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I don't think you guys should get Flavio. Yes, it's pretty funny, but I think we could just save that for the 100% run if it ever happens. If he really does lag some cutscenes, it seems like it would just be a waste of time.
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got4n wrote:
it isn't possible to finish game, because getting to bowser pipe is impossible
I was talking about a minimal A-press TAS. Beating the game while pressing A as few times as possible. There are a lot of stars you can get while only pressing A once. I'm really interested in how low it can be.
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Yeah. I was really surprised when I saw it. Is anyone currently working on a Minimal A press TAS of this game? Obviously, you have to press the A button sometimes to get 70 stars, but I wonder how optimal it could be?
I tried this on a real console, and I have a little over 30 stars while never pressing the A button more than once per level. Most of the time I didn't even press it at all. I think it would make a great TAS.
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Immediate yes vote from me. I've always disliked the GB pokemon TASes because of all the glitches. The fact that this shows more of the game adds a lot more to the entertainment value of it.
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So how much, if any, have N64 emulators improved? Is a 100% TAS even feasible at this point? Sorry for the question but I lost track of this thread a while back.
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Wow! I didn't know it would actually be possible to only get two encounters! even though you have to wait at the intro for ~200 frames is it still a lot faster or just a little bit faster?
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The Japanese version does have some minor glitches that the North American version doesn't have. I'm not sure exactly what they are (I've never played the JP version before) but it could be worth checking out just to see if any other possible improvements could be made exclusively on the JP version.
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mkdasher wrote:
Stevmay09 wrote:
Wow! Can you post the file so i can see it? What was the in-game time at?
I will later. In-game time (according to hall of fame debut) is 1:43:5x (can't remember last digit, but I erased the savestates already so I would have to replay the full movie to check it).
I've been testing with seeds, and trying to figure out how to get that seed that would give me only 2 encounters until Pewter City.
I found that the seed I want is 0000A97D. This way I get 4AD331AF on the first RNG address, and 00004AD3 on 2nd RNG address (00004AD3 is the value i want to get just 2 encounters). I tried bruteforce searching, but yeah, internal loadstating and savestating with lua doesn't work properly. (I tried it, found the seed, but then desynced when replaying the movie).
I won't be able to figure out how that seed is being generated, so my only idea was doing a bruteforce search. So I would like to know if there's any other way to do it. If there isn't, I guess I'll stick with 3-4 wild encounters in the end, but I want to keep trying this.
EDIT: vbm file of the test run: http://dehacked.2y.net/microstorage.php/info/532642281/PokemonFireRed%20-%20mkdasher.vbm
Emulator: VBA-RR v23.6 svn461
ROM: 1636 - Pokemon - Fire Red Version (U)
Real time clock enabled, and Flash 128k.
As I said, the test run has obvious mistakes, such as buying x sp atk and not using them (I didn't know I wouldnt need them until I finish the run).
That's pretty good! I give props to you because i tried to make a TAS of this game as well. I stopped because i couldn't figure out how to manipulate seeds to get the pokemon I wanted. (I'm also not very familiar with scripts). I can't wait to see the improved version! How much time do you think you could save?
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mkdasher wrote:
I just finished the any% run.
Final time was 1:47:46, 15405 frames slower than japanese version. (japanese version saves a lot due to text). I lost some frames in the Elite 4 because I was doing it very quickly and this is a test run anyway.
I used some strategies that are surely faster than the ones used in the japanese version, for example using rattata in stead of digglett for dig and cut, saving a few critical hits due to better IV, and more.
Now I'd like to start again to see how much I can improve it. I know a few improvements that I can do. These are some of them:
- I want only 2 encounters until Pewter City, and those 2 encounters must happen on Route 1 (second time), or the second one on Route 2. I found there's only one seed that would give you that possibility (as I said, its 00004AD3). However since I have no idea how to manipulate the only chance I have to find it is doing some bruteforce search. I did a search test this morning and after 10000 seeds I couldn't find the seed I want. There's 1/65536 chances of finding that seed so I don't know if I'll be lucky with this. If I can't do it, I'll try getting 3 wild encounters until Pewter City (current test run has 4 w.e.)
- I don't need x sp.atk, torrent can do the job. I can lower my HP after battling Gary at Silph C.O. and mantain my HP low enough until the end. Just have to make sure I have enough HP for Gary's Arcanine (last battle) since it'll use extremespeed, but that's not hard.
- After doing the test run, I know how many items i'll need during the run. Buying 11 items in some cases will save time to buy as soon as possible. In other cases it'll save time to just buy enough items, saving frames in item menu selection.
Wow! Can you post the file so i can see it? What was the in-game time at?
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I wouldn't mind having a slightly less optimal TAS using superswims. I realize how hard it is to optimize and i also agree that any TAS at all is better than none as long as it's somewhat optimal. I don't care if it could be one or two minutes faster when fully optimized.
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ColdStardust wrote:
Actually, I plan on doing this game, myself, but I will have to test with all 3 pokemon, Bulbasaur, Squirtle, AND Charmander, meaning I have to make 3 separate TASes, and upload/submit the fastest of the three.
Squirtle is much faster. Don't even bother with Charmander or Bulbasaur.
