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just tested and by skipping the spider power up you get two power ups in level 2 instead of one.
your run is about 15 frames slower to the rope since the small hops messed up your timing on the enemies causing you to wait a bit between jumps. also I'm not sure if you slow down for the few frames you're on the ground or not but if you do the small hops would be slower then the large ones I do. also I think I'm a little bit faster killing the bears then you, but I end up being 200 frames faster at the end of the level due to getting myself hit a lot. I manage to skip the significant hit stun most of the time by going up when I get hit, although I mess up a few times in my run, and the speed that you go at while being hit seems to be about the same as walking. so getting hit hardly wastes any time and saves about 12 frames for each box you lose. I noticed that getting hit by a fireball in level 2 takes out about half your health so if possible getting hit by it would almost surely save time.
are you having trouble watching this run too? if not I would suggest using my video as a starting point, and either take the run from level 2 or improve upon my run.
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I was thinking of doing a run on this game now that I'm done with bonk's revenge, there were also a lot of other games I was considering though. I don't remember any items that make you charge your power faster but I havn't played this game in a long time.
I thought it would be faster to get hit by the bears a ton and have almost no health left but I'm not sure. also it seems you go slightly faster in the air, not just a small boost at the start. I think power up items will be helpful in the future, but killing the spider for it is clearly not worth it.
anyways I think I'm going to do an improvement to the first level at least and let you decide what to do with it. good luck with this. I would really like to see a run of this game.
http://www.sendspace.com/file/k20gmm do what you want with this.
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I'm not planing on working on a full run of this game any time soon. although I was working on a run through nido mainly to show off the item duplication glitch, but I never finished it. I don't remember that much of what my strategy would be for the rest of the game, but pretty much what you say is true. I think you should be able to get away with just rudo and rolf for the army eyes, although you might need amy. I found out that you can manipulate luck by having the menu open while stopped. I should also mention that the angle you approach chests (and similar things) some times matters and can save you about 16 frames.
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unfortunately I don't really know whats causing the rerecord count to reset. I started to think that it had to do with the reset bug, but after a few tests I couldn't get it to happen. Yeah I noticed the new version but havn't tested it out yet. I'm wondering if you can even record a soft reset anymore because the bug was the only way to reset the game in 137.
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I forgot to mention that I'll probably need help hex editing out the extra frames when I finish this run.
and I think I figured out how to avoid resets. if you start recording while in freeze frame and then load a save state with out the frame advancing it will put a reset on the frame of the save state.
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the WIP in this thread desyncs if you clear the sram data. so I just wondering if it would even be accepted if somebody decided to finish this run from the WIP.
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absolutely incredible. though I couldn't understand what was going on most of the time. I think this should definitely obsolete the old run if just because theirs already a SDA run that's ~an hour faster.
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I haven't tried the newest version yet. I assume that simply unmapping the reset keys will fix it though as it seems to only happen when I'm starting/stopping recording. (although it doesn't seem to me like I'm pressing ctrl+r with out pressing ctrl+shift+r) interestingly enough ctrl+r does nothing when playing the game and only affects the way it plays back. I also don't think this problem will bother me that much anymore as I figured out you can just rerecord over a few frames by the reset.
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I still cannot play this file back in the latest mednafen build. As soon as mednafen opens it resets and playback is stopped.
Any way to resolve this?
I don't know why you would be having trouble with the video resetting and stopping as it works fine for me, but if you're using lmednafen be sure you have the movie and rom files in the same directory as I had trouble with the dragonegg movie because of this.
also I think someone needs to teach me to hexedit, there's a small strategy change in 1-4 that would save me about 200 frames. and I don't want to have to redo the rest of the game just for that.
