This hack of rockman 4 is different from the original rockman 4. Weapons have new attacking mode, more hiden tools hide in different enemies or places, and we can also read a more interesting story. The enemies in this hack are originated from all of rockman games, which include rockman X and rockman Z.

Game objectives

  • Emulator used: <FCEUX 2.2.0>
  • Manipulate luck
  • Takes damage to save time

Comments

Rams introduction

  • 0330:X position
  • 0378:Y position
  • 03F0:Y speed
  • 0558: rockman's action
001: standing
002: shooting
004: walking
005: shooting while walking
007: in the sky
008: shooting in the air
010: climbing
011: shooting while climbing
013: turning around
014: shooting while turning
016: slidding
017: hurt
020: at the top of a ladder
021: shooting at the top of a ladder
  • 7836: timing of critical damage
1: before getting super star
1,65,129,193: after getting super star
  • 00FC: room center's X position
  • 0348: room number

Weapons introduction

  • spark manbow: Get from brightman. You fire lightbulbs which explode. If you hold B, the lightbulb hold on megabuster. If you push B with UP,the flash attack is done.
  • toad: Get from toadman. You emit the special wave which turns the enemies. No turning enemies are damaged. The traps are also damaged. Mystery force may affect the gimmick.
  • drill torpedo: Get from drillman. You fire three drills which guided to the floor or ceiling. drills pierces everything. If you push B again, you can re-fire.
  • pharaoh shotgun:Get from pharaohman. You scatter bullets ahead. This is chargeble, and you can attack above you when charging. If you push B again, you can re-fire.
  • holdable control ring boomerang: Get from ringman. You throw the ring shaped boomerang toward 8 direction. If you hold B, rings hold in air. Rings can catch items.
  • recycle inhaler: Get from dustman. You inhale close enemies and turn it into an item. The traps are also inhaleble.Not inhalable enemies take damages. Let's inhale various things.
  • water cutter: Get from diveman. You shoot out the high-pressured water toward 8 direction. If you push B again, you can re-fire. This is effective to the fire enemies.
  • hell wheel: Get from skullman. You can charge to enemies with skull wheel. You can stop if you push B when running. You can turn with D-PAD.
  • rush search: Same to rockman 7. Rush may dig the life energy in certain situation(boss room). It costs 9!
  • rush cannon: You load Rush in megabuster and fire. When he hit the enemy or wall, grand explosion occurs. One shot from this should kill any enemy, but this may be dodged. It costs 14!
  • wish star: You send the enemies to another dimension and charge them repeatedly with rush. More and more power is performed when in a pinch. It costs 28!
  • wire: You throw wire hook and you can move to hung place. Throwing direction is controled by D-PAD. You can jump when rolling up wire.It costs 0!
  • balloon: You generate the small balloon below. You can control the balloon on. You can fire megabuster when the balloon exists. It costs 10!
  • super star: This is what was attached on shadow man's forehead. This amplifies cruelty. This increases the critical chance( 1/256 to 4/256) and the critical damages( 3 times to 5 times damages).
  • metall's helmet: This is a hard hat of a metall. For this have broken a bit when recycleing, this may be useless. This sometimes reduces damages.

tips

  • Use the buttons A and B on the 2P to switch weapons.
  • To reach the fastest, I selected the first level of the skullman, because the weapon can make rockman run faster.
  • If a buster's bullet damages a boss, he will get a very long unbeatable time. To save more time, I would rather make critical damages than make damages as soon as possible.
  • In ringman level, I jumped up to get the best result, which means the appear of the three enemies, in 4 frames when I have been the mid-boss room, so that I could eliminate all of the enemies before they disappear.
  • At the mid-boss room in drillman level, hurting the enemy before he lands can cause a fatal damage, so I shoot at him as soon as possible to save time.
  • At the beginning of dustman level, the transfer belts make Rockman speed up or slow down, so I jump to avoid slow down when move in opposite and run to speed up when move direct.
  • When the explosion of Rush Cannon occurs, I switch a weapon to avoid extra lags.
  • Switching weapons can clean the bullets.
  • The rain in toadman level can make Rockman move faster when he is over the ground.
  • Pharaohman can use magic to influence Rockman, but the effects can be cleaned by toad.
  • After 3 stages finished, Rockman will get Rush Cannon. After 6 stages finished, Rockman will get Wish Star.
  • The whale in diveman level can not be defeated by Cannon because Rush is being used. Only busters can cause Enker damages.

