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noahkiq wrote:
Try not to be discouraged over your first TAS being suboptimal. Everyone starts somewhere. I'm sure given enough time and practice you can make a much more perfected run. :)
I second this. It was a rocky start for me as well. I'm going to be the opposition here and vote Meh, because there are times where the game play is interesting to watch...but I am not going to say that I believe this is optimal. There are many spots where I believe like EZGames69 where there are places to squeeze through, and I've seen slowing down used in places where it just doesn't seem to be the only option. Honestly, I think this would be an excellent TAS...if highly optimized. Please keep up the progress. Remember, the percentage of re-records says a lot about how much work was put into a TAS. Look at this: http://tasvideos.org/4536S.html (2870319 re-records).
I recently discovered that if you haven't reached a level of frustration with TASing any game, then you haven't done your due diligence. ---- SOYZA: Are you playing a game? NYMX: I'm not playing a game, I'm TASing. SOYZA: Oh...so its not a game...Its for real? ---- Anybody got a Quantum computer I can borrow for 20 minutes? Nevermind...eien's 64 core machine will do. :) ---- BOTing will be the end of all games. --NYMX
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Nice cut over your previous attempt. 434 from my calculation. I usually vote yes due to improvements, and this is no exception. Good job.
I recently discovered that if you haven't reached a level of frustration with TASing any game, then you haven't done your due diligence. ---- SOYZA: Are you playing a game? NYMX: I'm not playing a game, I'm TASing. SOYZA: Oh...so its not a game...Its for real? ---- Anybody got a Quantum computer I can borrow for 20 minutes? Nevermind...eien's 64 core machine will do. :) ---- BOTing will be the end of all games. --NYMX
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Is it me, or does this guy have no pants?
I recently discovered that if you haven't reached a level of frustration with TASing any game, then you haven't done your due diligence. ---- SOYZA: Are you playing a game? NYMX: I'm not playing a game, I'm TASing. SOYZA: Oh...so its not a game...Its for real? ---- Anybody got a Quantum computer I can borrow for 20 minutes? Nevermind...eien's 64 core machine will do. :) ---- BOTing will be the end of all games. --NYMX
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LOL Oh my goodness. Way to go in making this so optimized that you leave one piece at the end. Yes vote
I recently discovered that if you haven't reached a level of frustration with TASing any game, then you haven't done your due diligence. ---- SOYZA: Are you playing a game? NYMX: I'm not playing a game, I'm TASing. SOYZA: Oh...so its not a game...Its for real? ---- Anybody got a Quantum computer I can borrow for 20 minutes? Nevermind...eien's 64 core machine will do. :) ---- BOTing will be the end of all games. --NYMX
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Taechuk wrote:
i did a quick attempt at a sprint tas and beat this tas by 8 seconds.
Your approach makes more sense. Since you are building up on both sides, you have the option to get a tetris when a long piece is available. This prevents the delaying for RNG purposes. The low re-record count does say something for the effort put into this. My experiences...the more effort you put, you will eventually start seeing other possibilities and gain experience for future work.
I recently discovered that if you haven't reached a level of frustration with TASing any game, then you haven't done your due diligence. ---- SOYZA: Are you playing a game? NYMX: I'm not playing a game, I'm TASing. SOYZA: Oh...so its not a game...Its for real? ---- Anybody got a Quantum computer I can borrow for 20 minutes? Nevermind...eien's 64 core machine will do. :) ---- BOTing will be the end of all games. --NYMX
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Taechuk wrote:
oh yeah, also this movie starts from sram
I noticed this as well. The "Best Time" was already established, which led me to believe the same thing.
I recently discovered that if you haven't reached a level of frustration with TASing any game, then you haven't done your due diligence. ---- SOYZA: Are you playing a game? NYMX: I'm not playing a game, I'm TASing. SOYZA: Oh...so its not a game...Its for real? ---- Anybody got a Quantum computer I can borrow for 20 minutes? Nevermind...eien's 64 core machine will do. :) ---- BOTing will be the end of all games. --NYMX
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EZGames69 wrote:
since I dont know anything about this game in particular, it really looks like the inputs are not fast enough, it seems like you are spending a few frames before you start moving pieces to the left or right. is this intentional?
