Posted: 4/17/2014 6:23 PM
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Post subject: Duke Nukem 3D
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Dimon12321
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I was interested in Duke Nukem for a long time, but then I found out that Duke Nukem 3D was realised for Genesis, only in Brazil! I'm not sure that somebody is still interested in this port. I made a TAS of the 1st map (from 9) on Piece of Cake difficulty. EDIT: The movie is deleted because a new improve is done! I can't say the game is good for play (Zero Tolerance is better), I explained all problems in the video, but it is TASible. The question to interested or pro people: It is known that in most cases TAS should be done on the hardest difficulty, but is it advisable to TAS this game on it?? There will be so many enemies, they'll do more damage, they'll be fast (especially blow-up drons)! I just won't manage to run past them! Generally the game will transform into shoot'em up and TAS will become playthrough. I ask this question because of the specificity of this game. Thanks and enjoy =)
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Posted: 4/17/2014 6:30 PM
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Well, IMHO, with zero experience this game, playing it on the hardest difficulty, especially in FPS, are perfect to showcase the superhuman abilities that a speedrunner can't do, and also remarking the point of the TASes.
Posted: 4/18/2014 5:49 PM
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Guga wrote:
Well, IMHO, with zero experience this game, playing it on the hardest difficulty, especially in FPS, are perfect to showcase the superhuman abilities that a speedrunner can't do, and also remarking the point of the TASes.
Yeah, thanks for the advice! I think this will be correct: EDIT: The movie is deleted because a new improve is done!
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Posted: 9/6/2014 1:50 PM
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Here I start my new TAS on Duke Nukem 3D! My previous submission, done in 24:12.95, was rejected because it wasn't optimized and not all the knowledge was used! Now I use frame advance, my previous TAS as a rough notebook and edit it to see if I made sth wrong (wrong way or unnecessary switch turn)! Here is a WIP of the first map! Everything is OK?? With the help of frame advance I'm running and strafing at the same time to increase my speed! In the giant room with yellow door, switch and 2 teleports I took boots to walk in the lava on the 8th map. I didn't turn the switch on the way to the yellow card (it just closes the door to a room with the teleport). 37 seconds improved (I don't know when exactly the input ends in my previous TAS because I didn't use the frame advance)!
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Posted: 9/6/2014 1:55 PM
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You can use TAS Movie Editor to observe your input files, splice, copypaste them, and even edit the presses. http://sourceforge.net/projects/tas-editor/ It only doesn't let you view the results on fly.
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Posted: 9/6/2014 5:46 PM
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feos wrote:
You can use TAS Movie Editor to observe your input files, splice, copypaste them, and even edit the presses. http://sourceforge.net/projects/tas-editor/ It only doesn't let you view the results on fly.
Thanks, I use it. I recommended it to Archanfel during his Judge Dredd TAS preview if you remember. I mean, does anyone see any improvement?
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Posted: 9/6/2014 6:11 PM
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MUCH better work, Dimon! Using frame advance makes a world of difference, huh? :D At this rate, I could easily see you getting this run down to 21:00 (or maybe even less). Keep it up!
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Posted: 9/6/2014 8:59 PM
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ars4326 wrote:
MUCH better work, Dimon! Using frame advance makes a world of difference, huh? :D At this rate, I could easily see you getting this run down to 21:00 (or maybe even less). Keep it up!
Yes, the game eats genesis' hardware as well as Zero Tolerance, i.e. spends 3-6 frames on rendering and gives a frame for input so making turns and shots (action duration) are the count of this input. About run-strafe, I overpass ~1/5 more of distance for every 2,6 seconds, so I improve at least 25 seconds if I've passed a map in 2 mins. EDIT: for every 2,4 sec.
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Posted: 9/10/2014 3:32 PM
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Second map is ready! It was more difficult than I expected: I did about 5 AI manipulation to keep my health in normal condition because I didn't take the medkit! Also I changed my route a little. I have already improved 01:01.50 comparing to my old TAS! All comments will be written in my submission! This is my last WIP. Next WIPs will be encoded and posted in WIP thread!
TASing is like making a film: only the best takes are shown in the final movie.