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jimsfriend, Here's my route: First time in Donut Plains: Donut Plains 1b -> Donut Secret 1a, Donut Ghost House b -> Donut Ghost House a -> Donut Plains 3 etc Second time: Donut Plains 1a -> Donut Plains 2b -> Green Switch Palace -> Donut Plains 2a -> Donut Secret 1b -> Secret Ghost House etc I'm now at the secret ghost house. Hope this clears things up.
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JXQ wrote:
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I didn't see a noteblock
I could not get that to work, and that water level was enough of a pain. As far as your ideas from your picture goes, I tried the first corner (under the screen), and it doesn't boost you for whatever reason. The second does, but the way the cape spins, it's up to luck whether or not you'll hit the key block earlier or not. So it may save a frame. I did think of one trick to try though, in Star World 4, using big swoops to get higher before kicking the shell at the feather block. Might hit the block 2 or 3 frames earlier, and affect luck differently (hopefully better) from there on out. I didn't think of it until tonight, but I tried it briefly and couldn't get it to work. I'm sure it can be done somehow, though. To flagitious, or whoever else it may apply to: if you obsolete my run, even if only by 1 frame, then I have no problems with that. Just thought I'd make that known. It's the way of a Faber! Anyway, thanks everyone for all the no votes!
Just thought you all might be interested to know that I'm doing this level right now for the 96 exit run, and I was able to boost Mario a frame using the first corner (under the screen). This marks the first time ever I've been able to do something JXQ hasn't, which means the most likely explanation is that my frame counter is broken. I'll report back if I can gain a frame from the corner later on too.
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Here's something I just thought of. I was under the impression that a game's popularity was also a determining factor. Is this true? If it is, are there any other determining factors not mentioned in the first post of this thread? If it isn't, it is my opinion that mine and JXQ's 120 exit SDW run is the most qualified SMW/SDW movie for having a star.
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Great, thanks. Since Super Mario World is a game we've recently discussed, I'll start with a quick comparison between the two published runs, based on the guidelines/aims. VIPer7's 96 exit run: - Audiovisually attractive. I don't really know what this means. Is it safe to assume it wouldn't affect this decision, since it's the same game? - Keeps the pace and doesn't exhaust the audience with length. I've read opinions several times that this movie starts to feel repetitve after a while, because many levels are simply flown through, with some enemy bopping to help with entertainment. Arguably, after a certain point, this will start to feel old. Also, arguably, this movie is on the longish side of things. Other than this point, I have no complaints or comments. - Demonstrates level of playing skill that appeals to audience who have never seen the game before (and thus don't know what to consider "normal" and what is extraordinary). This run is excellent in this regard. I don't think anyone will object with this statement. - Demonstrates level of playing skill that pleases even the timeattack experts in general and those knowledgeful at the game. This was certainly true when the movie was submitted and published. It is certainly not true today. JXQ's 11 exit movie: - Audiovisually attractive. Nothing is different here. If I'm wrong please tell me. - Keeps the pace and doesn't exhaust the audience with length. I think this point is the most debatable. It certainly doesn't exhaust the audience with length. Does it "keep the pace"? I'm not sure. As you all may have read, I enjoy full runs more than any% runs in general, and this run is a good example why. I feel that this run doesn't properly show off this game or its potential. Except a very cool use of a shell to avoid landing in water, the first three levels are nothing special (to clarify, I'm now comparing with what a full run of the game would show off in terms of awesome things Mario does). The Castle is good (only thanks to the great P-switch jump), followed by two uneventful levels (the palette screwup could arguably be counted as something cool). The Ghost house is great, Star World 1 is great (at least to new people, which is what's important), Star World 2+3 are uneventful and Star World 4 is good. Bowser's Castle is uneventful. My point is, the beginning of this movie is, like the full run, very slow/uneventful. The shorter a movie is, the more important it becomes to it not containing slow stretches like I feel this one does. Everyone, please feel free to chime in here with comments. - Demonstrates level of playing skill that appeals to audience who have never seen the game before (and thus don't know what to consider "normal" and what is extraordinary). This run is even more excellent than VIPer7's full run (examples: Shell jump in water, P-switch jump, flight through stairs, better use of cape in Ghost House (grabbing P-switch) and Star World 4 (grabbing shells and getting feather)). However, the difference here (between VIPer7's and JXQ's) isn't super significant, very cool stuff happens in VIPer7's run as well and an inexperienced watcher will no doubt enjoy them both. Still, this one has better quality. - Demonstrates level of playing skill that pleases even the timeattack experts in general and those knowledgeful at the game. This is extremely true. This is the best Super Mario World run there is in this regard. Does anyone think there's anything relevant I've forgotten to mention? Looking at this point by point, I think it comes down to which points you feel are most important. Edit: My personal opinion is that JXQ's movie edges out VIPer7's in every regard except "keeping the pace", and even there VIPer7's movie has recieved some criticism. I'm curious to hear what others have to say.
