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Submission #6838: DreamYao's NES Batman "no kills, lowest score" in 09:39.83

Console: Nintendo Entertainment System
Game name: Batman
Game version: USA
ROM filename: Batman (U) [!].nes
Branch: no kills, lowest score
Emulator: FCEUX 2.20.20
Movie length: 09:39.83
FrameCount: 34847
Re-record count: 20825
Author's real name:
Author's nickname: DreamYao
Submitter: DreamYao
Submitted at: 2020-08-08 08:43:52
Text last edited at: 2021-10-07 04:03:49
Text last edited by: DreamYao
Download: Download (7053 bytes)
Status: decision: rejected
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Lowest score

No killing

Aim for fastest completion

Found some shortcomings of the last time, made some improvements, 5.02 seconds faster than the last time, saving 302 frames

Batman No Killing

No Killing is not like a highway. We can't use weapons, we can't solve most of the lag.


I found a vulnerability in 3-2. The previous frame of the game can take off in the air, saving 9 frames.

5-1 game can be suspended without damage (discovered by xxnkxx)


Usually the enemy needs two punches to kill him so you can hit him without getting hurt

5-1 the climbing platform can be rotated to save jumping time

Climbing walls can take off one frame ahead of time, so climbing in some places can save one frame

If you can't jump, try not to jump, it will increase the time.

If you want to jump, the higher you jump, the better. The big jump is 2 frames faster than the small jump.

The premise of the big jump is that Batman's head can't touch anything, otherwise it will shorten the distance and time of the jump.

Some landing sites can meet and land quickly to save time, such as 2-3

arkiandruski: I suppose I can claim this for judging, since I've already got a start looking at it.

arkiandruski:Optimization for the run looks good.

Thank you for your submission. Unfortunately, this run doesn't differ itself from the published run enough to warrant publishing in a separate branch, so I'm afraid I will have to reject it for goal choice. More info can be found in my post here. Also, the goal itself caused some controversy. A few people didn't like that Batman was still attacking enemies in a supposedly pacifist run.

As for the lowest score add-on, changing the goal without changing the movie rarely accomplishes anything unless it's done for the purposes of adding clarity. We allow crazy and weird goals on this site, but when that happens, judgment is based on the resulting movie with the goals only being a mechanism to have the movie produced. It's also questionable whether the goal was accomplished, as outlined here.

Please don't let this discourage you from continuing to make TASes. I recommend asking for feedback while working on future runs. You can upload works in progress to the Movie storage space and post on or forums, or ask for help on our discord server. If you are uncomfortable with English, this is an international site, so there's a good chance someone will be able to communicate with you in a language you're more comfortable with.

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