Posts for Banarak
Post subject: Kingdom Hearts:Chain of Memories
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Well, I've turned into a huge Kingdom Hearts fan again. Too many hours of my life has been sucked away into this series. Currently I'm working my way through Sora's story, almost at the end on my cart (I've finished 1 and 2 on PS2, with about 180 hours total combined). Thing is, while it's a good tie in, really the best thing about this game is the story (IMHO). Obvesially, it would be skipped. The "second quest" sounds like a really fun part to TAS, not relying on building a great deck since you don't add any cards but boss cards. That would need an SRAM with the game finished however. But before I really start cranking out progress on either quest, the general gameplay is to start the level, use a map cards to make a random rooms until the boss, beat the boss, go up (or down) a floor, then rinse and repeat. Combat would be avoided as much as possible to keep the speed high. Challenging yes, entertaining? Ehhh, I'd love to see it, but if your not a fan I think it would be really boring. =( Should I continue to consider this run or does this fall into the "Game is too boring to TAS" area? I don't know how many people here enjoy the series enough to want to watch the psuedo card game blown through.
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There was an awards forum idea? I'm not sure about any of that (somewhat new still, remember)... I'm just imagining animated flashing/glowing stars for the cream of the crop, and 2-3 other colored ones for those which are exceptional. To me, it would make it easier to pick out what movies are really worth watching I may have missed, as opposed to sifting through the system lists and just guessing. I've got a lot of respect for the people here and their opinions on whats good and whats not, I think having a more in-depth recommendation system would go a long way. (Yay for my 3rd, 4th and 5th posts!) =)
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And since I didn't bring it up, but it seems like a pretty hot topic... Time. All depends on how much I have. Personally, it dosen't matter to me if a movie is extremely short with glitches or a long 100% run. If I know the game from past experience, chances are very high I'll end up watching the run at some point. Of course, if I'm browsing the site 30 minutes before I leave for work, I'm not going to start watching an hour long video, but chances are I'd download it and look forward to watching it when I get home. The only time length can be a problem (IMHO) is when it gets repetative. But then again, it's not repetative if the entertainment value is there, and if it's not, why does it have a star in the first place? But I'm an RPG nut, so I don't mind putting an hour into watching a movie for a game that took me 30+ hours to beat. Any straight out leveling parts I'd fast forward through, but I'd still enjoy the movie. Platform/Action games are the same - if it's normally 5 hours to play an any% to completion, I'd watch a 45min any% and enjoy myself. About the only other thing to add to this is *very* fast runs don't hold my interest. I'm thinking Monopoly here. Sure it's less then a minute download, but it's not really a technical masterpiece of a game. I'll admit I've spent at least an hour reading all the submission comments of the 10+ movies that have surpassed each other, and most of the forum posts for those as well - and really enjoyed the "battle" the people here were having to up each other, but the game is just too boring for me to really feel it's that much of an accomplishment. It's one of those where whats going on behind the scenes is much more interesting then watching it play out... and just by watching the less then a minute run dosen't do justice to how much effort really went into finding the ultimate luck manipulation to make the die rolls so perfect and have the best outcome. When I read the last submission used a custom made program to find the perfect timings with the random number generator, I was very impressed at the dedication. But I still won't waste a minute of my time watching a computer have the worst luck on the planet... an hour long game with my family would me much more entertaining to me. And slightly off topic - how many posts *does* it take to be able to vote on movies? At the rate I'm going, I might be able to start making my own voice heard sometime late 2007/early 2008 at this rate. =) It was asked earlier, but never replied to in this 9 page thread. I probably missed it somewhere else on the site though.