Other comments

There are interesing shows in dustman, toadman, Wily 2, Wily 3, Wily 4 stage.

improvable ideas

  • More traits of hell wheel and wire can be used.
  • In the second to last stage, the helmet can decrease the damages to save the time of switching weapon.
  • Shoot at the mid-boss in drillman level later.
  • The 4 frames wasted in ringman level should be saved.
  • Better route:skullman, ringman, drillman, brightman, diveman, toadman, pharaohman, dustman
  • Less lags in skullman, drillman, diveman, toadman, C1, C3, W1, W4 (C=Cossack,W=Wily)

Noxxa: Judging.
Noxxa: Added YouTube module.
Noxxa: While a few bits could be done better and the playaround sections could've used some more work, it did not stop the run from being highly regarded as entertaining, and the time attack itself doesn't have significantly major flaws. Accepting for Moons tier.


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This topic is for the purpose of discussing #3902: tianwodeai's NES Rockman 4 Minus Infinity in 38:52.77
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Yes vote, already watched the nicovideo encode. Also, I am surprised that Spark Manbow (Brightman's weapon) is Brightman's weakness (in the refights).
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I watched the run, the game seems very difficult, and the process is long, but there are many weapons can be used, make it fun, very impressive. However it's a great hack of rockman games. I am voting yes, nice job!
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If this is published, I'm thinking of moving the MM5 Star to this one.
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feos wrote:
If this is published, I'm thinking of moving the MM5 Star to this one.
Can't say I'd be against that idea.
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feos wrote:
If this is published, I'm thinking of moving the MM5 Star to this one.
Do you expect the movie to be published? Is my movie boring?
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tianwodeai wrote:
feos wrote:
If this is published, I'm thinking of moving the MM5 Star to this one.
Do you expect the movie to be published? Is my movie boring?
It was not boring AT ALL. I love this game and think even a slightly suboptimal TAS of it will be very interesting. I have a question: I saw many missed shots in a flight level. Were they of any use?
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From submission text: "This run aims to reach the fastest but not no getting hurts." Did you mean no death (I saw plenty of damage while watching the run on fast forward while dumping)? Would abusing death even save time?
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Congratulations on your first submission here, well done. I'd love to see another hack of Rockman get published. Yet I have a question, why did you aim to reach the fastest time but without getting hurt, while getting hurt could save time? Would getting hurt decrease the entertainment value or something? Thanks. Edit: Sorry, my mistake... The author takes damage of course.
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At first glance, this run looks suboptimal in some places. I'll take another look if I get the time.
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Guys I come from the DidyKnogRacist communite, and you are all wrong, tihs is the run of the mileniun and everyone who says otherwise dosnt know any bater! I found this run vary ease to masturbate too!!!! Don't fuck with me, I know this game so that mean I'm always right!StupedfackincommunityTASVideoz!!!!!!
Arc wrote:
I enjoyed this movie in which hands firmly gripping a shaft lead to balls deep in multiple holes.
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I don't want to get involved in this discussion, but as a point of fact C# is literally the first goddamn thing on that fucking page you linked did you even fucking read it
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I think the author means he didn't aim for no damage.
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feos wrote:
tianwodeai wrote:
feos wrote:
If this is published, I'm thinking of moving the MM5 Star to this one.
Do you expect the movie to be published? Is my movie boring?
It was not boring AT ALL. I love this game and think even a slightly suboptimal TAS of it will be very interesting. I have a question: I saw many missed shots in a flight level. Were they of any use?
I didn't record the movie frame by frame sometimes (skullman and C1 stage), but it had no influence to the process. Maybe I am not very rigorous. (^.^)
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This was a very fun watch :D
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Great movie Utilize crit and Rush Cannon savings time Yes , vote
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Ilari wrote:
