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Just checked the TASVideos YouTube channel and noticed that my Landstalker run has, apparently, been flagged by 'Victor Entertainment, Inc.' for, at least, the U.S.
I have no idea who this company is?
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Anty-Lemon wrote:
https://www.quora.com/Why-havent-humans-evolved-to-be-giants tl;dr: Being bigger would be far from efficient in terms of cost/benefit Dinosaurs could be big because they ate other slow dinosaurs, or they ate leaves on really tall trees. Giant humans, nor anything resembling a human, wouldn't nearly be tall enough to eat anything out of reach from other herbivores, and they'd be hard-pressed to catch any potential prey because they'd be freaking slow. There needs to be big and slow prey before big and slow predators can be efficient.
I'd imagine they'd definitely be slower than, say, someone half their size; but I don't think this would be as big of a detriment as you may envision. If we're speaking of sturdier and proportionally sized giants (and not anomalies like Wadlow), then I'd imagine that they'd possess formidable explosiveness and athleticism. Take your 6'4+, 285lb+ linebackers in football. They're big guys, but they can generate major power and speed on the gridiron in a relatively short period of time. Now take a giant-sized equivalent at, say, 12'6", 575 lbs. If giant humans could possess similar athletic qualities as standard ones, then I'd say they could reasonably close in on the speed gap. This is also assuming that they'd still be just as intelligent. So even if they were too slow to close in on prey in close-quarters, I'd bet they could nonetheless adapt by making a mean long-ranged weapon with some vicious force behind it (slings, spears, bows, etc.).
OmnipotentEntity wrote:
Real question: Why did you choose giants? Why not do some other creature that hucksters found "evidence" for in the late 1800s and got picked up by the papers? Like mermaids and unicorns and bigfoot and whatnot? Do you have a religious predisposition to wanting to confirm Jewish tradition creation myths? Mermaids: http://hoaxes.org/archive/permalink/the_feejee_mermaid/ Unicorns: http://clickamericana.com/eras/1930s/the-fable-of-the-unicorn-1935 Bigfoot: http://pabigfootsociety.com/historical-bigfoot-articles.html
Big reason: The New York Times published archaeological reports were presented as actual findings, with detailed information and reported follow-ups. Unlike, for example, some of those Bigfoot articles you linked to, these included actual alleged evidence (e.g. the location of the dig site, descriptions of the finds, where they were sent to to confirm, etc.) where one could presumably research into further. That's what interests me. And me being a Christian also has a part in me being interested in giants. As I replied to nfq (and as he also mentioned), the Bible has a remarkable number of accounts in the Old Testament where tribes of giants, and noteworthy individual ones, were recorded. I also got the opportunity to participate in an archaeological dig project in Israel back in 2012, which was simply a wonderful experience to be a part of. So overall: Research (developed in college), religion (Christianity), and real-world experiences (archaeology work) have all contributed to this interest of mine :)
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Samsara wrote:
Watching the two runs back to back (thank heavens they're short) isn't convincing me that they both deserve a spot on the site, as they're almost literally the exact same game with different music/stage layouts. I'll pose a topic to the audience rather than to the author: Is this version of the game better, worse, or exactly the same as the SMS version? Is there enough different to publish both runs side-by-side? Should this run obsolete the SMS run (assuming it's up to the site's standards of optimization)?
In terms of game version, it didn't seem much different to me, at all (although I do prefer the SMS version's more upbeat BGM). As for publishing both side-by-side...eh, one technically could, but I don't see much of a point in doing so, since the two are so identical and brief in length (no disrespect to the author, of course). As for obsoleting Synahel's SMS run, isn't this one about 1 second and a half longer? (unless I'm overlooking something?)
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I'm sharing the same sentiments as CoolKirby: It's certainly a good and well made time improvement over Mukki's, albeit it's more of a slower-paced game, overall. I'd like to get some more community feedback before making an official verdict, though. Could some others post and give their personal take on this one?
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BrunoVisnadi wrote:
Wait, does the article claims those giants were actual humans? This would be absolutely impossible. As many people have pointed out, a human wouldn't survive in those conditions. What I understood was that the fossils were from a different specie, some big kind of primate, anatomically different from human beings. Then, it would make some sense biologically, at least. However, I can still see no way this is true. Why would all the fossils of that specie and of all the evolutionary lineage that finished up in the said specie just disappear? Would the contemporary science be hiding it? Why would they do that? Every possible explanation I can think of is way too much conspiratorial. Ah, and please tell me if there is some other explanation I overlooked, I think I didn't read every post.