I had to watch this a few times to get the information I needed. I see your point EZ...this could be a delay in releasing of the piece, but as you say...I don't know the game either. But I also see that it could be RNG manipulation. The submission text doesn't really say anything either about this goal. If this is fastest completion, then it does looks fast. The piece drops are instantaneous, so stacking them isn't necessary; however, the build up of pieces beyond 4 layers seems to make it un-optimized. Its hard to say if the delay of dropping would be better than just placing a piece down that wasn't moving towards the goal. idk...because of the uncertainties and lack of submission text...I have to vote meh.
I recently discovered that if you haven't reached a level of frustration with TASing any game, then you haven't done your due diligence. ---- SOYZA: Are you playing a game? NYMX: I'm not playing a game, I'm TASing. SOYZA: Oh...so its not a game...Its for real? ---- Anybody got a Quantum computer I can borrow for 20 minutes? Nevermind...eien's 64 core machine will do. :) ---- BOTing will be the end of all games. --NYMX
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Loading ........ Ready Go!!!!! Wow, very entertaining. I just wonder if there was any trade offs in order to produce these crazy tricks. Needless to say... Yes...very Yes!
I recently discovered that if you haven't reached a level of frustration with TASing any game, then you haven't done your due diligence. ---- SOYZA: Are you playing a game? NYMX: I'm not playing a game, I'm TASing. SOYZA: Oh...so its not a game...Its for real? ---- Anybody got a Quantum computer I can borrow for 20 minutes? Nevermind...eien's 64 core machine will do. :) ---- BOTing will be the end of all games. --NYMX
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I grew up on this computer and I never heard of this game. Well, its start of slow and gets faster and faster...which turns in the the entertainment that I vote yes for. GG on the first C64 game TAS bro.
I recently discovered that if you haven't reached a level of frustration with TASing any game, then you haven't done your due diligence. ---- SOYZA: Are you playing a game? NYMX: I'm not playing a game, I'm TASing. SOYZA: Oh...so its not a game...Its for real? ---- Anybody got a Quantum computer I can borrow for 20 minutes? Nevermind...eien's 64 core machine will do. :) ---- BOTing will be the end of all games. --NYMX
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This effort doesn't seem to miss any optimizations, some places exist where you have to slow down...but its necessary to avoid the barrage of enemies. One thing that really bites about this games...it doesn't seem to be possible to skip the bonus time tally. :( Yes vote.
I recently discovered that if you haven't reached a level of frustration with TASing any game, then you haven't done your due diligence. ---- SOYZA: Are you playing a game? NYMX: I'm not playing a game, I'm TASing. SOYZA: Oh...so its not a game...Its for real? ---- Anybody got a Quantum computer I can borrow for 20 minutes? Nevermind...eien's 64 core machine will do. :) ---- BOTing will be the end of all games. --NYMX
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No! No! Oh my goodness NOOOO!! Did the game really say that? "The Ghost Witch of Netor Ran Away With Her Ghosts To Plan Her Next Wicked Scheme"???
I recently discovered that if you haven't reached a level of frustration with TASing any game, then you haven't done your due diligence. ---- SOYZA: Are you playing a game? NYMX: I'm not playing a game, I'm TASing. SOYZA: Oh...so its not a game...Its for real? ---- Anybody got a Quantum computer I can borrow for 20 minutes? Nevermind...eien's 64 core machine will do. :) ---- BOTing will be the end of all games. --NYMX
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Oh my gosh! I was a pacman fan, until I bought this game for the SNES. I never could figure this game out and wrote it off as being a bad game. AGDQ 2014 featured this game and classified it in their block as an "Awful Game Done Quick". This only confirmed to me that this game sucked. Well, if there was only some way an encode can be provided...I would love to see how this is really supposed to be played. Abstaining vote for the moment.
I recently discovered that if you haven't reached a level of frustration with TASing any game, then you haven't done your due diligence. ---- SOYZA: Are you playing a game? NYMX: I'm not playing a game, I'm TASing. SOYZA: Oh...so its not a game...Its for real? ---- Anybody got a Quantum computer I can borrow for 20 minutes? Nevermind...eien's 64 core machine will do. :) ---- BOTing will be the end of all games. --NYMX
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I would have to say that this any% version is my preferred one of the two you have submitted. From what I can see, looks pretty good. Yes vote.