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More insight from a "relative" newcomer to the site... Umihara Kawase I'd never watch... well maybe one day I'm *really* bored, but it just seems so off the wall. I've seen the pages with the maps for the game and done my research, but overall it's just... meh to me. Bionic Commando was one of my favorite games back in the 8-bit day, beating it tons of times. Being jewish as well, I don't fault the Jap version, after all I'm here to watch TAS'es, not be offended by the graphics programmers put in the game so long ago. The TAS player isin't the artistic inspiration of the game, so why hold them accountable? I'd still rather see a more well known game starred over a very unknown one. I *bought* Dragon Warrior when it came out, got another copy from Nintendo Power which I loaned to friends to compete with, and finished the game over 6 times throught the years on many platforms (NES/Emu/GBC basically). I've watched the TAS about 8 times as well - in terms of luck manipulation, it's absolutely fantastic. It remains one of the most watched videos at my house, along with the Zelda 2 by Gigafrost. I haven't checked, but just from how well known the game is, IMHO it should have had a star a long time ago. On to the star debate, let me throw this at you... If stars are "awards" for being something new people should watch, how is that different from Video Game Awards? You've got Spike awards, magazine awards (many of them), G4 awards (I think)... and in all those, how many just have 1 catagory, "Game of the Year"? I'm wondering why there aren't more catagories for the stars on this site... many videos have many different qualities that can make them suitable for newcombers, maybe it's time to expand a little bit? Imagine this... you have a top-20 list. 20 Games total, ranked on "overall impressiveness", taking into consideration every single facet that makes the video great. You never have more then 20, and as new movies are made, the list can change. Have a page that lists them off the main page. Now, add another sub-catagory off that... Instead of "Must See", have "Exceptionally Played", and give them... I don't know a blue or red star. Here, you can have as many as you want, but they *must* be a contender in some way for a star, and they at least have 1 redeeming quality that really makes it stand out on it's own. Add the reason to the description, and bam, everyone is happy. I did like the idea to have a section where "If you liked this movie, also see..." is added to games with more then one contender. Make another sub-catagory of stars with a different color, or just add it to the descriptions. For my own experience, I lurked for about a week before I even pulled up the star page, then watched probably 75% of the ones listed. It did feel like it was a bit long and packed with movies, to agree with Bisquit on that. I don't think it's a reason not to give "awards" to other videos as well played though. If the site did have these "sections" of stars, I'm sure I would work my way through all of the lists in time, just out of interest. Start with the top 20 (or even 10?), then go through the "Honorable Mentions", then check the "Also see..." lists. But thats two cents from a noob. =P On to more typical behavior for one with the status I carry... OMG there is a less then 5 minute Zelda:ALttP video? How did I manage to miss THAT all this time?? Time to go kill a couple more hours watching videos, starting with that. =)
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2nd post. Woot! Glad to hear that this wasen't recieved by "we are too UBER to need thx" flames.... seriously, guys pat yourselves on the back. There are a lot of us out here that are lovin it. Personally (not like any of you care) I just lost a partner of 2.5 years. So I'll have some free time on my hands. Probably to Code, work and TAS. ;) Maybe as a tribute to her when I get my skills even close to some of the gods on the site, I'll play the 2 games that brought us together to begin with. And Aqfaq, I've got one in the works. I'm just still so slow working the tools and orginizating what can be improved that it's gonna take me months. And on a game I don't think many would want to see published. At first I went for Magician Lord (I used to beat that on a quarter in the arcade years ago) but then learned the save-state-reset-on-play thing would keep it from getting submitted. Not to mention the NeoCD version I practice on my PSP is for some reason INCREDABLY HARDER then the original arcade. Plus frame advance/slowdown/savestates I can't quite figure out on there. So I moved to... Super Hydlide. I love this game so much, and it's such a STUPID game. But the music, the numbers behind it all... it's my attempt. If someone dosen't beat me. Which please do, I can't imagine my old record on the cart of 20+ hours is the fastest. But route planning, the wierd way menu scrolling works (3 frame offset to see your change? is that right?)... it's just been fun to see how fast I can level dropping the coin by the lake so far -thats my skills with about 4 hours of practice. I'll do it someday for myself even if I don't submit it. But yes, Banarak will be on the list at one time. =) Thanks for backing all this up guys - my point is to thank you though for all the amazing videos. And now I've got 2 days worth to catch up on, take it easy it's movie time. =) (BTW that Double Dragon 1 I saw yesterday after the post blew my mind. I remember spending like 20 minutes just punching people to level up to elbow to even try to get through it, and just watching him perfect kill everything while still being one heart from max at the end... wow.) But then again, they all blow my mind. TAS FOREVER! =)
Post subject: Thank you all.
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Yeah, I'm a lurker. I've been watching the site almost daily for a few months now. I'll admit it - I'm addicted. 1st post I think. I've learned about mastering a game to absolute perfection, and seen amazing examples of how superhuman input can completely obliterate games I've played before. I've seen ungodly amounts of bugs that I never knew existed, and I don't think I've ever been more astonished watching people "TAS" so many games I know on a personal level over the last 20+ years. Yeah, you can't have this perfection on a console. But with a stretch of the imagination and one hell of a dose of luck, it could happen. And maybe a modified controller. Ok, Ok, I know it "can't" happen. But what would the best ever run of a game even look like? Maybe... a TAS? Every single video I've seen, regardless of the forum feedback, has been great. I'd list them here and point out why I love each one, but if you've been here... you know. You should have a slew of favorites and your own input/ideas on a lot of them too. Thank you all for some of the best entertainment I've had over the last few months, and I'm sure to have for a much longer time after that. I'd say names (Bisqwit at least for running the site) but really, every single person that makes this idea alive just rocks. All the different personalities, the styles... it shows through. The individual runner is responsible for this amazing achievement on some kids long ago pastime, and if you follow the runners submissions, you can see their playstyle, or "depth of character". But thank you all... please never stop proving the impossible. =) P.S. They really should have some sort of semi-serious award for this. (Even if poking fun that your "the best" at something when the circumstances are under your control.)