Dude, I really don't want to be "that guy" and just come out and say "conspiracy". Regardless of my personal stance on giants, I actually want to research this thing until I reach a definitive stopping point. The NY Times articles were eye-catching, even sensational in their claims. A lot of them, also, stated that the alleged finds were sent to other places to confirm, such as the Historical Society and the Smithsonian Institute. So surely, if these were all bogus, then these places would have archived records stating so? Alright: I'm definitely headed to these places, next.
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Tompa, are you still intending to judge this one?
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nfq wrote:
I've talked about giants several times before on this forum and I also think it's an interesting topic. Check out this page for reports of skeletons that have been found: http://davidpratt.info/ape2.htm#a2 (scroll down to section "Giant humans")
I checked out that link. Overall, they present an interesting argument in basically stating that prehistoric animals were large, so why not humans? That quote concerning the Smithsonian Institute also caught my eye (underline emphasis mine):
During the exploration of North American mounds and other sites in the 19th and early 20th centuries, hundreds of bones were recovered, including remains of human giants, mostly 2.1 to 2.7 m (7 to 9 ft) tall, but sometimes as tall as 3.7 m (12 ft).2 The official view is that they were just isolated cases of gigantism among the Indians, but some of the skeletons seem to have belonged to an extinct, non-Indian race, and many Indian tribes have traditions of giants once occupying the land. In the case of some burials, the skeletal remains appeared to be uncommonly old and crumbled to dust when exposed to the atmosphere. Scientists from the Smithsonian Institution were involved in some of these finds; many of the bones were shipped off to its huge museum and have never been seen again. Only a small proportion of over a million artifacts in their collection are on public view – but no giants are among them.
Now I'm very curious in further researching their archives... The pic provided underneath that quote was also eye-catching.
Fig. 4.11. According to a report in The World, 7 October 1895, a party of prospectors found the mummified remains of a very tall man in a cave near San Diego, California. Over his head were the remnants of a leather hood. An expert from the Smithsonian Institution inspected the remains; the mummified body was 2.5 m (8 ft 4 in) tall and the height of the man when alive was estimated to be 2.7 m (9 ft).3
nfq wrote:
There have also been found giant skulls which have double rows of teeth [1], and giants with six fingers. The Bible mentions "a huge man" who had six fingers and toes in 2 Samuel 21:20. The giant races have various names in the Bible, like nephilim, rephaim, anak and anakim. Giants are also mentioned in many other religions and mythologies. "There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown." (Genesis 6:4)...
Going through the Old Testament, I've also noticed many passages which specifically refer to tribes of giants, as well as those those mentioned by name (e.g. Og, Goliath, Saph, etc.). Speaking of those recorded to have 6 fingers and toes: I heard somewhere that, allegedly, the reason why the Indians would greet each other with their palms out and hands extended is so that they could see whether or not the other person had only 5 fingers!
nfq wrote:
Another interesting and related topic is the elongated skulls that have been found all around the world: "The cranial volume is up to 25 percent larger and 60 percent heavier than conventional human skulls, meaning they could not have been intentionally deformed through head binding/flattening." [2] (when people were no longer born with large elongated heads, the primitive people tried to imitate the "gods" by brutally and artificially elongating their heads, so that they also would also be respected as kings) Among royalties, large hats have always been common, like in ancient Egypt for example. I believe that is because (like history/mythology tells us), kings in ancient times used to be "gods" or their descendants, and they had larger brains (and bodies too, sometimes), wisdom and powers than ordinary humans living at the same time, which is also why they got into positions of power ("the divine right to rule")...
That's another major element that interested me in researching giants: I've seen quite a few pics of those elongated heads that you're talking about, in certain documentaries. Those look out of this world! If enough compelling sources and research can be provided, that'll be something that I hope to also have included in this thread.