From submission text: "This run aims to reach the fastest but not no getting hurts." Did you mean no death (I saw plenty of damage while watching the run on fast forward while dumping)? Would abusing death even save time?
If I try to avoid the enemies or kill them ,more time will be wasted.But death will waste much more time, so calculating the damages is necessary.
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HappyLee wrote:
Congratulations on your first submission here, well done. I'd love to see another hack of Rockman get published. Yet I have a question, why did you aim to reach the fastest time but without getting hurt, while getting hurt could save time? Would getting hurt decrease the entertainment value or something? Thanks.
I also would like to see my effort accepted by so many seniors. The run aims to reach the fastest , but to save time ,I take damages. If I try to avoid the enemies or kill them ,more time will be wasted.But death will waste much more time, so calculating the damages is also necessary.I have added the tip ,take damages to save time, into the comments.
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I'm having trouble applying the patch for this hack. Most patches I've seen use an .ips file, but this one has a whole folder of stuff. Since I don't read Japanese, I don't understand the messages the executables spit out when I try running them. Also, there seem to be two versions: MMC3 and MMC5. Which one does this movie use? EDIT: When I downloaded the submission file, it said MMC5. My mistake.
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Love the long ending.
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Good to see it's submitted. Definite yes vote. The hack lends itself very well to making a speedrun of it look very entertaining, while also showing off the greatness of the hack itself.
http://www.youtube.com/Noxxa <dwangoAC> This is a TAS (...). Not suitable for all audiences. May cause undesirable side-effects. May contain emulator abuse. Emulator may be abusive. This product contains glitches known to the state of California to cause egg defects. <Masterjun> I'm just a guy arranging bits in a sequence which could potentially amuse other people looking at these bits <adelikat> In Oregon Trail, I sacrificed my own family to save time. In Star trek, I killed helpless comrades in escape pods to save time. Here, I kill my allies to save time. I think I need help.
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mklip2001 wrote:
I'm having trouble applying the patch for this hack. Most patches I've seen use an .ips file, but this one has a whole folder of stuff. Since I don't read Japanese, I don't understand the messages the executables spit out when I try running them. Also, there seem to be two versions: MMC3 and MMC5. Which one does this movie use? EDIT: When I downloaded the submission file, it said MMC5. My mistake.
MMC3 applies to VNES emulator, MMC5 applies to FCEU or FCEUX. So this movie used the second one. And please ensure that your rom is the newest one.
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sameasusual wrote:
feos wrote:
If this is published, I'm thinking of moving the MM5 Star to this one.
Can't say I'd be against that idea.
Why does Mega Man 5 have a star anyway?
YoungJ1997lol wrote:
Normally i would say Yes, but thennI thought "its not the same hack" so ill stick with meh.
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NitroGenesis wrote:
Why does Mega Man 5 have a star anyway?
Nach wrote:
Oh, someone submit this run to the Star committee. Do it, or StarMan gets killed in a brutal fashion.
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This hack is frankly amazing; the creator has managed to stretch the Rockman engine to things I would never have dreamed of seeing. It's clear that a run of it deserves to be published on this site, and this is the first such run submitted. I haven't analyzed the run in-depth, but it didn't look glaringly suboptimal -- the only real issue I have is with the missed shots in Cossack 1 during the autoscroller segment. Otherwise, this looked solid. Easy yes vote.
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Uploaded to YouTube, for those who prefer watching it that way: Link to video
http://www.youtube.com/Noxxa <dwangoAC> This is a TAS (...). Not suitable for all audiences. May cause undesirable side-effects. May contain emulator abuse. Emulator may be abusive. This product contains glitches known to the state of California to cause egg defects. <Masterjun> I'm just a guy arranging bits in a sequence which could potentially amuse other people looking at these bits <adelikat> In Oregon Trail, I sacrificed my own family to save time. In Star trek, I killed helpless comrades in escape pods to save time. Here, I kill my allies to save time. I think I need help.