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#32902584480113206 - NG1 pacifisting WIP136v4
NG1_pacifist_WIP136v4-compact.fm3 (89.3kB fm3 movie [NES])
Uploaded 2016-08-12 18:13:40 by MESHUGGAH (344 files)
For NES Ninja Gaiden (127 files)
In 11:21.64 [40966 frames], 183938 rerecords)
8827 views, 503 downloads
Continuation of previous WIP136v3, 5 frames faster boss fight by using the pillar instead of catching the fireball to recover and attack.

Remaining tests: half-pixel starts on 5-2, 5-3 with different slot sub x's.

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#299:
By Scumtron On 2016-08-12 18:46:44
I was just looking at the bird boost in 5-1 (24309) and it looks like an extra blank frame in that jump lines up the coming de-spawn so 3 back-presses work instead of 5, but that makes the bird much harder (impossible?) to avoid later. Is this something you've already ruled out?

Also:

Quoting MESHUGGAH:
I've tried to incorporate it into pacifist route with:
  • doing the RTA trick at 5-1 start
  • boost from knife bitch's knife instead of the birdy boost

Is it possible to use the RTA trick and still boost off the bird later?

#301:
By MESHUGGAH On 2016-08-12 19:39:32 In response to #299
Quoting Scumtron:
I was just looking at the bird boost in 5-1 (24309) and it looks like an extra blank frame in that jump lines up the coming de-spawn so 3 back-presses work instead of 5, but that makes the bird much harder (impossible?) to avoid later. Is this something you've already ruled out?
Wow, I didn't checked that earlier, but it's actually 7 frames faster to do that (because this way the bird is farther on the right side). To be sure, you meant this: blank frame before next despawn and only 3 back press, at least that's what I did now.

Quoting Scumtron:
Is it possible to use the RTA trick and still boost off the bird later?
Yes, and it was 5 frames faster but the 5-2 final knife bitch was bad. If we are lucky with both improvements (5+7 frames), maybe this way the knife bitch can be avoided, gonna test it tomorrow.

Btw, thanks for your "continous" input regarding ideas, because most of the time you are right :D

edit: using the RTA trick and boosting off the bird, the 7 frame improvment can't be done because it requires 4 back presses to despawn the pillar guy. I uploaded my route with the RTA trick that desyncs at 5-2 knife bitch.

#302:
By Scumtron On 2016-08-12 20:19:19 In response to #301
Quoting MESHUGGAH:
To be sure, you meant this: blank frame before next despawn and only 3 back press, at least that's what I did now.
Yeah, 2 blank frames anywhere after the block 78 de-spawn and before the block 98 de-spawn should do the trick, though I supposed at least 1 has to come before the bird-boost so Ryu has room to turn around before jumping over the big gap, as in the current WIP.

Quoting MESHUGGAH Btw, thanks for your "continous" input regarding ideas, because most of the time you are right :D:
It would be nice to have time for more input, but I'm focusing on getting any% ready for submission (got it down to 39093 now, but still testing just one more thing to be sure.)

Oh, just caught your edit before posting. There should be a way to get the same result with the new positioning. Maybe a (non-interrupt) back press (-2px) instead of 2 blank frames (-3px). Haven't checked yet.

Edit: I went ahead and replayed 5-1 and it turned out okay. userfile here


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