Posted: 10/25/2016 8:25 PM
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Post subject: What if a GB game has longer loading with Gambatte?
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I managed to improve the current Rolan's Curse record, which is done with VBA-rr, by 22 frames, using the same emulator and version. But now I'm wondering: shouldn't I use BizHawk for better emulation accuracy, even if this gives 12 more lag frames during startup and changes the RNG, making the run different, and maybe (I haven't tried yet) a lot longer? Edit: I was wrong about the RNG, it resulted to be just the same, making no differences in gameplay.
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Posted: 10/25/2016 8:27 PM
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Yes, emulators with the Gambatte core (BizHawk or lsnes) are preferred even if they result in slower runs in the end due to loading time. As long as there are improvements in gameplay, such a slower run can still be published - there have been a few prior cases of this.
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Posted: 10/25/2016 8:35 PM
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I already know about the loading time; the problem in this case is also about the RNG, which will result in very different run (technically speaking). Wouldn't be better in this case to use the same emulator, in order to make more clear the improvements from the precedent record? I apologize for the fastidiousness.
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Posted: 10/25/2016 8:41 PM
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In that case, the more accurate emulator is still preferred, but for publication the run would need to have some improvement over the current publication that is not just due to the different RNG. It has to improve on it in technical quality. (But since your movie already describes a new trick, improving it even with the same RNG, that would probably not be a problem.)
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Posted: 10/26/2016 5:37 PM
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this run is a good example for mothrayas post http://tasvideos.org/3209M.html the run itself seems to be slower, but the improvements gameplay wise matters :)
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