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I have a question: Can we vote in our own tas? I think that shouldn't be allowed cause the sm64 tas was done by 15 guys lol and they would obviously vote in their own tas.
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Marcokarty wrote:
I have a question: Can we vote in our own tas?
As long as you truly believe it deserves it, and you only do so once.
Marcokarty wrote:
I think that shouldn't be allowed cause the sm64 tas was done by 15 guys lol and they would obviously vote in their own tas.
That might explain why it won its award and is doing as well as it is doing.
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Super Mario 64 is the #1 most speedran game on https://www.speedrun.com/games by a substantial margin (202 active players, compared to second place Celeste's 157 active players) so it's not surprising to me that the most speedran game also has the most widely enjoyed TAS. No need to invoke conspiracies when there's a reasonable mundane explanation.
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Patashu wrote:
a reasonable mundane explanation.
I find it reasonable to assume that people will vote for their own TAS.
With how few votes we're seeing for awards, a TAS with several authors will probably have some weighting in its favor.
With the amount of active members we have, we should be seeing at least a thousand votes casts (considering you can vote for multiple entries). I hate to say it, but voting on awards doesn't seem to be very popular.
If we say the average amount of votes per person is 3, then less than 60 people voted.
Patashu wrote:
so it's not surprising to me that the most speedran game also has the most widely enjoyed TAS
The most widely enjoyed TASes are on: http://tasvideos.org/Movies-Popular.html
As of this writing, the second most popular movie on the site is in 4th place, the third most popular is in 8th place, and the fourth most popular is in 9th place.
Meanwhile the fifth most popular is in 2nd place, the twelfth most popular is in 7th place, and the fourteenth most popular is in 1st.
There's clearly some disparity between what people rate movies as and what people are voting on. More people should come and vote! If you know people who haven't voted ask them to do so.
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Now an actionable argument I can get behind! I've nagged a few folks to vote.
EDIT: It looks like since I did that SM64's share has actually gone *up*, haha.
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From the 15 TASers from the 120 stars publication, only six have accounts, five of which are able to vote, and most of them have not been active recently. The authors themselves aren't the reason why that particular TAS is doing well.
Nach wrote:
If we say the average amount of votes per person is 3, then less than 60 people voted.
As of present, 74 individuals have voted (with 188 votes, making an average of 2.54 votes per person). For TASer, 54 individuals have voted (146 votes/2.70 average).
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<Masterjun> I'm just a guy arranging bits in a sequence which could potentially amuse other people looking at these bits
<adelikat> In Oregon Trail, I sacrificed my own family to save time. In Star trek, I killed helpless comrades in escape pods to save time. Here, I kill my allies to save time. I think I need help.
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[quote Marcokarty]I have a question: Can we vote in our own tas? I think that shouldn't be allowed cause the sm64 tas was done by 15 guys lol and they would obviously vote in their own tas.[/quote]
As Nach explained, it is allowed, and one is free to vote (once) for any subset of eligible entries in the poll list that one sees fit. Though in response to ''and they would obviously vote in their own tas'', unless some other maybe more justified logic is referred to by this comment as being an obvious reason for this, I find it disappointing to see that apparently the logic of ''(just) voting for one's own entry/entries mostly or solely for the reason that it is one's own rather than by others'' is a more common mindset to come by with polls like this, because it increases the degree to which I doubt that this poll or these kinds of polls are functioning as well as wished by (at least parts of) TASVideos staff for its intended purpose.
[quote Nach]I find it reasonable to assume that people will vote for their own TAS.
With how few votes we're seeing for awards, a TAS with several authors will probably have some weighting in its favor.
With the amount of active members we have, we should be seeing at least a thousand votes casts (considering you can vote for multiple entries). I hate to say it, but voting on awards doesn't seem to be very popular.
If we say the average amount of votes per person is 3, then less than 60 people voted. [/quote]
Yes, I agree with that view. But to be honest, I personally prefer the ''law of (gathered) reason'' over the ''law of majority (in opinion/stance)'' when it comes to approaching the right judgement (on any given topic). However, I also do think that people's opinions aren't to be dismissed or neglected, but gathering them can support a judgement by reason on a given topic. On the flip side I think ruling decisions out via popular vote can also work out by the degree to which it is true that every individual voter applies an approach by reason for providing their votes, though relying on such a condition may put up a risk.
collect, analyse, categorise.
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Don't want to be taking up so much space adding to posts, but might be worth mentioning and letting others know for what games 1) already some TAS work has been done (ordered in decreasing amount, relative to a game completion) by me and 2) I am (in decreasing order) planning/considering to TAS them. Those would majorly be SNES games (if not, it will be indicated in the list) I'm focusing on.
1) Spanky's Quest; On the Ball/Cameltry; Musya; Super R-Type; Plok; Sutte Hakkun; The Wizard of Oz; Battletoads Doubledragon; Super Ghouls'n Ghosts; Firepower 2000; Brain Lord; Warios Woods; Super Turrican; The Humans.
2) Secret Command (SEGA); Star Force (NES); Hyperzone; Aladdin; R-Type 3; Power Blade 2 (NES); Super Turrican 2; First Samurai.
(last updated: 18.03.2018)
2nd best tas of the decade, not bad! I'm glad people enjoyed my football/soccer tas! Thanks everyone and congrats to the winners! Maybe I'll do more tases in future.
TAS of the Decade 201X (2010-2019) 
That might explain why it won its award and is doing as well as it is doing.
