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jlun2 wrote:
Actually, he wrote this:
If you are talking about the currently published 20 minute movie, this will have to obsolete it. It is the same glitch done better. More importantly the currently published movie has been proven invalid! It relied on the fact that saving takes 2 frames, and so reset can happen after one frame and corrupt memory. But it only takes 2 frames because snes9x is inaccurate in its emulation, it should only take 1, thus sub-frame reset would be required to corrupt ram.
So the prevoius movie is INVALID!
which to me translates as: “what he did with a frame could’ve been done with a sub-frame”, and if you want to invalid a movie simply on a small timing mistake, then I think the whole site would need to be shut down :\ no emulator is perfect and none might ever be… they’re bound to have a few small timing mistakes, but as long as everything done on an emulator is actually possible (even with slightly different timing), then the movie is legitimate in my opinion
obviously if adelikat actually meant that what’s done in the 20′ run is impossible on console no matter the circumstances, what I just said is moot (and the run should be removed from the site, or something)
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abyrvalg wrote:
Previous run shouldn't exist in the first place, because it's based on emulation errors, if i interpreted adelikat's post correctly.
I think adelikat just meant that the save corruption timing would've been different on an accurate emulator, not that the whole movie is due to emulation inaccuracy...
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moozooh wrote:
By the way, I don't think this should obsolete the NewGame+ run because the NG+ one beats the game in (semi-)conventional way, final boss and all, doesn't use the same glitches, and is remarkably different from any other kind of run.
they both use save corruption, I don't see how the same glitch used suboptimally grants a new category
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Er, yes it does?
If the signal reaches the emulator, it is recorded. If it doesn't, it means it didn't reach the emulator in the first place. If that happens, blame something in the chain of "keyboard—port—driver—OS".
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inichi wrote:
Turska, thank you for adding me as a co-author of the submission movie. It's good to see my demo smvs can see the light of day by the emulator advance. However, the movie has two unoptimized sections compared to my demo.
Crono's house
You can move farther before Mom talks to Crono.
Leene's Bell
When you return the pendant to Marle, Crono and Marle must be on the same pixel. Otherwise an extra waiting time occurs when Marle joins in Crono.
I wish I could fix them, but I've been away from TASing for almost two years and I've never used Lsnes. It would be nice if you can fix them.
inichi is back!!! O_O
those were the two things I thought turska might've done better, as in talking to Mom before you did and same thing with Marle, but your explanation for Marle makes sense (I don't get it with Mom though) edit: ah, is it a scripted event and I thought wrong?
it's good to see you back, where have you been? you should make a glitchless TAS... :(
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Derakon wrote:
I think it's entirely reasonable to list him as a coauthor; he deserves credit for figuring out the strategy even if none of his input survives in the finished version.
that’s a good point, I’ve always thought that if I ever actually finished an AWDS TAS I’d list as a co-author my partner; he does no TASing, but almost everything related to RNG manipulation and general game knowledge, also (probably) strategy inputs come from him
and the above has made me wonder about another point: what happens if you list an author that’s not a registered nickname on TASV?
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adelikat wrote:
Alaktorn, you are misinterpreting the Rule change about region. The U version is preferred first of all. Second of all, the region differences are NOT a factor in comparing times. There is no "time saved" by using the J ROM as far as the site is concerned. And runs will NOT be rejected by failing to use the faster J ROM. I expect any good judge would disregard a no vote based on this reason.
I had misunderstood the rule change, but US text didn’t seem to hold any importance in this movie for me, so I might vote no either way; feel free to ignore it
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I’ve been watching this and inichi’s movie back and forth a few times, and this looks good; maybe even better. but I have one question: would the JP ROM be faster? if so, I’m tempted to vote “no”…
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what do you mean “EVIL IS BACK”? if you’re having trouble with the boss (or even if you aren’t), could I have the .dsm? I’m curious to try it myself, but can’t promise anything
edit: btw, how did the conversion go? slower or faster?
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FractalFusion wrote:
ALAKTORN wrote:
FractalFusion wrote:
it's not like the author can just merely change the ending.
I was under the impression he could…?
Not getting Lilli means not getting Lilli in the Trauare stage, which is somewhere halfway through the run. Everything beyond that point would have to be changed.
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Derakon wrote:
Of course, functionally people are most likely to be using their browsers' search functionality to find a specific game on the page.
I never even considered something outside of that. if you know what you’re looking for, why would you not just type it out?
I thought this was for readability when you don’t know whether a game is present or not and are unsure of spelling, but alphabetical ordering makes it easy to find no matter the format of listing, be it CSV or with a line break… I really don’t see the point