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Nice initiative Bisqwit. I hope you will give some consideration to my request/wish of you participating in the discussion, perhaps both in general and in the case of specific movies/disagreements. After all, you're the only person who matters in this discussion and without you we can talk ourselves to death without knowing if it's making any difference.
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I did enjoy watching this movie, but only from a previous-game-owner perspective, not from a TAS perspective I'm afraid. I never got through the game as a kid, so I enjoyed seeing the final levels. I don't want to discourage you, but I'm afraid the quality of play isn't high enough for a publishable TAS. More planning and, more importantly, more precise movement would be required to make this as fast as possible. Pretty much no TASes nowadays are done like regular playthroughs with rerecording used when the author makes a mistake. While I'm sure this is not what you have done throughout the whole game either, the various small (and bigger) mistakes makes the movie look sloppy. I hope you try again if you want to, with more planning (which potions do I need, can I sequence break this level in some way, how do I solve this area as fast as possible etc), and using frame advance for tricky parts, or all parts.
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We're on the same page Enhasa. I've said it before, I'm pretty sure I'm in the minority on the whole any% vs full issue. I've seen people say they're done with a discussion but pick it up again more than once before. It doesn't exactly surprise me when it happens anymore. But yes I did catch that :)
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Everyone, Regarding the star debate, I've been hoping to have an in-depth discussion thread with Bisqwit about what he's looking for in star runs for a while now. Hopefully that discussion could lead to discussing some specific cases where there seem to be disagreements (for example S&K3 and this movie). FWIW I think it's just fine as it is, I don't mind the choices he makes. I think it'd be cool to be able to discuss it with him though. About this movie, while I too think it deserves a star, if flagitious and VIPer7's movie did not get one, I don't see this movie getting one. This run isn't much better than theirs, which is not a bash at JXQ (as he knows), it's just that the previous version was fantastic. As I've said in #nesvideos once or twice though, I prefer full runs to shorter runs in general, so for me personally I don't really mind the longer one having the star, if only one of the movies can have one. Phil, "Fabian: The guy that voted NO doesn't need to justify. He voted NO. That's simple as this." That's your opinion and I expressed mine (that it's a good thing to explain etc, what I wrote in my earlier post). That's it. "Oh and more seriously, since you love to bash at people when you think they are wrong, I think the guy did a good choice to not post." Wouldn't this show some serious lack of confidence, all other things aside? "It's really difficult to defend an opinion with people like you." I take that as a compliment, even though it wasn't intended as one. Don't feel like you have to respond btw, there's not much to respond to.
