This topic is for the purpose of discussing #6503: Juarez's Genesis Doom Troopers: Mutant Chronicles in 06:44.25

Apologies for being picky about this but what does doing 2 players add to the gameplay that 1 player wouldn’t do? Gameplay seems to be identical to when I first attempted this awhile back. Also one thing I learned when doing the game is to never shoot when you’re on the ground, because you start to slow down when you do that, I noticed in the first level you shot an enemy with the 2nd player and immediately the screen started to slow down. The other thing is why was this on gens? I can understand using gens for Sunset Riders because for whatever reason, the game on bizhawk wouldnt let me play as 2 players, but here I dont really see a reason for it. I mostly have these questions because you left the submission text almost empty. Use that area to explain the run as much as you think is needed.

EZGames69, Why 2 player mode? Because there are situations when a lot of enemies so player 1 will stick around to pass on and 2 players is much more interesting to watch anyway for me! Why should I use Bizhawk? I just like working at Gens! Where is your attempt awhile back? I want see it!

My attempt was nothing more than just seeing how the game worked. I never got past the first level because I wasn’t interested in continuing it. However I do know that shooting on the ground causes the player to slow down, so shooting after jumping would be the more optimized way. Bizhawk is more accurate than gens and features TAStudio, which is probably the best tool for 2player tases.

If you would make topic about this game, or if you would make any research, you would probably didn't miss some well known shortcuts. From top of my head: 1) Mercury first part there is hidden room. (2:08 fall down) I'm not sure is it faster or not. 2) Mercury second part at first electro door on the left side, you can climb higher (straight up to 2:35 time), also IIRC you can skip more after. 3) Cybertox second part you may climb higher at right side (5:45). Regarding 2p choice: I think you also can kill boss faster with 2p, but I'm not sure. Nice bosses rng, well done.

If you would make topic about this game, or if you would make any research, you would probably didn't miss some well known shortcuts.

The topic is here: http://tasvideos.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=16488

r57shell, My mistake. These 3 tricks allowed to cut about 11 seconds! Awesome! I'll make TAS with new tricks! What is rng?

also IIRC you can skip more after.

Checked that part. It's second electric door, you may skip some more. Idk is it faster.

What is rng?

RNG is Random Number Generator.

I've saved 91 frames of this game from the first 3 levels alone: http://tasvideos.org/userfiles/info/57837876123405795 stuff that was improved on was better jumping optimization, it's best to press b about 2 frames after pressing c as your jump wont slow down as much. I've also found that you slowed down a few times to avoid enemies when you could very easily shoot them, such as around frame 2320. also when jumping to grab a ledge, you want to jump for the shortest amount of time you can so you dont waste time trying to fall. at the end of level 3, you duck for a bit to avoid an enemy's projectiles, but I found that if you delay the screen a bit, you can make it so you hit that enemy before you can shoot him again. this wip syncs all the way to the end, the only differences are what I changed in level 1-3, everything else is Juarez's inputs, which work on bizhawk.

om, nom, nom... 'twas dry