I recently discovered that if you haven't reached a level of frustration with TASing any game, then you haven't done your due diligence. ---- SOYZA: Are you playing a game? NYMX: I'm not playing a game, I'm TASing. SOYZA: Oh...so its not a game...Its for real? ---- Anybody got a Quantum computer I can borrow for 20 minutes? Nevermind...eien's 64 core machine will do. :) ---- BOTing will be the end of all games. --NYMX
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I'm a little puzzled. Doesn't 100% here sound like trying to get all the coins in mario? If so, I like the any% much better. Abstaining vote.
I recently discovered that if you haven't reached a level of frustration with TASing any game, then you haven't done your due diligence. ---- SOYZA: Are you playing a game? NYMX: I'm not playing a game, I'm TASing. SOYZA: Oh...so its not a game...Its for real? ---- Anybody got a Quantum computer I can borrow for 20 minutes? Nevermind...eien's 64 core machine will do. :) ---- BOTing will be the end of all games. --NYMX
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Glad to see then encode up. Dang! I didn't expect this. I love how you skip certain areas. Yes vote.
I recently discovered that if you haven't reached a level of frustration with TASing any game, then you haven't done your due diligence. ---- SOYZA: Are you playing a game? NYMX: I'm not playing a game, I'm TASing. SOYZA: Oh...so its not a game...Its for real? ---- Anybody got a Quantum computer I can borrow for 20 minutes? Nevermind...eien's 64 core machine will do. :) ---- BOTing will be the end of all games. --NYMX
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There really isn't much to see here, it almost seems like watching an Arcade Machine boot up; however, I can certainly appreciate the knowledge behind making a TAS to trigger the end game credits. Leaning towards meh, but the technical pushes me to a Yes vote.
I recently discovered that if you haven't reached a level of frustration with TASing any game, then you haven't done your due diligence. ---- SOYZA: Are you playing a game? NYMX: I'm not playing a game, I'm TASing. SOYZA: Oh...so its not a game...Its for real? ---- Anybody got a Quantum computer I can borrow for 20 minutes? Nevermind...eien's 64 core machine will do. :) ---- BOTing will be the end of all games. --NYMX
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I have to say that this amused me a bit...with the parts of fighting. From what I can tell, the green enemy guys don't even get a chance to take a swing. It looks rather silly to just sit there and take a beating after threatening our hero not to go any further. LOL Yes vote.
I recently discovered that if you haven't reached a level of frustration with TASing any game, then you haven't done your due diligence. ---- SOYZA: Are you playing a game? NYMX: I'm not playing a game, I'm TASing. SOYZA: Oh...so its not a game...Its for real? ---- Anybody got a Quantum computer I can borrow for 20 minutes? Nevermind...eien's 64 core machine will do. :) ---- BOTing will be the end of all games. --NYMX
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I'm all about games where there is flexibility in different strats, and this one definitely captures my attention. The fact that you use 2 players makes it even more flexible with capabilities for completing faster. As some on this site have discerned, I'm a big fan of high rerecord counts. This doesn't always mean it is optimized, but it certain means you put the effort into it. In fact, this much re-recording shows and makes for a quick and entertaining TAS. It appears to be well done. Yes vote.
I recently discovered that if you haven't reached a level of frustration with TASing any game, then you haven't done your due diligence. ---- SOYZA: Are you playing a game? NYMX: I'm not playing a game, I'm TASing. SOYZA: Oh...so its not a game...Its for real? ---- Anybody got a Quantum computer I can borrow for 20 minutes? Nevermind...eien's 64 core machine will do. :) ---- BOTing will be the end of all games. --NYMX
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DrD2k9 wrote:
I never played Radar Rat Race. Isn't it basically a clone of Namco's Rally X?
Yes, you are correct.
I recently discovered that if you haven't reached a level of frustration with TASing any game, then you haven't done your due diligence. ---- SOYZA: Are you playing a game? NYMX: I'm not playing a game, I'm TASing. SOYZA: Oh...so its not a game...Its for real? ---- Anybody got a Quantum computer I can borrow for 20 minutes? Nevermind...eien's 64 core machine will do. :) ---- BOTing will be the end of all games. --NYMX
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Commodore 64 = Love Funny, I never remember seeing this game in any advertisements of my Compute's Gazette Magazine. When I saw the word "Rat" I immediately thought of "Radar Rat Race". Planning on doing a TAS of that soon? Yes vote.
