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Shits and giggles? I beg to differ, the run is ~6 seconds shorter because of this. I quote adelikat from IRC:
[23:45:13] <adelikat> faster cutscenes/text is not a good reason
[23:45:16] <adelikat> for J rom
[23:45:29] <adelikat> however, what you describe the submission text doesn't sound like cutscenes
[23:46:01] <Xkeeper> The reason why I picked the (J) ROM is simple. When a boss dies, it flies up, and then down, quite slowly. In the (J) ROM, if the boss is sent outside the screen on its way up, the battle will end there, saving ~2 seconds each fight it's applicable (Moon boss and the three pigs). There is close to no text in this game anyway, so no entertainment value is cut off.
[23:46:08] <Xkeeper> adelikat: slightly shorter animation in any case.
[23:46:15] <adelikat> but not a cutscene
[23:46:31] <Xkeeper> what do you define "cutscene" as
[23:46:38] <adelikat> I think the rule had something in mind related to shorter text = shorter text scenes
Don't take this as official though, I'm just saying what he said.
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Zurreco wrote:
I moved a few hundred frames past Numberman in MMBN1, but I'm still plagued with doubts as to whether or not I should skip the Cannon C I pick up right before the battle. I could trade it in to get good swords once the lotto opens up, but I don't know if ~3 seconds of sidetracking is worth one extra chip, or if I'm even going to be able to rely on luck so much.
IMO, getting it isn't worth it. You'll still have a bunch of other chips to choose from, and let's face it, manipulating the lottery to get an exact chip isn't very likely. Not that I am an expert on the game though...
Also, how the heck are we supposed to get any good chips if we don't fight any random battles? With the crappy chips avaliable, you won't get any S ranks on bosses either. And you don't really find any good chips on the Net that is right in your path.
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Twelvepack wrote:
Using the J rom for something as mundane as ~2 seconds of boss animations a few times in the run is silly. The game mechanics are the same, and all this selection does is frusterate the people watching your runs.
only use a non-(u) rom if you have a good reason to do so.
Voting no for bad rom choice.
How does it frustrate anyone? There is only text in one place, and that is the title screen. Everything else is the same, even the credits! I don't see the big issue. It's not like you don't know what game is being played because:
1. You downloaded it off TASvideos, you probably read the game name...
2. You can see it's Mario on the Gameboy, look it up dammit?
Aside from these reasons, I can't see any more reasons to why the J rom was a bad choice here. Please elaborate your decision. Did you even watch the run, by the way?
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Has there been any progress at all on any of the games recently? I made an optimised test run in EXE2 up to AirMan in 6:39, Airman dead in 17 sec. As you all know, manipulating the chips is very hard. Is there any solid way to bring out any chips you want?
Has anyone even started any kind of planning for any of the games?
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AKA wrote:
Soulrivers wrote:
Good job keeping it a secret, halting the run's progress.
How was it a secret? When about 3-4 people already know it.
Seriously, are you kidding me? You purposedly kept a TASing trick from people who were about to improve your run. You are no better than Saturn dammit.
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[03:45:19] <Soulrivers> ?
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mapler90210 wrote:
why don't you guys stop arguing for half a second, talk in such a way that ideas are actually expressed insead of the main message being "i told you already stop being an idiot," and get some work done on the dam run. i'm sick of hearing that it's been put on hold for a while because the people working on the run can't trust the people who've made runs like these before due to the fact they hate each other. i don't care how bad your relationships are with each other, leave it alone and get some work done.
Because the world demands it? This is not a place where people just order runs to be made.
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I'm disappointed you didn't just warp to the ending sequence.
What's next really? That the first escape sequence actually turns into the final one? Stunning.
Yes?
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Bisqwit wrote:
What's the deal at around 33 minutes?
You go fishing, but instead of catching a fish, you go swimming, and then leave with your rod.
What follows after that doesn't make sense at all. You go around in various places releasing the bugs in your bottle, only to catch them again...
The phenomenon is Bottle Adventure (or in this case, reverse bottle adventure (RBA)). Since it is such a complicated glitch, and I don't even fully understand it myself, I'll just link to someone who does.
http://cosmo.dreamhosters.com/RBA.html
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Sir VG wrote:
Questions:
1: Could you have gotten into the pipe at the end of the last level of Space Zone any faster?
2: Macro Zone 1: Were the weird waits necessary for the platforms? No way to get though faster?
3: Turtle Zone 2: Was the wall glitch (and assumably 2 hits you took in order to do it) necessary? If so, why and how much time did you save?
1. I don't think you should be asking me that, I did as fast as I think is possible.
2. Yes, they unfortunately were.
3. From my tests it saved one wait for the spikes.
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[03:45:19] <Soulrivers> ?
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Swordless Link wrote:
Holy crap @ the following things:
1. how you got the first honeycomb piece.
2. standing underwater.
3. getting on top of the maze. I never even knew this was possible.
Great job, as always.
Exactly the points I thought of. I wish I could plan routes like you. :)
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[03:45:19] <Soulrivers> ?
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