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[1] http://www.sott.net/article/256712-A-giant-mystery-18-strange-giant-skeletons-found-in-Wisconsin-Sons-of-god-Men-of-renown [2] http://www.infowars.com/dna-results-for-the-nephilim-skulls-in-peru-are-in-and-the-results-are-absolutely-shocking/ [3] http://www.theosociety.org/pasadena/sd/sd2-1-12.htm See also: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giant_of_Castelnau http://www.sacred-texts.com/atl/soa/soamap.htm
Nfq, could I use some of the links that you've provided as support sources? That 1st one, especially, references another New York Times article that I've yet to include, in my original post. Thanks for providing this additional information!
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jlun2 wrote:
Probably because, assuming they exist, their body would've been in pain for the knees along with heart problems. A search gives these quotes for Robert:
Wadlow's size began to take its toll: he required leg braces to walk and had little feeling in his legs and feet. Despite these difficulties, he never used a wheelchair.
Instead of a blessing, extreme height can be a curse. Lanky people have to stoop through doorways and struggle to fit in cars. Taller folks are more prone to certain maladies as well, such as joint and cardiovascular problems.
Also this. It's quite a disadvantage for giants.
In response to this, I do find myself agreeing with moozooh that, perhaps, these alleged giants would have had sturdier, proportional bodies. I mean, if there were an entire tribe or race of them (and not just rare anomalies like Wadlow), then they would have certainly established a village or society that would have accommodated their larger sizes, I'd imagine?
BrunoVisnadi wrote:
Hum... this does sound like a hoax, but there seems to be some reasonable amount of evidence supporting this. Well, evolutionarily, it wouldn't be that nonsense if a specie similar to the human beings, but much bigger, had existed in the past. The problem is that they should probably have been already identified and cataloged, shouldn't them? If modern archaeology has managed to find really old and rare fossils, why wouldn't they find those? Since they are big mammals, they are definitely newer than dinosaurs, for example. And if they were extremely rare so that even modern archaeology wouldn't be able to find them, how would them be found in the 1800s?...
That is a very good question, Bruno. If all of these alleged finds, way back when, were legit, then what happened to them? As I responded to Warp, I recall that a few of the articles I came across mentioned the Smithsonian Institute. I believe that would be one of the next natural steps to take in this project: Researching through their archives.
Bobo the King wrote:
Ever heard of Piltdown Man? You shouldn't believe in everything dug out of the ground, especially during the late 1800s' paleontology craze...
I've actually heard a little of the Piltdown Man hoax. So they, apparently, tried to get away with combining an orangutan jawbone with a human cranium? Wow. Crazy how long that went without being refuted. And the 'Cardiff Giant' was quite the hoax also, apparently... Finally, don't get me wrong: I'm not blindly believing what's being claimed in the articles that I've posted. What I do find interesting about them, though, is that I didn't recall coming across a published report that officially refuted any of them (although I'll check the archives again and do my due diligence, to be sure).
Ferret Warlord wrote:
I would say that newspaper publishers were desperate for every last bit of sensational news they could get, leading to not a whole lot of fact checking, so a bunch of hoaxes could easily get through.
Possibly. A lot of these articles do state, however, that the finds were sent to other places to be examined (e.g. the Historical Society, the American Indian Museum, etc.). Surely, these places have archives of their own which can confirm or deny these reports?
Aqfaq wrote:
Every question is interesting. With so much information these days, it is sometimes difficult to tell how trustworthy some claim is. No worries! Philosophy of science gives us some tools for evaluating information more accurately: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophy_of_science Everyone of us can very easily be mistaken, but luckily we have a checklist for that, so just see through the list whether you have succumbed to a cognitive bias: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cognitive_biases Also recommended: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conspiracy_theory This is tool-assisted thinking. Use all the tools to overcome human limitations. This way your model of reality becomes more accurate. After you have acquired a model of reality that explains many phenomena with good accuracy, you can easily see whether giants fit into reality or not.
Those are a LOT of cognitive biases, lol. Not sure exactly which ones I'd fall under. I am, however, willing to objectively research this topic further and see where the "money trail" goes. Perhaps it'll reveal that the alleged finds were all hoaxes...or perhaps a "conspiracy theory" or two will pop up, instead. However it comes up, I will strive to be objective about things, while keeping things in balanced perspective (i.e. tool-assisted thinking). ---- So anyhow, I hope I adequately addressed the points brought up in this thread, so far. It seems evident that the next order of business is to research the facilities where all of these alleged finds were sent to. If anything comes up, I'll update finds at the top of the thread!
