the RMS Titanic, and played almost entirely underwater.
Other changes include fewer bonus levels and fewer quotes, due to the Nintendo 64 cartridges storing significantly less data for games than CDs. Some of the sound effects were altered slightly. The only normal level that was removed was Scream TV's "Poltergex".
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Found this on YouTube.
Link to video
I actually got a little interested in this game but that's when I realized you can only put your input on every odd/even frame.
That wasn't a problem.... the problem was the jumping... I don't get it.
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Since this is the Japanese version 1.0 I'm going to quote something from the other TAS. Just to expand on N?K's point.
TASVideoAgent wrote:
Difference between JP and US
In fact, there are 3 japanese versions of this game.
In the first japanese version, there are only 8 levels and only one layout for each. Missing levels are 4 and 5 in the US version. Option, character select, item select and level select screens are also different. Bosses have different weapons. Mashing button are less permissive in the JP version. Other interesting difference is that, in the level 1, you have to defeat Katanal and Echigoya in the same place. So you don't have to quit the first area and you save a lot of time. Finally, 180° reverse roll is absent in the first JP version.
In order to respond at this lack of levels in japanese version, an second edition was published and called Tenchu: Shinobi Gensai. This version almost matches with US and PAL versions with a level editor directly offered by the game (you're not obligated to unlock it with a cheat code). There is also a supplementary short cutscene just after the end of the level 5 (Katoaka's Senpuku). Funny thing about the PAL version is that gives you kunai instead of shuriken and the 50 Hz makes the sequence breaking of the level 9 more difficult.
The first JP version seems to be less challenging and interresting to TAS, but may be Shinobi Gensai version will offer a good challenge because of the layouts are very well thinking (particular shorcuts are impossible). Furthermore, Sephyr0sS and Riskbreaker Y have chosen the US version for one reason : it seems to be the fastest version given the layouts. I really wanted to help them. That's why I choose the US version.
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I would vote yes to having a completed TAS which saves time in RTA so that it would also obsolete the previous one.
The reason I want to vote this way is it makes it more entertaining in a sense to complete it and doesn't drop the input and having to wait for it to complete which declines the entertainment.
Refraining from voting... until others talk about it.
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Bamahut wrote:
Happy 30th birthday to this old but still enjoyable game!
This version is 13 years old.
What a lucky number for this Tetris on the year of the 30th Anniversary for the Original Tetris.
Edit: apparently I missed a few words.
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Kurabupengin wrote:
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Kurabupengin, how did you become an editor?
Hum... Why are you asking?
look at your alias name on the left over there.
"Editor'
Anyways congrats on becoming an editor.
Doesn't this game take like less than 4 mins to complete?
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Kurabupengin wrote:
I'm not even in half of the stage!
Should I remind you he did it on the fly when he obsoleted your first stage? (Rhetorical)
He even pointed out that his was improvable when talking about pure optimization.
Anyways, if you're using vba make sure it's the latest version if not switch to bizhawk or lsnes.
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Try again shall we...
Link to video
xs is insane doing it again and again and ag-you get the picture.
What is this the third Part 1? Or fourth? Eh... whatever.
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