GlideN64 (or Glide64mk2).
Why would you think Corey is going through this in the first place? Jabo is not "the least of all evils" anymore. Maybe the version of GLideN64 we're using right now is not as accurate as the one that's just been released, but it's definitely more accurate than Jabo. And easier to encode at the resolutions we want. And open source.
I'm saying that that SOME of them are not willing to learn newer tools, they use savestate, frame-advance and Virtual Pad and leave it at that. They never go into learning lua or TAStudio/debuggers/trace-loggers. Then there are tools that don't exist yet (Output Log, setting game logic in intiutive ways, automating optimization). And they don't provide ideas on how to improve existing tools or on creating new tools, because they assume the tools they use can't be better or replaced.
for the record, a mostly optimal current-route TAS does exits for OOT Any%, it was just made in bizhawk and thus its use of the GIM trick is an "emulator glitch" rather than a feature of the VC version. but it's the same.
All I said is that there are glitches that unassisted any% runners aren't using because they are too difficult. The one I mentioned is one. Mido skip is another.
I think it does make sense that you'd need to defeat Ganon, since Ganon is basically the boss of the "final dungeon", and the point of MST/all dungeons is that you get to see all the dungeons and all the bosses from the dungeons, right?
Ah yeah sorry, I probably should have been more clear about it, but what I meant by ''reaching the credits such that the frame that carries the last input(s) is minimized'' was that the final time for the TAS in this case would be determined as this last frame that has inputs, whereas ''reaching the credits in as few frames as possible'' would mean that the final TAS time would be determined as the last frame before (or maybe the 1st frame part of) the credits start, which generally can be different (but could also depend on how one defines the beginning of the credits of a game). For example, if some inputs trigger the final attack on the final boss in this case (and if there is no further inputs past this point), so that the game automatically executes the remaining actions that lead into the credits, then the ''frame of last input'' timing would result in the frame in which the inputs trigger this final attack, but the ''fastest credits'' timing would result in a final time possibly strictly after that (and provided the credits would always keep going in a fixed speed without any variance caused by lag frames or anything anymore, one could choose any fixed frame part of the credits as reference for that kind of timing).
i hope someone musters the will to make the new any%
Is there any good reason to ban RBA in MST? If you take a look at 100%, it is allowed to use RBA, as long as you still get every item legitimately. So why not allow it in MST as well, as long as you still get all the stones and medallions legitimately by beating the dungeons?
I run MM and am planning on making an any% TAS (no promises).
I wonder if it would be faster now to do Jabu as adult.
Was the necessity of resets the sole reason for using Mupen?
No, I used Mupen for 2 main reasons: - Bizhawk still has desyncs, at least, from my experience with it, so I must always keep checking regularly if the TAS syncs. - Mupen runs the game so much faster than Bizhawk on my computer. So it's much faster and less painful to check for desyncs. With the playback speed set to the maximum (6400%), Bizhawk only runs the game at 80 FPS (60 is the normal speed).
I think the run looked optimal enough.
You can't zombie hover up since any items you collect while dead don't actually get collected in HD.
Light Arrow skip in this case would not be faster, as getting boomerang would be a 4 minute detour and Light Arrows take ~1 minute to get. We can however, skip getting the quiver and get past Phantom Ganon using this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tk-3Tox2Kjw
Also, as SlowKing was mentioning, there is in-fact a way of doing Early Master Sword with simply an Item Slide from the top of Forest Haven. I did it with frame advance on console and then spliced it together to look like real time: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jLBKV0ipoQ
- Superswim to Submarine, get caught, beat FF1 with broken lighting (Beating FF1 is required to spawn the King of Red Lions, otherwise the game will crash in Hyrule 2. The lighting will be broken during FF1 due to the game trying to apply endless night weather effects)
- Superswim to Bomb Isle submarine, obtain bottle - Superswim to Dragon Roost, get Wind Waker - Catch water in bottle, Rock Skip - Watch Delivery Bag cutscene, exit to pond area - Pour water on dry bomb flowers, blow up pond rock (Normal bombs don't work here, only bomb flowers) - Emter Dragon Roost Cavern
Would skipping Puppet Ganon even be faster if it forces you to go out of the way to get items?
In this thread, a version of GIM with a Deku Stick was mentioned, that would theoretically work on N64.
Wait, so nobody is working on a VC TAS on Dolphin right now?
So reading that twitter, SD barrier skip is basicly just around the corner, waiting to be done. That's pretty damn awesome!
-That also makes this TAS legit for TASvideo because theoratically the GIM with a deku stick actually work on N64
Yes --> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKVN2_ECzy8 I do not know if they ever made their input file public.
There's a difference between an actual console verification and using a trick that is known to always crash on console (at least in the way that is used for any%).
Can you link a specific OoT TAS you'd expect to crash? I want to see if it crashes for the same reason as the SM64 crashes, now that they can be detected without a console.
This could have been a total disaster for one simple reason. The PU stuff so often causes crash on console. That the team avoided abusing emulator to ignore such crashes was a brilliant decision. Well done on getting the TAS verified on console! Some day I hope the OoT community will follow the great example you guys have set with this TAS. As I have observed the trend in OoT speedrunning, I must admit I was skeptical when you, the authors were so secretive about this TAS in the Super Mario 64 Thread on the forum here. I feared it would be because the run would not play on console. I am happy to be proven wrong. Congratulations on this great run! MOAT DOOR HYPE!
