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Posted: 7/13/2005 2:13 AM
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Fabian
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About a week ago I was bored and started redoing this without hitting chucks, taking the upper route in level 1 as well, and taking one more coin at the end of the level over the water. After that though, I was out of energy and none of us feel like taking this up right now. Most of the energy I spent with this run was figuring out a fun way to do Misty Star World. I'm happy to hear you did it nicely and would love to see your progress if you do redo this. Please keep us updated.
Zoey Ridin' High <Fabian_> I prett much never drunk
Posted: 6/29/2005 5:17 AM
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Same here Angerfist, but seriously keep downloading it. It truly is awesome, the best console speedrun I've seen.
Zoey Ridin' High <Fabian_> I prett much never drunk
Posted: 6/29/2005 3:04 AM
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Yes, that does sound like the fastest route. Are you making any progress with this run? Also, I quickly tried using Return after defeating the demon king to skip the Prince's monologue, but unfortunately the trigger for removing the lightning wall which seperates Shion from the spaceship seems to be entering the door which returns you to the wall. After returning to the inn, the wall was still there. I also tried to figure out ways to damage Shion near the lightning wall, to possibly glitch him past it, which would mean you could skip the entire demon king part. Unfortunately I came up short, but it might be something to keep in mind somewhere else in the game. The problem is that in the places I can think of where this trick possibly could be utilized (passing the seal when entering ice world without the bracelet, and taking damage to "double jump" when you fetch one of the gems in ice castle (can't remember which one it is off the top of my head)), there are no monsters avaliable. Just throwing some ideas out. Long post with no substance, sorry about that :) Good luck, keep us posted!
Zoey Ridin' High <Fabian_> I prett much never drunk
Posted: 6/21/2005 10:23 AM
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After some more experimentation my new guess for fastest route is this: Don't take the heart in the Lilipad temple. After getting the trident, buy potion on your way up to the inn in Purapril. (Or maybe buy it in Lilipad, if that's quicker), save, and go get the secret heart in castle between Alsedo and Purapril. Then get the Pygmy Sword, followed by heart + return magic in Poseidon's Shrine, use return back to inn, go get Pygmy Armor, return to inn, save, and cross the desert. This path would require taking one hit less in the boss battle in Lilipad temple, since you need the elixir in the desert. If it's faster to take the heart in the temple than the secret one later, this wouldn't be an issue. I haven't tested which one actually is faster, so you'll need to check that out.
Zoey Ridin' High <Fabian_> I prett much never drunk
Posted: 6/19/2005 2:11 PM
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I'll try to test some of these ideas out in the next couple of days, it should be easy to get a good idea of which routes are the quickest without playing absolutely perfect. I also realized now that if you have medicine and the ocarina and try to buy a third item (potion), I have no idea what happens. I'll try that out too, but my guess is you're unable to buy the third item, which would mean you're forced to find two additional hearts instead of one.
Zoey Ridin' High <Fabian_> I prett much never drunk
Posted: 6/19/2005 7:32 AM
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I had no idea.
Zoey Ridin' High <Fabian_> I prett much never drunk
Posted: 6/19/2005 6:38 AM
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Yes that is one terrible flaw in this movie right there.
Zoey Ridin' High <Fabian_> I prett much never drunk
Posted: 6/17/2005 8:53 PM
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No, you were right, the quality of the armor is irrelevant. However, I managed to reach the Sun door of the pyramid without the Oasis Boots after I fetched another heart container! So with six hearts it's doable, I reached the door with 3/4 left of the last heart. This should require some route planning. You've obviously thought more about that than I have, but the options I see is to either get the heart container (and possibly the return magic) in Poseidon's Shrine after fetching the Pygmy Sword, and take the heart found in the secret door in the castle (?) between Alsedo and Purapril (or instead of this one, the one in the Lilipad temple if that turns out to be quicker) OR If you skip Poseidon's Shrine altogether (which I'm guessing is the fastest route, but I'm not sure how much time Return saves you later in the game), you can take the heart in Gragg & Glagg's temple instead of the one in the Shrine. Another possibilty is to buy Medicine before defeating Myconid, but I'm not sure if you can have two different potions at the same time. If it's possible, my best guess is that the fastest route would be this: When in Alsedo first time, buy Medicine. In the Lilipad temple you might want to get the heart there, to me this sounds about as fast as getting the secret one between Alsedo and Purapril. At some point you also have to buy Potion, of course.
Zoey Ridin' High <Fabian_> I prett much never drunk
Posted: 6/17/2005 8:15 PM
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To be honest I'm not sure, but that was what I thought when I played this game on console many years ago. I might try it out some more later tonight.
Zoey Ridin' High <Fabian_> I prett much never drunk
Posted: 6/17/2005 1:49 AM
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It looks very solid so far, good work. I experimented a bit with the desert, and I was surprised about how much easier it was than I remembered. I had 5 heart containers (also took the one in Poseidon's Shrine), a potion, the elixir and with leather armor I reached the very last scorpion (after having fetched the key) before the door when my health ran out, and I played full speed without very much optimization. It still looks tough though without getting better armor. If that would be enough, you could skip everything from when you get the pygmy sword until you get oasis boots, although you wouldn't get Return. I guess that still would be a huge time save all in all.
Zoey Ridin' High <Fabian_> I prett much never drunk
Posted: 6/15/2005 8:39 PM
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Fabian
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I started doing a speedrun of this game for fun about the same time you started this topic, I quickly gave up though when I couldn't get that snake to appear where I wanted him. I was a bit faster than you until then, but I guess that was intentional on your part to kill the snake as fast as possible. Anyway, I can't really see how you'd be able to get to the pyramid without the boots, although I've certainly thought about it. If you pick up lots of heart containers, potions and the elixir, maybe, but that sounds more time consuming anyway. I hope you can do it though. Also, this is the only speedrun being made that I'm really interested in, and I'd really love to see your progress. Please reconsider not sharing the file until it's finished. If you want, you could always send it to me privately. Good luck!
Zoey Ridin' High <Fabian_> I prett much never drunk
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