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Warp wrote:
No, I don't have any kind of personal issue with you. I have no recollection of what you may or may not have done in the past, nor do I much care.
That is good to hear. I didn't know whether or not you took exception to something I may have posted in the past.
Warp wrote:
However, I do have an issue with the topic and how it's presented. (Not this topic in particular, but in general these types of topics.) I especially have a problem if these topics are presented in an echo chamber with no criticism welcomed.
Criticism is certainly welcome in this thread. What I take exception to is what you have been doing to me, in making ridiculing remarks, such as these:
Warp wrote:
Are we seriously going through yet another silly conspiracy theory? *sigh*
Warp wrote:
...Silly conspiracy theories of this caliber deserve nothing but ridicule...
Warp wrote:
...Btw, I have a bridge to sell you, if you are interested. I can give you a New York Times article about it.
^All of that above, Warp, isn't criticism. Do I also have to also remind you that you kept making these responses to me -- after I stated that I wasn't going to respond to you anymore? How am I supposed to take that? Anyhow, as I stated: Criticism is welcome. Criticize the New York Times for publishing the articles. Just please leave me, personally, out of it.
Warp wrote:
I appreciate and advocate reason, skepticism and proper science. Hoaxes and conspiracy theories can be an interesting topic, but only in the sense of studying how the human mind works, and what can fool people into believing them. (They can also make for great fiction, but that's a different tangent altogether.)
Good to know. I'm a bit skeptical myself about the articles; mainly due to there being no apparent follow up to those alleged finds which were published over the years. I noticed a few of them mentioned the Smithsonian Institute, for example. Perhaps the next logical order of business for me will be to research their archives?
Warp wrote:
Promoting hoaxes and conspiracy theories can be damaging. It misleads people into believing falsities, and I take that seriously. I hate people misleading other people, especially when it's done using all the logical and argumentative fallacies in the book. I value truth over fantasy, and I detest people who would try to convince other people of fantasies and hoaxes.
So me posting archived New York Times articles is me trying to "convince" people of fantasies and hoaxes? Come on, Warp. I've even stated that the published articles were "alleged" finds. As I've stated: I find the topic to be interesting and intend to research it further. If it eventually leads to a 'dead end' or whatever, cool. I just found it interesting enough to share as a topic, and intend to continue with it to see whatever I may happen to uncover. Anyhow, as I stated to Mothrayas earlier, I'm now going to be in the process of answering everyone else's points and objections brought up, so far in the thread. Give me about an hour or so to reply :)
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Mothrayas wrote:
ars4326: While you've received a variety of responses to this topic, some more or less on-topic than others and some more or less civil than others, I note you've only selected specific posters to answer to (both of which were more in the negative direction) and left aside a few (imo) interesting, and rational/scientific discussion points like e.g this and this. Do you have any interest in discussing with posts like these? So far, I've seen you just post out links and decry a few people's posts, but for this topic to have any value, I think some actual discussion would be nice.
I can agree with that, Mothrayas. I, admittedly, haven't yet thought about addressing other's legit points in this thread. I just really wanted to set a precedent of being civil in this thread. I'm a bit busy, atm, but I'll hopefully come back to this thread later on this evening and do my best to answer those points presented. I might not have a good rebuttal for some, but I'll do my best to answer them!
Warp wrote:
Ah, the 19th century New York Times, that bastion of trustworthy and reliable peer-reviewed science. If it's printed on NYT, it must be true. If it was printed there over a century ago, it must be doubly so. Btw, I have a bridge to sell you, if you are interested. I can give you a New York Times article about it.
I know I stated that I wasn't going to reply to you further, but you seem intent on continuing to provoke a reaction out of me. Do you have a personal issue with me? If so, send me a PM or log on to irc chat here in about 4-5 hours (or whenever it's convenient for you). Let's work this out like grown men.
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Bobo the King wrote:
Warp wrote:
Why would you want to believe in fantasy when reality can be so much more exciting and interesting? Why would you want to believe some hoax, when you can find out things that we can actually corroborate via observation, measurement and testing? Why would you want to believe in imaginary tales, when reality is wondrous and weird all in itself? Cast aside those fantasies. Educate yourself on how the universe really works. That's a much more interesting and productive subject.
Totally agreed. I assure anyone reading this thread that quantum mechanics is orders of magnitude more strange and interesting than "OMG! Really big people!"