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Phil, It sounds like you misunderstood me. Here's what I was trying to say: When your opinion differs from what everyone else up to that point (be it 10, 25 or 50 people) have said/voted/expressed/etc, I think it's a good thing to tell everyone why you disagreed with them, hopefully creating some debate and maybe even convincing a few people to change their opinion. Also please note that I said that this is what "I think" "in general", I did not suggest it should be something you "must do" according to forum rules. Here are some additional points and thoughts for you to consider: - Your analogy is probably the worst one used on an internet forum since the dawn of time, and that's saying alot. As an interesting sidenote, as a general rule, if no one ever ever used analogies when they were making an argument, I think everyone (including the arguer) would benefit from this. The main reason for this is because when people say how horrible the analogy is, the arguer starts arguing about the analogy instead of the actual debate. - "Imo, voting yes just because the majority voted yes means that you really lack of confidence in yourself." While this is possibly (but not necessarily) true, it's not relevant at all. People don't vote yes because the majority voted yes, people vote yes because they think the movie deserves to be published, it's not about peer pressure at all, ever. I really think you will agree with this statement if you think about it. However, what is both relevant and shows a lack of confidence, is when your opinion differs from the (let's say) 50 people who have voted before you, but you don't want to/you can't write to explain why, because you prefer the anonymity. - "The fact that the movie was published so quickly doesn't let the chance to everyone to vote before its publication." This just makes it even more important to speak up when you don't agree with how the voting is going. If no one protests and explains why, there will be no debate, and the movie will get published without delay. I don't understand what you're trying to say with this, since it's an argument agreeing with me. - From these quotes, "In conclusion, I don't see any rule that someone must post a message when he voted." and "2nd. It doesn't mean that we must post. There's a difference between please and must." I get the feeling my post deeply offended you in some way and pissed you off. I don't understand your sudden hostility at all, and I think it's completely uncalled for. I think you need to chill the hell out and actually read what I write, instead of interpreting it any way you want. Hope this helps.
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Sure no problem :)
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It doesn't stand for anything in particular, it's just my name. We were discussing potential new names for TASes, and this is what we came up with.
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It's just a new alternative word for TAS. Exact same thing.
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Whoever it was it happened just now, like 20 minutes ago. As a general rule, when the opinion is so unanimous (is that the word? when everyone agree?), I think you should explain yourself and justify your meh/no-vote. I second the opinion that you should do a 100% run next, although half jokingly :)
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jimsfriend wrote:
I will have to try my best to re beat it, but I don't think that is going to happen; this is looking pretty perfect.
Don't worry, it will always be beatable. Maybe JXQ overlooked something, or maybe it just isn't possible, but since everyone seems in the criticizing mood I will say something (sort of) valid. Very undetailed picture. The first one is under the screen, the second one is while you are throwing the shell around and killing that stupid fish. Also, I didn't see a noteblock :( I was happy to see the Bowser quilt trick.
It's funny because I watched it again just 10 minutes ago and thought of this too. Only the second one though.
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Bisqwit, I think it's safe to say that most people who try to be funny fail.
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Gorling wrote:
JXQ wrote:
I'll sign that petition. +1 vote for "Fabians"!
I'm in. +1 more vote
Thanks man but it's already done and decided so there's no need to. Keep on rockin'
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Also, I have a quick followup question: I glanced over the submission text and didn't fully understand that "8/5" thing. Could you explain it in detail please, thanks.
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I voted no. I really expected more from you JXQ. This is just a useless video, the "improvement" isn't noticeable, the whole run looks exactly like the old video, and I think they (flagitious and VIPer7) made better stylistic choices. You're better than this, I don't understand why you'd submit a run identical to the existing one. In addition, I have several other small complaints I won't discuss here, for example the submission text is almost literally 400 pages long and just filled with technical mumbo jumbo about things that's not even noticeable. I hope you choose a better project next.
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Guys, Since there still seems to be some confusion here, xebra was super super nice enough to put together some information on it. I see Bag already linked to it but just remember that you can always find the informational pages in my signature, at least for now.
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Zurreco, Are you still on that? Please.
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Is that like a clue to the riddle or maybe a second part of some kind? This looks really intriguing (+spelling), but I don't know the answer yet.
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pirate, In all fairness, you did contribute some of the dumbest stuff.
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Phil, Is that some kind of riddle?
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Guys, Anything else you want to discuss? Or maybe ask about? I'm open to pretty much anything here.
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JXQ, "It's probably better to avoid this scenario." I couldn't have said this better myself no matter how hard I'd have tried.
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