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This game would probably be one of the most interessting game to TAS. Even in real play it can be done quickly, so i imagine that frame by frame would make it quite amazing. You play as Dante, half man/demon, son of Sparda the legendary dark knight. He is what you may call "The coolest demon slayer there is". He is equiped with is trusty handguns, Ebony and Ivory, and a huge sword. Many nice moves can be done in this game, side steps, side rolls, back flips, double jumps, wall jumps and he can even WALK on walls. The first game had an amazing storyline, the second was more based on the moves and the third has a little of both. Without hesitating, i would TAS this but of couse, TASing PS2 games is not yet to come. But when it does, this game is first on my list! BTW, if you are a fan this game, you may like the movie Versus, the heroe is basically the same as Dante. :)
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Have you seen Psychochilds Devil May Cry 3 speedrun as Vergil? I think thats the closest we'll get to se a TAS of that game. If you have seen the run, then you'll know what Im talking about :) If you havent, grab it right thuurr: http://speeddemosarchive.com/DevilMayCry3.html#SEHardVergil
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I enjoyed this movie in which hands firmly gripping a shaft lead to balls deep in multiple holes.
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AngerFist wrote:
Have you seen Psychochilds Devil May Cry 3 speedrun as Vergil? I think thats the closest we'll get to se a TAS of that game. If you have seen the run, then you'll know what Im talking about :) If you havent, grab it right thuurr: http://speeddemosarchive.com/DevilMayCry3.html#SEHardVergil
Truly amazing! That was the best reply i could get, we could close this and i wouldnt give a damn! I just can't stop watching it now. Thanks man!
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You should go check out the God of War run at SDA, I personally prefered that... my no.1 choice for a PS2 TAS
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xoinx wrote:
You should go check out the God of War run at SDA, I personally prefered that... my no.1 choice for a PS2 TAS
I never tried it, but i find it looks like a very cool game. I maybe off topic but MMX8 would also be an awesome game to TAS
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Devil May Cry,this game is very cool. I've seen a full "S" movie for stege 19 of Devil May Cry 3.amazing......
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Six year bump :3 I'm currently playing through DMC3:SE and there's a pretty nifty trick I figured out with the Gunslinger style. With Ebony & Ivory and the Gunslinger style selected, you can alternate between Square and Circle to shoot at an almost uncapped speed. I don't have a copy of PCSX2 with rerecording, so I don't know the specifics. This also works with the Shotgun but there is a noticeable delay before being able to alternate from fireworks to a regular shot (Two shots must be fired during Fireworks before being able to cancel into a regular shot). Interestingly, going into devil mode seems to remove that speed limit on Ebony & Ivory when alternating shots (I'm really excellent at tapping and could never notice a cap, unlike with regular dante). It also cuts down the delay on alternating Shotgun shots (Only one Fireworks shot before cancelling in devil mode versus two in regular mode). The other three ranged weapons don't benefit nearly as much as Ebony & Ivory and the Shotgun do however. The shot alternating can also be done with charged shots to really pack a punch. The shotgun with alternating shots deals really high dps on some bosses and should be the best strategy for at least a few of them after getting them stunned (completely destroys Hell Vangaurd, Angi and Rudra, Heart of Leviathan and the "Jester"). Gunslinger can definitely give Trickster some competition for the style choice in a TAS now.
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How does the shotgun-cancelling trick compare to jump-cancelled Killer Bees? Obviously that's only available once you get Beowulf, but it's usually the go-to DPS strategy in unassisted runs. Anyway, I always assumed that a DMC3 TAS would basically be one long style showcase; sure, it'd get through the game quickly, but it would definitely sacrifice time for entertainment, and it wouldn't use the same strategy on every boss. Ideally it'd find some way to make their AI degenerate so it could "humiliate" each boss in turn (e.g. the loop against Geryon), though I don't know if that's necessarily feasible for all bosses.
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Nah, jump cancelled killer bees is definitely better than shot alternating with the shotgun. Switch cancelling the shotgun shots beats shot alternating the shotgun too. Regular shots do ≥ 2x damage of Fireworks shots (which comprise of half the shots in shot alternating). TAS switch cancelling the shotgun should give four shots per second and frees up Trickster to be used. I retract what I said about Gunslinger's longevity in a TAS. At the start of a TAS run, the dps from shot alternating Ebony & Ivory in mission 1 - 2 definitely makes sense, but not from mission 3 onward. Whenever there's a good rerecording build for PCSX2, I think I'll give it a shot.
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Personally I'd like to see a TAS demonstrate multiple styles for more variety. Royal Guard looks impressive to those unfamiliar with the game for example, although this idea probably falls under the realm of speed/entertainment tradeoffs.
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Royal Guard should definitely be shown off, but I can't imagine making it the centerpiece of very many fights because it basically just renders you invincible (in TAS conditions) and gives you the occasional huge-damage attack. It gets worse if we assume that the run starts from a naked Dante, because leveling Royal Guard (to get the really big damage numbers) takes a long time. Incidentally, I'm pretty sure that with level 2 Trickster and Air Hike you can stay airborne indefinitely against Virgil 1. So that could be another "stupid boss trick" to do.
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Well, here's an incomplete playlist of a japanese runner TASing it: http://www.nicovideo.jp/mylist/35757062 Goes up to Mission 14. Needs a Nico account, but it's pretty swanky. It's very much a "spends time for entertainment value" sort of run, but that's not a bad thing.
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Derakon wrote:
Incidentally, I'm pretty sure that with level 2 Trickster and Air Hike you can stay airborne indefinitely against Virgil 1. So that could be another "stupid boss trick" to do.
Isn't that true with literally every enemy and boss that you can jump cancel over? I'd love to see stuff inspired by Brea and other great True Style Tournament players. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zeA7wWSLlVw
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FreezerBurns wrote:
Well, here's an incomplete playlist of a japanese runner TASing it: http://www.nicovideo.jp/mylist/35757062 Goes up to Mission 14. Needs a Nico account, but it's pretty swanky. It's very much a "spends time for entertainment value" sort of run, but that's not a bad thing.
I watched some of this and it's entertaining ^^
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Mission 15's been added, so he's clearly still working on it. It's great stuff. There isn't really a good "screenshot" moment, but I'd give an iconic moment of Vergil 1 saying "Don't get so cocky" as Dante stands on the head of a statue you normally can't get on and does a little taunt dance.
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And the TAS is done. Go take a looksee over here: http://www.nicovideo.jp/mylist/35757062
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Wow this is definitely something I want to see! The taser must have endured a lot of desyncs and whatnot to finally manage to complete his run. Wish someone could make a quality encode of his run.
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Guys I come from the DidyKnogRacist communite, and you are all wrong, tihs is the run of the mileniun and everyone who says otherwise dosnt know any bater! I found this run vary ease to masturbate too!!!! Don't fuck with me, I know this game so that mean I'm always right!StupedfackincommunityTASVideoz!!!!!!
Arc wrote:
I enjoyed this movie in which hands firmly gripping a shaft lead to balls deep in multiple holes.
natt wrote:
I don't want to get involved in this discussion, but as a point of fact C# is literally the first goddamn thing on that fucking page you linked did you even fucking read it
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Mayor Haggar and Cody are such nice people for the community. Metro City's hospitals reached an all time new record of incoming patients due to their great efforts :P
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