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Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, the arcade game, in 12:15. Except, this isn't titled 'The arcade game' because it was played in arcades, and so it was just TMNT. Its not like a Honda Civic is titled "Honda Civic, The Automobile that Drives on Roads." Anyway, rant over. As this is my first non-shining and non-rpg solo submission in 4 years, it was quite a change to do 4 players at once. However, I had determined that I wanted to do this run since I learned it was playable in FBA. I needed multi-track ability, and that didn't exist in FBA. Lua to the rescue!
note, game version is World. Unfortunately, World is not yet a submission option.
  • No Deaths
  • Takes damage to entertain
  • Plays Four Genetically-altered Humanoid Turtles
  • Used Lua (I think my submissions on this board should have this auto-tagged.)
  • Contains Speed/Entertainment Trade-offs.*

Making the run.

Multi-track scripts work by allowing the author to control each player individually, and then having the script play back movements. While I was able to create the movie doing this, it caused many headaches. All enemies alter their position, attacks, and activities based on all 4 turtles. Thus, modifying the movements of one turtle would cause another turtle's attack to miss, to happen too late, and various unpredictability.
Additionally, there is a bug in FBA's emulation of TMNT. If you load a state during a lag frame, the game freezes, while the music continues. The only way to continue is to restart the movie, which has special problems. Lag only happened in 3 places in the run, once in the sewer, and twice in the technodrome. However, due to this glitch, I almost gave up on the run twice.
Finally, there is a bug in FBA related to a pointer for music playing. When saving a state, this pointer is not saved. This means that anytime you create a savestate, it will only work for that session of FBA, and that playing of the movie. Restarting the movie, as in the lag-bug, eliminates the ability to use that savestate. Thus, I had to fast-forward to where I had been working in the run. I've probably fast-forwarded through big portions this entire movie 50 times, due to the lag bug. The frustration every time these bugs worked together was painful.

The Turtles

All turtles have a special move that can be activated by pressing attack and jump on the same frame. Mike, Don, and Leo all have the exact same special attack. Raphael, on the otherhand, has a unique special move. His rolling kick is the fastest form of movement, however it does 2 damage to the foot clan, unlike the other special moves which do 3. However, since I can move past the foot clan if they are off screen, I often use Raph's attack backwards to try and keep the screen moving forward. This is the reason Raph's kill count ends up way less than the other turtles. Additionally, he can catch-up to the other turtles using this attack.

Level 1: April's Burning Apartment

Things to watch for: A Foot solider getting hit by the big ball. Donatello takes a bullet from Rocksteady.

Level 2: The City Streets

Things to watch for: Hitting of street objects to kill Foot clan. A warp glitch which allows me to move towards the Foot faster. Mike playing around in the Sewer.

Level 3: The Sewer

This is the first time I encountered the awful lag glitch, right at the falling gate. You will notice the run becomes sloppy around that point, due to constant replays of the movie. I'm still happy with how it turned out, given the pain I went through. Also, Baxter Stockman only has 24 HP, and each special attack does 3 damage! Also, this part of the run introduces another annoyance, the Mouser holes. While usually I can push past Foot, if there are 4 or less trailing, at this point, the Mouser holes act like 8 Foot, and therefore I have to wait for 4-6 of them to exit the hole to move past it.

Level 4: The Car Lot

Another fun level where I get to play with the scenery. Watch for: The Car running over a bunch of Foot, Foot smacking into Signs, and explosions everywhere! Also, Bebop and Rocksteady is my favorite boss-battle of all time.

Level 5: The Freeway

Watch for: Riding on cars, and killing guys on motorcycles (way harder than it looks!)

Level 6: RocketSkateboard Auto-scroller

One of the more annoying levels, as the level won't change length based on the number of kills. I attempt to keep it interesting by racking up as many kills as possible.

Level 7: Save Splinter

A pretty generic level, once again the mouser holes slow me down at the beginning. I particularly enjoyed the kills right before the 'over-grown corkscrew.' Also, the boss is the first of the 3 really annoying boss battles. Lieutenant Granitor has 48 HP, and no matter what attack is used, he takes only 1 damage.

Level 8: The Technodrome

I encountered the lag glitch twice in here, once with the moving turrets, and again at the bottom of the elevator. This made me want to scream. Additionally, General Traag had 44 HP, and same 1 HP damage rule. Krang, of course, made things worse by having 60 HP/1 dmg.
Finally, Shredder. Shredder has 192 HP and 16 HP after his helmet comes off, but each special (Raph's included) does 7 damage. This means Shredder effectively requires 30 attacks. Also, Shredder is invincible while he splits, so I try and kill as few of his clones as possible, while maintaining consistent damage on him.
Seriously? 3 damage, then 1 damage, then 7? What were the programmers thinking?!?!?
(* I tagged this run with 4 player, and noted the speed vs. entertainment trade-off, because it is possible to spawn bosses with slightly less HP by having only 1 turtle alive at the time the boss comes in. However, this would require having the run be 4-player-ish-but-only-part-of-the-time. Future versions may want to use that time saver, I chose not to for the run's quality.)
Actual Suggested Screenshot:
Thanks to:
  • mz, without his work with FBA, this TAS would not exist
  • adelikat, encouraging me to finish as soon as possible
  • Sonikkustar, for his commentary.
  • FatRatKnight for the idea of using multi-track.

adelikat: Accepting for publication
Aktan: Processing...