In that case Bobo, how about creating a new thread that discusses quantum mechanics? In the meantime (for those who are interested in this topic), I've uncovered a couple of more New York Times articles about alleged discoveries of giant skeletons. I'll update my first post here later on, to display the new content.
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Warp wrote:
You can ask all you want. Silly conspiracy theories of this caliber deserve nothing but ridicule.
I see. So you're going to disrespect my cordial request and come on to this thread and ridicule it, anyway. You know what, Warp? I'm not your dad. You have every right to post wherever you want on this site. I will state however, that your attitude does little to endear you. So as I've stated to you on another thread: Post away, and to your heart's content. But don't expect a further reply from me. And as for everyone else: All I ask is for some mutual courtesy and respect. I happen to find the subject of giants to be interesting. I also thought that the NY Times articles were remarkable in their claims, and thought it would be cool to share in this thread. That's it.
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moozooh wrote:
I'm wondering if any of those skeletons on modern photos I've linked have made it to labs and not ended up a hoax. One would think that the scientific community would be in uproar already. Anthropology is not exactly a field where something new and exciting happens every day... especially considering it deals only with the past matters (and the ever-shrinking body of physical evidence). A giant skeleton that's not simply an extreme singular mutation would easily be Nobel prize material, but no-one seems to have claimed that one. I'm pretty certain something like that would be more deserving of a prize compared to stuff like "the discovery of a bacterium and its role in gastritis". One can see why I'm not keeping my hopes up. :\
Absolutely! I mean, the tallest person ever recorded in modern history (iirc) is Robert Pershing Wadlow, who was just a hair shy of reaching 9 ft. tall. So when I see articles, in the New York Times of all places, claiming that archaeological finds were once discovered containing multiple skeletons whose height allegedly exceeding 9 and 12 ft. tall, I sit here and ask myself ...well, what happened to them?
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Warp wrote:
Are we seriously going through yet another silly conspiracy theory? *sigh*
If you're going to come here to make belittling remarks, then I'm simply going to ask you not to participate in this thread.
moozooh wrote:
Even if some of that information is factually true, the sheer amount of irrelevant noise makes it extremely unpleasant to waddle through in search of solid proof. And the people who propagate the noise are pretty special as well. A couple of my friends turned into a unique breed of escapists thanks to that.
Trust me: As a University undergraduate, I definitely know the feeling in having to waddle through a bunch of hearsay, etc. in looking for solid evidence/sources. This project does interest me, nonetheless!
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But seriously though, this would be (more) interesting if they had pictures as well. Continue the research!
Thanks, Solarplex :) If I recall right, these kinds of archaeological reports in the NY Times archives stopped appearing entirely up to the point of around World War I/World War II. I'm also still very curious if these past alleged finds made their way into, say, any kind of museums or forensic labs. Also: I'm wondering if, similar to the NY Times, other long-running newspapers have an online archive up and running. That would be very interesting to look into, as well (and, of course, I would post the screen captures).
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Post subject: Evidence for Giants? No way! ...way? (Updated 12/18)
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So a couple of months back over the summer, I got into digging into the online preserved archives of the New York Times (they had quite a good deal going on for a monthly web subscription). While going way back into the 1800's/early 1900's, I was quite surprised when I began uncovering archaeological reports of giant skeletons (some well over 9ft. tall) being uncovered. With winter looming in here in the States, I may start investing more into this research project. In the meantime, feel free to check out these screen captures I made of the various newspaper reports, in question. TABLE OF CONTENTS I. Newspaper Reports II. American Indian Tribes
I. NEWSPAPER REPORTS
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New York Times: Nov. 21, 1856
SKELETON OF A GIANT FOUND
Summary: Originally sourced from the Wheeling Times, decayed human skeletal remains were discovered in East Wheeling on the property of one Sheriff Wheeler (at his vineyard). Both the Sheriff and "a brother in the craft locale" reportedly measured the skeleton and were prepared to stand by claims that it measured 10 feet 9 inches in length. Its jaws and teeth were also claimed to be "as large as those of a horse". The bones were then reportedly kept at the Sheriff's office. Screen capture within source TO DO: The published archives of The Wheeling Times could possibly provide follow-up information on this report...
New York Times: Dec. 25, 1868
Reported Discovery of a Huge Skeleton.
