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diggidoyo wrote:
After studying the screen again, I *might* be able to call him on top of the lower ice block, jump out into the space where the upper ice block was, and coil my way to the next the screen.
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I hoped I had found a time saver :(
edit: tested on emulator and it's actually even slower, with an airdash you can't open the door, you have to move to the door's direction and your speed drops to walking speed which makes you lose a few frames
edit2: this is super weird, you don't actually retain top speed, you just retain the shadow trail without having a boost O_o but if you walk it disappears
edit3: correction: it's possible to open the door with an airdash, and it makes it ultimately equal to ground dash, but you need perfect Y subpixel position which is somewhere between 747 and 748 (for a normally placed door, some are higher I think)
and to think I got that on DS first try… lol
shadows glitch vid: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4e3sFkORsI
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@edit2: I don't see how that is any faster than just dashing as soon as you regain control.
isn't the dash's speed progressive? I mean, you don't instantly hit top speed when dashing (I think?) so keeping it while going through the door would be faster
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I was just continuing my hard mode save on DS (still have to finish it) and found out you can double hit really quickly with HX's jump slash (not airdash slash), was that known and if not would it have been useful? you can double hit by pressing the opposing direction you're facing after the slash (maybe with quick left-right even more hits are possible?)
edit: wtf I just did it without moving the opposing direction O_o
looks to me like, the airslash is in itself a 2-hit combo, upper part and lower part, if you have an object above you and start the slash when you're below it then still gain height to be adjacent to it it double hits, first the upper then the lower part of the slash
edit2: another thing (still testing on DS) it seems like doors reset your speed to walking speed if you enter them with a ground dash, but if you do an airdash (HX) it looks like your dash speed is kept and you can even re-airdash after passing the door, was this abused?
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diggidoyo wrote:
ALAKTORN wrote:
can't help but think the strategy is improvable
Not so sure about this one, unless you see something specific. I manually timed it and it's only a second off of my world record time trial for this level. The slower areas are only the spots where having more weapons would be slightly faster. In fact, the first screen is actually 2 frames faster thanks to new tactic that jumps off the last ice block for extra height.
it's just that all the ice blocks destruction looks slow, not very TAS-like
at 0:58 if you called Rush sooner it would've landed on the floor above?
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sgrunt wrote:
60 fps or not isn't relevant. We generally ask that the version of the game most familiar to the audience (largely North American viewers) be used unless there are significant glitches present in another version which significantly aid gameplay.
once, I asked if it was bad my Mario vs DK2 TAS was using the EU ROM, and encoders on IRC told me that it was fine because it was a handheld, and it didn't have the PAL/NTSC issue (IIRC)
what was that about?
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thanks for quoting that scrimpeh, I missed it
run looked good, but I noticed you walk a few times during the sandstorm, jumping isn't always faster?
also that sounds awesome about Chill Man, abuse it as much as possible, looking for ward to it
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if you don't know you can backup the savestates by simply moving them to a different folder, that gives you way to infinite savestates, very useful
and what's your idea? wouldn't hurt to share with others
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^I think you could've used the climbing wheel weapon thing more
does Mega Man get instant top speed when pressing right while falling? because I see you press right against walls, but if it doesn't bring you istantly at top speed pressing right just at the right time would be faster
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Weatherton wrote:
what is preventing getting even more stars from other levels? And, didn't he only get one of the Princess Secret Slide stars?
about the other PSS star, off the top of my head I'd say you can't get enough height to take it without jumping
other stars, I haven't checked nor know any off the top of my head
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I'm just saying there could be a way to manipulate the RNG that we don't know yet, often when things are purposefully slowed down, new discoveries are made that make those slow downs go away
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jesus, you seriously love TASing
a lot of the strategy looked like it made no sense, but that's probably me not understanding it on the first watch, the run was entertaining enough and it's an improvement so I vote yes
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^I've tried the same thing in Time Attack using Carrie, but it didn't seem to work
cool that it works with 2P, it gains so little height and it takes so much time that I don't think it will be faster though…
maybe with TAS you could somehow chain in some jumps, gaining a lot more height?