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Some more synchronized turtle shenanigans would have been nice, but overall a wonderful run.
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btw, i used Mister Epic's encode for my previous post
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antd wrote:
btw, i used Mister Epic's encode for my previous post
Do you mean the YouTube converted encode? If so, the problems of 30 FPS and messed up VFR still exist.
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Aktan wrote:
antd wrote:
btw, i used Mister Epic's encode for my previous post
Do you mean the YouTube converted encode? If so, the problems of 30 FPS and messed up VFR still exist.
That's exactly why I'm uploading the original MKV. Right now, I'm uploading to MegaUpload (in one single link). After that, I will upload on MediaFire (in multiple RAR files of 200 MB + a DLC file for JDownloader). It's 1.15 GB big.
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antd: Thanks for the encode. It was such a deliciously artful run! Krang killed over boiled olives like dad used to make, I love it! Much thanks to my ninja TASer DarkKobold for making this run, you rock! Excellent entertainment, pure awesomeness!
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Nach wrote:
antd: Thanks for the encode.
No offense, but I was the one who encoded that. antd uploaded the YouTube processed file.
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It was hard for me to follow everything going on. But this is a technical marvel. I have to vote yes for that alone.
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This is great stuff. MUCH better then the NES version for sure. Now, who's going to do Sunset Riders (4P), X-Men (6P) and The Simpsons (4P)?
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Man, I totally played this when I was little! (I also totally sucked at it, but hey, I was little.) What a fantastic epilogue. Really entertaining run, easy yes vote.
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And I have a new and less distracting logo.
Mm, maybe not... It's still a short, quickly repeating animation that takes up much of the screen. :x
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Mister Epic wrote:
Nach wrote:
antd: Thanks for the encode.
No offense, but I was the one who encoded that. antd uploaded the YouTube processed file.
No offense taken! In actuality, if I wanted what YouTube had, I'd download the MP4 from them myself. What he did though is make it easier for others that don't know how to do that.
I myself have not even watched this run yet
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I wasn't against antd's upload. I simply want to offer people the option to get the highest quality file possible. I will do the same for the Castlevania run.
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Mm, maybe not... It's still a short, quickly repeating animation that takes up much of the screen. :x
That's the first complain of this kind. After 4 more, I will change.
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Great Movie. It is especially fun to watch after comparing to it an unassisted 4-player playthrough seen here.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mMq8j6QNzc I do have a question though... why are there pizzas sitting in the middle of the highway and in the Technodrome?!?!?!
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I congratulate you, DarkKobold. This was most amazing.
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I used to play this game on the arcade long ago. Possible improvement (?) : I had found a bug that works in the arcade when i was a kid Stage 2 after the girl on the skateboard passes, you start going in a (sorta) vertical street. You can strangely kill the enemies in that place with a simple diving kick. You can also do the following : From the top of the street start spamming down + attack like crazy. The turtle with start going down and attacking, but the camera will start going to the right, until your turtle gets inside the bulding from which the enemies are coming from. ONce there you can experiment many things, your turtle starts moving VERY fast and you can even see the boss in the top of the building before it comes to fight you. Anyways, with this you can at least skip all the enemies before the boss. Another bug wildely known (but maybe not useful in a speedrun) is that when you are standing on an edge (exactly on the edge) enemies won't attack you. Places where u can do this : Stage 2 where u get the pizza, The sewers and also stage 4 next ot the first explosive barrel. Skateboard stage ; you can actually pass this stage without killing many enemies. just keep on dodging attacks, then kill the enemies after sometime passes (the same time that passed in this run). That's all the stuff i remember about this game. hope it helps. I was pretty good at this game. but the best achievement i could do was reaching Shredder with one credit. This game gets insanely harder and harder as long as you don't lose a life (instead o fighting 2 of .. say, machine gun robots, you face 10 of those ..... =_=) each enemy gets multiplicated until it gets impossible to gets passed them.
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Mister Epic: Thanks for the encode. Great run DarkKobold :)
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Chaos in a half shell! Is the volume difference between the music and the voices supposed to be so great? The music was incredibly muted.
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Ferret Warlord wrote:
Chaos in a half shell! Is the volume difference between the music and the voices supposed to be so great? The music was incredibly muted.
I have no idea, but I noticed this as well. I tried my best to find a way to up the volume, but found nothing. According to Nach, he said he remembers the real arcade being the same. Oh well.
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Aktan: Thanks for the encode. Yes, I actually downloaded and watched it. Now why are they looking for the Technodrome in the Technodrome? Those Teenage Mutant Pizza Turtles sure are strange. DarkKobold: Fantastic job, kept me entertained throughout. Going to do Turtles in Time? That'd be even more amazing.
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sonicpacker wrote:
If I could vote yes more than once, I would for this movie.
You should have a chat with andrewg about that. Thread #9125.
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I've been watching TAS's on this site for a long time now, but only recently (this week) created an account for the site. I can't think of a reason to turn down this run, so while I can't actually vote at the top of the thread, consider this my Yes vote.
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Excellent run, DK. Yes vote. @Aktan: Your mp4 encode had the "video ahead of the audio on a PS3" problem again.
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boct1584 wrote:
Excellent run, DK. Yes vote. @Aktan: Your mp4 encode had the "video ahead of the audio on a PS3" problem again.
And again, you are suppose to download the streaming version. I do hope you remember next time as it is getting a bit tiring tell you this.