Summary: Originally sourced from the Dec. 18th edition of the Sank Rapids Sentinel, city quarrymen allegedly found the petrified remains of a giant human skeleton embedded in solid granite rock (with the remains, itself, further embedded in sand). The length of the skeleton was measured to be 10 feet, 9 1/2 inches, with the skull measuring 31 1/2 inches in circumference, and the femur 26 1/4 inches, etc. Estimated weight, when alive, was stated to be 906 lbs. The petrified bones, themselves, reportedly weighed 304 1/4 lbs. No follow-up institution was named to confirm or archive the finds. Screen capture within source TO DO: Research archives of the Sank Rapids Sentinel (Minn.) for possible follow-up reports
New York Times: May 25, 1882
THE BONES OF A GIANT FOUND.
Summary: Allegedly discovered in the Red River Valley region of St. Paul, Minn., a perfectly preserved skull of "heroic size" was uncovered in a burial mound amongst the bones of male, female, and animal skeletal remains. "Abnormally large" body bones were found near the skull, as well (who was evidently deemed a giant, in the report). A thorough investigation of the burial mound was reportedly scheduled by the Historical Society. Screen capture within source TO DO: Research possible follow-up sources with St. Paul's historical newspaper archives. Research the archives of The Historical Society
New York Times: Nov. 12, 1883
FORTY INCHES AROUND THE SKULL.
Summary: A rather brief report emanating from Wheeling, West Virginia, where a human skull allegedly measuring 40 inches in circumference around the skull was uncovered in the process of road construction. No other bones where reportedly found nearby. The height of the skeleton was estimated to be 14 feet high. No follow-up institution was named to confirm or archive the find. Screen capture within source TO DO: Wheeling, or Preston County, might have some historical archives available online...
New York Times: Oct. 3, 1892
A Race of Giants in Old Gaul.
Summary: Originally sourced from the London Globe, human bones of allegedly "double the ordinary" enormous size were found in Castelnau (Herault), and were reportedly confirmed by one Professor Kieger. While admitting they were of a "very tall race", he nonetheless found their dimensions to be abnormal and of apparent "morbid growth". Screen capture within source TO DO: Research archives of the London Globe, as well as look into any available published notes from Professor Kieger.
New York Times: Dec. 20, 1897
WISCONSIN MOUND OPENED.
Skeleton Found of a Man Over Nine Feet High with an Enormous Skull.
Summary: Found within (at the time) one of three recently discovered mounds in Maple Creek, Wisconsin, was a human skeleton of "gigantic size". The fairly preserved bones reportedly measured over 9 ft. high, with the skull being the size of a "half bushel" measure. Although no follow-up institution was named, it was reported that the other two mounds were soon scheduled for future excavation. Screen capture within source TO DO: Research Maple Creek newspaper archives...
New York Times: Feb. 11, 1902
GIANT SKELETONS FOUND.
Archaeologists to Send Expedition to Explore Graveyards in New Mexico Where Bodies Were Unearthed.
Summary: Antiquarians and archaeologists have announced plans of preparing an expedition in the region of Guadalupe, New Mexico, where an old burial ground reportedly yielded human skeletons of "enormous size". The bones of a frame allegedly of at least 12 feet in length were discovered in an ancient burial mound located on a local rancher's property. Among other measurements, the forearm was reportedly four feet long, while the chest had a circumference of seven feet. The rancher, Luciana Quintana, is claimed to have uncovered many other burial places and stated that "perhaps thousands" of such giant skeletons would be found. He bases this supposition on traditional stories of the early Spanish Invasion, which reportedly gives detailed knowledge concerning a race of giants who once existed in the region. Screen capture within source TO DO: Many areas can be further researched here, included archives of Los Angeles newspaper reports, the local archives of Guadalupe and Meso Rico, as well further looking into the written historical accounts of the early Spanish Invasion.
New York Times: May 4, 1908
GIANT SKELETONS' FOUND.
Cave in Mexico Gives Up the Bones of an Ancient Race.
