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Since 2nd January if you believe the smv itself.
For me I don't care if he starts prioritizing this over SMR since I'd rather see a SM any% than SMR any%. But I'd still recomend him to do SMR first so that it does not become like his RBO which now has become so obsolete both route wise and trick wise that he is thinking about redoing it completely.
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Forgot to comment your WIP in my last post Saturn. Truly marvelous work as soon as I saw the smv, no as soon as I read JXQ's comment about it I cursed my laziness. I had the idea that this could have been faster/cooler when making that room in my v2 SM:I run but the lazy side of me said that someone would have found it earlier if it was faster. So that sucks (and rocks in your WIP :)
I'm not so sure it is perfect though, your OMBR (when going to the elevator) was as fast as in my SM:I WIP and moozooh's low% project page says that he saved 2 frames in OMBR over his low% testrun in the NBMB while I only saved 1. Crateria mainstreet while going to OTES I also have the feeling might be improvable by 1 frame (or more) with the help of better subpix position at the first door.
Also I think you succeeded very well in entertaining at Ridley and when falling down OTES.
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A question for Saturn. Are you still working without the memorywatcher? I heard some time ago that you did not use it for your last Any% atempt. If so, why not?
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Fabian wrote:
So adolf, what you're saying is Saturn is humble and encouraging EXCEPT when he's condescending and disencouraging?
I'm saying that he is encouraging (though perhaps not very humble) as long as he does not fell threatened. Meaning, if someone makes something pretty impressive he uses all sorts of kind words but if someone makes something incredibly impressive he tries to in any way possible to make people still think he is the greatest.
I'm not protecting this behavior.
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Now after all this I just feel stupid. My idol of Tool-Assisted Speedrunning turned out to be like this. And I so happen to hate arrogant people... Sorry Saturn but I've just lost a lot of respect towards you.
That's why I don't judge people as TASers by how they act but what they create. And as a TASer of Super Metroid Saturn is really fantastic, amongst the best. (judging from his RBO and Redesgin run)
Kriole wrote:
People who are better at something should be humble and encouraging towards those who are less talented. Not condescending and disencouraging.
I'd say that he is actually, I for example have received nothing but praise from him. It seems like he acts very positive to everyone making TASes of SM (or I guess other games to he has touched) except the ones he sees as threats to the throne as the very best SM TASer. moozooh has always had to take a lot of crap from him and if you check his response to every one of tacos ceres improvements before this one he praises him as a genius while he now disregard it as "well I did (almost) that but faster".
Also the second I saw taco's 49:15 run I saw this whole thing unravel just like this, Saturn had already made it unavoidable and then he went and made it even worse...
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moozooh wrote:
Hey guys, just dropped to tell you I just made a perfect Ceres.
Note that I made it in just five minutes! And I swear to god, it's abso-fucking-lutely perfect!
I think you could have jumped a little higher from the elevator in the beginning, also maybe save a frame by getting hit in the stairs at a more optimal frame.
I also somehow found it hilarious that you did the "turbo two buttons on alternating frames" in the intro by hand.
moozooh wrote:
The rerecord count got broken after I cut the Ceres bit from the sub-30 minutes any% run I have here since 1997.
Just wanted to clear up the confusion, that's all.
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Saturn wrote:
which was the reason I suddenly planned to start a new SM-TAS in this days
That sound interesting, what kind where you thinking about?
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do you consider to work on a full run now? I would certainly be interested to see how well you could do in Zebes as well.
He said he was going to do a RBO a any% (realtime oriented) or a 100% run.
Saturn wrote:
Anyway, I hope everybody is happy now that Ceres got fully cracked. ;-)
Not that I ever really really cared about it but yeah I guess it is nice that everyone now can shut up about ceres forever :) (or until something very unexpected happens)
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after 1 year of work
You don't think that's a little over exaggerated? AIAFK he signed up here after I did and I got here in summer. Also I doubt that he has been working for hours every day...
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Taco wrote:
Thanks to timer randomness, I was able to get 49'17. Here.
Seriously someone should make a collage of all quotes from "someone" saying that 49:15 was unconditionally the best possible escape timer surrounding a picture of 49:17.
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This is awesome, especially considering that I was perhaps the first one after Taco to see it :)
Saw it only minutes (seconds?) after it was created. (over msn)
I really hope he uses his seemingly extreme patience and creates a full run with this extreme quality.
The trick to release forward for one frame to get higher momentum thus making the turnaround jump without screwing up the last room is certainly weird...
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Make a gigantic detailed map of the game, mark every item with shiny stickers, use different colored lines running to each item to mark at which point you can get them (what major item/s you need). After that start numbering all items from 1 to whatever the number of items in the game is in the most logical way.
That would after just weeks (?) of work give you a half decent route. After that one needs to consider maybe skipping items for when you are more powered up/when it fits better with what items you should get next and then there is sequence breaks and all that. Then make a test run and give the masses a chance to comment on the route and come up with possible improvements then do the full run.
Yeah... shouldn't be too hard.
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I think a 100% route for redesign is something to be best created by a group of people over the course of months if not years.
Or by someone with really really really much time and patience.
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A 100% route for this hack is probably nothing one comes up with just like that, it took up untill ~half a year ago to find the optimal route for regular SM 100% run (and there is not even proof that it is optimal, it is just likely) and this hack is way bigger and has much more than 100 items.
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Also he lost ~20 frames in ceres by not optimizing it.
Anyway how is you progress on the RBO? (or any one else's progress on any other run for that matter)
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So sidehopping is faster than backwalking? I haven't looked in this thread since ever so I don't know much about that. Anyway, if it is faster then how much and why has it not been discovered until now? (to me testing diferent traveling methods first is the obvious thing to do before making a TAS of a game like this but maybe it is more complicated than that)
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In longer backwalking/sidestepping segments I definetely think it is worth sacrificing 6 frames for higher watchabillity, loosing 30 seconds in a 1:30+ run is nothing if the difference is big. (which IMO it is)
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Nice WIP, fells like you could have used more PB's in gauntlet though to save time, I know you need a bunch of them later but for example you could get 4 of them at the beetoms before the pre dachora room which would certainly take less time than you'd save at gauntlet.
As hero I to am a little uncertain about your energy, hopefully you know what you are doing...
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Does any one have the possibility to give me a link to the soundmod snes9x upthorn made? His link does not work anymore and I would very much like to have it.
