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Submission #2887: GGheysJr's Genesis Sonic the Hedgehog 3 "Competition Mode" in 02:40.17

Console: Sega Genesis
Game name: Sonic the Hedgehog 3
Game version: USA
ROM filename: Sonic the Hedgehog 3 (U) [!].bin
Branch: Competition Mode
Emulator: (unknown)
Movie length: 02:40.17
FrameCount: 9610
Re-record count: 12501
Author's real name: GGJr
Author's nickname: GGheysJr
Submitter: GGG
Submitted at: 2010-10-23 00:51:07
Text last edited at: 2010-10-28 21:15:59
Text last edited by: FractalFusion
Download: Download (1080 bytes)
Status: decision: rejected
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Author's comments and explanations:

TAS Sonic the Hedgehog 3 "Competition" by GGheysJr

I made a movie competition with vs knuckles. sonic. The controls to the 2 to have more entertainment
Emulator used: Gens 11b + S3KCamhack + SolidityViewer + (partial)HitboxDisplay + LUA HUD for Genesis Sonic games
  • Controller 1: 6 button
  • Controller 2: 6 button
  • Allow Up+Down: Yes
  • Sound: Enabled, 44100KhZ Stereo, YM2612 High Quality enabled

Game Objetives

  • Aims for fastest possible time.
  • One player controller 2 players
  • Manipulates luck.
  • Genre: Platform.

Comments: In this game you have to go 5 levels. The explain each
  • Azure Lake: at this level is difficult, but with 2 players is more fun
  • Balloon Park: I used a very good decision that I found out by the video NEXT
  • Chrome Gadget: It was time ungran
  • Desert Palace, Endless Mine: cost pass in those levels, but not

Time table:
Stages This time Player
Azure Lake 17.31 Knuckles
Azure Lake 17,74 Sonic
Balloon Park 04.38 Knuckles
Balloon Park 06.00 Sonic
Chrome Gadget 22.36 Knuckles
Chrome Gadget 28.38 Sonic
Desert Palace 23.46 Knuckles
Desert Palace 24,17 Sonic
Endless Mine 30.86 Knuckles
Endless Mine 36.90 Sonic

Suggest Screenshots: frame 5167

FractalFusion: Judging.

FractalFusion: First of all, I liked how both Sonic and Knuckles were used in this movie. It seems to me a rather interesting concept, one which could be entertaining.

However, I would like to analyze "Aims for fastest time" with "have more entertainment", which appear to conflict with each other:

Aims for fastest time

Yes, you say "Aims for fastest time". But everyone knows that this movie does not care to aim for fastest time. In order to aim for fastest time properly, it is necessary to do research. For example, http://tasvideos.org/2169S.html has times for Sonic which are lower than those here for both Sonic and Knuckles, without considering the stage glitches. One must actively seek to beat those times, not just play.

Now even when aiming for fastest time, it may be possible to fit in something entertaining. However, I think this game mode is so short that entertainment and fastest time conflict each other.


If you are going for entertainment, why does Sonic stop and do nothing in two stages? Certainly, it's not something I would call entertaining. I'd prefer mostly that Sonic and Knuckles are going together, side-by-side as if one person was controlling both of them at the same time. It doesn't always have to be that way, and it's very hard to do, but that to me would be most impressive. Also, it can still be fast, just not fastest time.

In conclusion, I'm rejecting the run. However, if you did a run that focused on entertainment, I'd say it is good to be accepted. If it weren't for the two stages where Sonic did nothing, I could have accepted this run.

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