Summary: One Charles C. Clapp, involved in a mining business in Mexico, reportedly discovered a cave containing 200 giant skeletal remains of men, each exceeding eight feet in height. Upon arranging one of these skeletons, Clapp alleged the length of it to be 8 feet 11 inches, with a skull measurement of 18 inches (from front to back), molars big enough to "crack a coconut", and a femur bone reaching up to his thigh. Clapp reported these finds to one Professor Agassiz. The report concluded that the remains belonged to a race of giants who predated the Aztecs. Screen capture within source TO DO: Research further into the published works of Professor Agassiz, and see whether or not there are any other published accounts of Charles Clapp's testimony.
New York Times: July 14, 1916
GIANTS' BONES IN MOUND.
Scientists Unearth Relics of Indians Who Lived 700 Years Ago.
Summary: Prof. Alanson B. Skinner (American Indian Museum), Prof. W.K. Morehead (Phillips Andover Academy) and Dr. George Donahue (Pennsylvania State Historian) allegedly discovered an Indian burial mound located on Tioga Point, outside of Sayre, Pennsylvania, containing the skeletal remains of 68 men. The average height of these skeletons were stated to be 7 feet, with many being "much taller". Giant stown-hewn axes were also found alongside their graves. A skull, along with a few bones, were reportedly sent to the American Indian Museum. (Sayre, Pennsylvania, is located at the junction of the Chemung and Susquehanna rivers, and was once home to the American Indian tribe of the Susquehannock) Screen capture within source TO DO: Research American Indian Museum archives, as well as the published works of the three men identified in the article.
New York Times: March 17, 1924
FIND SKELETON OF GIANT
Idaho Road Men Dig Up Bones of Prehistoric Herbivorous Woman
Summary: Members of the state highway dept. allegedly uncovered a "huge skeleton" measuring over 8 feet in height. Curiously, the upper and lower jaws reportedly contained only 10 teeth each; all intact. Three physicians were reported to have pronounced the gender to be female. The lower jaw and vertebrae were reportedly sent to the Smithsonian institute, for further analysis. Screen capture within source TO DO: Research archives of the Smithsonian Institute...
II. AMERICAN INDIAN TRIBES
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SUSQUEHANNOCKS
(cross-reference NY Times Report: July 14, 1916)
Captain John Smith's Journals: Smith's Second Voyage (July 24, 1608) [SMITH AND HIS MEN MEET THE SUSQUEHANNOCKS NEAR HAVRE DE GRACE] Hatchets from the Sasquesahanocks. "Many hatchets, knives, peeces of iron, and brasse, we saw amongst them, which they reported to have from the Sasquesahanocks, a mightie people and mortall enemies with the Massawomeks. The Sasquesahanocks inhabit upon the chiefe Spring of these foure branches of the Bayes head, two dayes journey higher then our barge could passe for rocks, yet we prevailed with the Interpreter to take with him another Interpreter, to perswade the Sasquesahanocks to come visit us, for their language are different. Three or foure dayes we expected their returne, then sixtie of those gyant-like people came downe, with presents of Venison, Tobacco-pipes three foot in length, Baskets, Targets, Bowes and Arrowes." [modern English translation] "Many hatchets, knives, pieces of iron, and brass, we saw amongst them, which they reported to have from the Susquehannocks, a mighty people and mortal enemies with the Massaomeks. The Susquehannocks inhabit upon the chief Spring of these four branches of the Bayes head, two days journey higher than our barge could pass [due to the] rocks, yet we prevailed with the Interpreter to take with him another Interpreter, to persuade the Susquehannocks to come visit us for their language are different. Three or four days we expected their return, then 60 of those giant-like people came down, with presents of venison, tobacco pipes three foot in length, baskets, targets, bows and arrows." Henry W. Shoemaker Tales of the Bald Eagle Mountains in Central Pennsylvania (1912) Chapter XI. THE GIANTESS (Story of McElhattan Mountain) [pp. 208-11] "When the great flood of St. Patrick's Day, 1865, laid bare, in the bed of McElhattan Creek, the gigantic statue of a giantess carved out of black flint, the old settlers, and the few Indians who remained at Nichol's Run, predicted a series of disasters to the neighborhood...the figure was carved from the stone during the last years of the sixteenth century. When it was uncovered by the flood of 1865, the accounts which appeared in the Clinton County newspapers heralded it as a relic of remote antiquity, and it would have been generally accepted as such, had it not been for the "old timers" who knew the legend of its comparatively recent origin. For once in its career it was only a seven days wonder. The paragraphs in the papers attracted a few antiquarians to the scene and the native mountaineers marvelled and brought their families, but the closing events of the Civil War and Lincoln's assassination soon overshadowed it. A freshet in September broke the drift pile which had diverted the stream from its original course, and the "Giantess of McElhattan", as she was called, was covered once more by the rushing current. For a few weeks those who passed over a prostrate beech tree which served as a footbridge nearby, could see the angry, revengeful features of the giantess peering up at them through the clear water, but sand, and pebbles and branches of trees drifted across it, and were giving it a brand new shroud. With the Spring of the next year, the face was entirely covered, and only the sable outlines of the breasts were reflected through the limpid depths. In another year these were covered, and with it went the last memory of the Giantess, to rest until Destiny sends her forth again..."