I recently discovered that if you haven't reached a level of frustration with TASing any game, then you haven't done your due diligence. ---- SOYZA: Are you playing a game? NYMX: I'm not playing a game, I'm TASing. SOYZA: Oh...so its not a game...Its for real? ---- Anybody got a Quantum computer I can borrow for 20 minutes? Nevermind...eien's 64 core machine will do. :) ---- BOTing will be the end of all games. --NYMX
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I abstained on voting until now...because there weren't any votes and I would have been the first to comment. My first impression was that it seemed to run without any loss of time, but because I didn't know this game...I wasn't sure. The positive voting has supported my original thoughts and I'm along with it. One other thing I see that is a positive is the ratio of re-records to the full length of the movie. Roughly 25% is a very good effort for a TAS. Yes vote.
I recently discovered that if you haven't reached a level of frustration with TASing any game, then you haven't done your due diligence. ---- SOYZA: Are you playing a game? NYMX: I'm not playing a game, I'm TASing. SOYZA: Oh...so its not a game...Its for real? ---- Anybody got a Quantum computer I can borrow for 20 minutes? Nevermind...eien's 64 core machine will do. :) ---- BOTing will be the end of all games. --NYMX
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Spikestuff wrote:
Pulling references from [1596] NES Tetris "maximum score" by Acmlm in 03:11.78 and [2581] NES Tengen Tetris "30 lines" by MarbleousDave in 00:29.09 Now some people have already pointed out to you in Discord that this is sub-optimal.
I was about to make reference to this movie. Spike is right. First off, getting 1,2, or 3 lines is absolutely not the fastest way to rack up points. Second, you didn't stack the center up to the top so that you can land pieces even faster. Sorry for the rude welcome, but this type of submission is no different than watching a really good human run. No vote.
I recently discovered that if you haven't reached a level of frustration with TASing any game, then you haven't done your due diligence. ---- SOYZA: Are you playing a game? NYMX: I'm not playing a game, I'm TASing. SOYZA: Oh...so its not a game...Its for real? ---- Anybody got a Quantum computer I can borrow for 20 minutes? Nevermind...eien's 64 core machine will do. :) ---- BOTing will be the end of all games. --NYMX
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EZGames69 wrote:
The fact that there’s no way to make the screen move faster makes me feel like this run is extremely trivial. Maybe the bonus stages (one where balloons come out from tubes) could make this non trivial enough to be acceptable, but as far as being entertaining, it’s getting a no vote from me.
I'm with EZ. The autoscrollers are mostly boring, but that's just the game; however, the part that stood out to me was the bonus rounds. To me, entertainment would have been much higher if the ballons were collected as soon as they came out the tubes. In some cases, sitting around waiting for a balloon is not good enough when you could have "Charged" that tube in order to keep your speed to make it to another. I can see that not all cases could have been perfect, but some seemed to be sloppy at collection. Are the balloons on a timer? If so...then collecting the last one is the most important. If they are not, then minimizing the time they come out the tubes is crucial. Entertainment: Meh vote Optimization: Meh vote.
I recently discovered that if you haven't reached a level of frustration with TASing any game, then you haven't done your due diligence. ---- SOYZA: Are you playing a game? NYMX: I'm not playing a game, I'm TASing. SOYZA: Oh...so its not a game...Its for real? ---- Anybody got a Quantum computer I can borrow for 20 minutes? Nevermind...eien's 64 core machine will do. :) ---- BOTing will be the end of all games. --NYMX
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Dang...will it ever end? 16 frames is amazing for such optimization previously submitted. Great job...and very impressive work on the auto scrollers. To 99 and beyond! Yes vote.
I recently discovered that if you haven't reached a level of frustration with TASing any game, then you haven't done your due diligence. ---- SOYZA: Are you playing a game? NYMX: I'm not playing a game, I'm TASing. SOYZA: Oh...so its not a game...Its for real? ---- Anybody got a Quantum computer I can borrow for 20 minutes? Nevermind...eien's 64 core machine will do. :) ---- BOTing will be the end of all games. --NYMX
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Ah Those Commodore sounds and graphics. Brings me back home. Yes Vote.
I recently discovered that if you haven't reached a level of frustration with TASing any game, then you haven't done your due diligence. ---- SOYZA: Are you playing a game? NYMX: I'm not playing a game, I'm TASing. SOYZA: Oh...so its not a game...Its for real? ---- Anybody got a Quantum computer I can borrow for 20 minutes? Nevermind...eien's 64 core machine will do. :) ---- BOTing will be the end of all games. --NYMX
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