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finished round 4. and round 5 is definitly not worth skipping (did it in about 8000 frames with only a few save states and no slow down) I'm not entirely sure of I should skip round 6 or not, its looking like getting 50 smilies in round 5 would take quite a while, but round 6 would probably also take awhile.
http://rapidshare.com/files/226597579/bonksrevenge.mcm.html
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well I finished round three, but had 4 or 5 reset desyncs on the way, so the new version obviously didn't fix the problem entirely.
early tests are telling me that skipping round 4 and 6 will probably be optimal, so I'll probably have to redo round 3. I think I'm starting to lose my motivation due mainly to not knowing whether or not to skip rounds.
http://rapidshare.com/files/225058730/bonksrevenge.mcm.html
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this games been desyncing quite a bit, sometimes the game flat out resets out of the blue. kinda bugging me. also after I finished optimizing 1-2 the extra frames at the end of the movie randomly disappeared, and then magically reappeared awhile later.
anyway heres my next set of WIPs:http://rapidshare.com/files/223866290/bonks_revenge_TAS.rar.html
one is an optimized round 1, the other is through 2-2 (which looks awesome)
I'm not sure if I should be getting 50 smilies in round 2 or not, I'm also not sure if getting a big meet in 2-2 would save enough time in 2-3 to be worth it.
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nah you can't, you don't bounce off flowers like that in bonks revenge. bouncing off walls gives you a slight boost of speed and keep it by spinning, but its only about as fast as having meat power. theirs a small improvement in 1-2 that I'll probably go back to fix but it probably won't save more then 30 frames.
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I've been working on a run of bonks revenge for the last few days after my phantasy star II run died. I finished round 1 with 50 smilies and decided it wasn't worth it. so I went back and optimized some stuff and avoided the smilies, I finished 2-1 so far.
anyway I don't know a good place to upload .mcm files so I'll just upload it to rapid share for now.
http://rapidshare.com/files/223445070/bonks_revenge_TAS.rar.html
the rar contains both versions (bonksrevenge.mcm for no smilies copybonksrevenge.mcm for 50 smilies.)
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I don't think I have any saves their where nei has a weapon.
also while it might be useful to have nei for the army eyes. I think performing the trick would waste a lot of time.
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my planing on buying items was mainly taken from zareons run. at one point I accidentally gave an item to the wrong person and had to edit the gmv in notepad. this might be why my rerecords count glitched out on me XD.
as for the item dupe glitch, you need to have 2 pages in your inventory, therefore you need at least 9 items in your inventory. to perform the glitch you select the item you want to clone, go to the "next" option of the last page of your inventory, and press B and C at the same time. and then give it to the person you want to have it. this will take the bottom item of the person "giving" the duped item's inventory and put it at the end of the person receiving the item's inventory, and change that item into the duped item. I have enough extra money after selling all of rolf and neis stuff to buy 8 antidotes before getting the cannon.
I really want to know what happens if you beat nei first with nei and no one else alive (probably just lose but it would be interesting if this was a way of getting a ghost party)
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sorry I didn't realize you needed to be logged in to download from their. I uploaded it to rapidshare.
http://rapidshare.com/files/222245459/PHANTASY_STAR_2.gmv.html
I'm tempted to restart this run now that I thought of item duping the dynamites but it would take a lot of time and work and I don't think anybody cares about it.
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god I'm dumb, I just realized today why he didn't go into arima. so I doubt now that I'll be able to get past the army eyes since I can't get rudo. I think you can probably do with out shir as I also just found out that theirs an item duplication glitch so you could just duplicate the cannon 2-3 times and have enough money for music and the escapipes and telepipes. so you could probably avoid zema.
edit: woops forgot to post a link to my WIP http://www.soniccenter.org/forum/index.php?topic=4237.msg46300#msg46300
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I am using windows. using lets mednafen and the emulator in your link.
I can get the games to play just fine, I even managed to record and play my own short movie (although I think it was in using the default movie file, btw one of the texts I read said use shift+r to record but its actually ctrl+shift+r). it didn't crash, all that pressing shift+p did was reset the lag frame counter.
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well I think PS IV is a bit beyond my ability to TAS and plan, and I thought someone else was still working on it. I might do some stuff early on just for fun though once I'm done with this.