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Thanks, Samsara :) I believe I have everything now correctly updated. I should have an official judgment made here in a few hours!
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Sure. I'll wait until an updated file is produced. Mephistus, are you fine w/ co-authorship here? It'll be your name and then Really_Tall's on the billing.
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Really_Tall wrote:
User movie #26170418437168561 I improved the second boss by roughly 7 seconds. It can definitely still be improved though, so good luck with that Mephistus! I thought the boss had one less health than it actually did, so the ending can probably better. (The address 0184 is boss HP, and it lives while at 0 health and only dies when the value wraps to 255.) I didn't try and improve any other parts of the movie, but I might later today. Not touching this boss again though.
Hi, Really_Tall. To clarify, are you not wanting co-author credit for improving the boss fight? Just wanted to clear this up before updating the movie file :)
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Mothrayas wrote:
Regardless, I've said my piece, as has Hetfield90, and we both agree that the category in question is worth keeping as it was (and I'll settle with naming it "best ending, max%"). I'd like to see ars4326 get back to this topic again, to see whether or not he changed his opinion from the judgment statement, or is willing to defend it/debate about it.
After carefully re-reading through the thread and everyone's posts, I do agree that having the branch named "best ending, max%" is a sensible option to take (since having two '100%' branches creates ambiguity, in my opinion). It indeed has enough differing content from Hetfield's recent '100%' run to justify having a separate category. Namely: There's different fights in Doppler's Laboratory, alternate boss strategies due to having no Z-Saber, and keeping Zero alive for the best ending. I hope this creates a working solution for these branch categories.
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As I stated in my judgment, I also agreed in keeping the current 'best ending, 100%' run by agwawaf as a separate branch, minus the '100%' tag (seeing as how Mega Man X2 also has a 'best ending...' branch on the site). With that stated though, since preserving Zero doesn't necessarily require obtaining all upgrades, etc., that branch now might be significantly improvable. Any future plans on tackling this one, Hetfield?
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Hey man, don't worry about it! Sometimes real life gets in the way. At the end of the day, we're all here to have fun and contribute to this common hobby of ours. I look forward to seeing another run from you, whether it's a month from now, or further down the road :)
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Archanfel wrote:
By the way, maybe someone have a copies of unpublished gmv-movies from old maTO website? [For other games, not for this one] http://www.freewebs.com/suklaalevy/files/megadrive/ I remember like 3-4 years ago it was workable, but now it suddenly not work...
I have been wondering that myself, for a while (maTO has done a few select RPG runs, in the past, that I was interested in.) Anyone up for doing a fundraiser to pay his web bills? :D Anyhow, loved the improvements you made to this run, Archanfel! It was especially nice to see how you were able to survive those long falls and bypass the long waiting periods.
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To include my thoughts in on this run, Lars: It needs significantly more work. You've got flashes of potential in there with Akuma (is it possible, also, to play as different characters in the story mode?), as some select parts of his moveset could really be used in chaining some smooth-looking combos together. I'd highly recommend committing to making this one a long-term project; posting regular updates in its respective forum thread (or creating one, if one isn't made yet) and seeking out community feedback for constructive advice and criticism. I sincerely hope to eventually see a more polished project from you. Please don't get discouraged.
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Congrats, Samsara! I look forward to working alongside you :)
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Looks good, and quite the improvement over AmaizumiUni's published run! I'll have an official judgment made here soon. Also Jiseed, it looks like your final input can be reduced by about 40 frames (you close the last dialogue box at frame 27533, but end the movie at frame 27572). Could you look into updating your file (or could a certain staff member create a "spiked" input fix)?
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