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Thank you Mr. DJ I really hope we can just edit the Hyrule Field part after I am done with the game. That would be so much more easier and less time consuming.
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Ohhhhhhh.... so you already need a magic meter. K. So we HAVE to go to the fairy at the top of DMT? Too bad I dont have the BoF to get to the top of the mountain faster/easier. What about going to the Fairy by Hyrule Castle after I learn the lullaby? If I can do this, I will be in Hyrule Field after the cutscene, enter the Market, blow up the boulder at the dead end by the guards. Okay, for the post at the top with the WIP, dont do the savestate and just play the movie back in full. I feel like the Fairy at DMT is the most inconvienence. But, I can also blow up the wall to the entrance rather than climbing the mountain. FEEDBACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I thought you need Zelda's song to play in front of the fountain, then you get the magic meter.
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With the blackout screen between places (e.g. Kokiri Forest and Hyrule Field), is there sound in the black screen? If there is no sound, can you just match up the finished .avi with the new .avi of Hyrule Field with the owl skip up until the screen at Guerdo Valley? Like a layover for that few minutes. Also, I put a WIP up on my earlier post to see if the desynch doesnt exist. I can play the movie back perfect so I dont know what the deal is. 1 thing for sure is that if I do get to Zelda from DMT, it will be damn close when the wolf howls. Also, has anyone confirmed if going to the Fairy outside Jabu Jabu will give me a magic meter?
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Can we hex edit the owl scene? Like from entering Hyrule to entering Guerdo. Nothing from Hyrule to Guerdo is used (Deku Sticks, Slingshot) so that the game will still have the same amount in inventory. This will save a good 20 seconds from the owl talking. If we can hex edit, it would have to be when I am finished with the entire run, correct? Also, my run works perfect entirely through and I have tested it several times fully through, but I guess it desynchs at the next owl text by the Castle. Ill re-submit my run and see if you can view it. http://download.yousendit.com/5C2E9554228D8405 Hopefully this works.
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YautjaElder wrote:
Still wondering why you didn't skip the owl outside kokiri forest.
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Well, we can get the bottle after helping the lady in KV with getting all her cucoos. Here is from Spirit Temple to Death Mountain Trail :) Where will it end? Okay, question is... Should I go to Great Fairy on Death Mountain now? This might kill time until next sunrise and give me time to get over to Zelda during the day. Or, if I can go to any other fairies since I have bombs (Zoras Domain, Hyrule Field) and get my Magic Meter there. Where is mwl, acryte, aka, and the rest of my team? Here ya go --> http://download.yousendit.com/202A147121DE61E7 If you want, make 2 .mkv files. From Spirit to death and from Links house to Death Mountain Trail after Boss.
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update coming soon.
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Its not an .avi if that is what you are referring to.
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Maybe a little early but ----> http://download.yousendit.com/F89D1FA3243BBA46 What to say.... 1. I liked the angles I was going. I think thats all.... Now. For the bottle adventure here is what Acryte has in his youtube video details: HOW TO DO BOTTLE ADVENTURE: 1. Deplete Deku Stick Supply to 0 (Ghoma (Deku Tree), Statue (Spirit), King Dodongo (Dodongo Cavern)) 2. Get fish in bottle (In Zora’s Domain after Jabu) 3. Plant Bean in lake hylia (When should this be done?)  I can get the silver scale pretty fast and escape from there to plant the bean 4. Become Adult 5. Go get hoverboots early (In Forest Temple) 6. Beat Forest temple (To get rid of shiek) 7. Ride beanplant to Fisherman's Pond 8. Go Fishing (20 rupees) (Anibus should drop this) (If not, boulder in DMT) 9. Equip Hover + cast fishing line (v1.0 only) (In Fisherman’s Pond) 10. Move to door w/ line cast 11. Go back towards ToT (Take owl for fastest way, if it wont allow owl, backwalk) 12. In Hyrule Field,(Not in Lake Hylia) pause and unpause. This puts Deku Stticks on B [DON'T PRESS B!!!] 13. Empty bottled fish and catch it again (In Hyrule Field) 14. Do backflip and then press bottle button and then B before you hit the ground. (puts bottle on B) (In Hyrule Field) 15. Go to ToT 16. Put fish on c-right and make sure Deku Nuts aren't equipped (not sure but to be safe). (Inside ToT) 17. Become child 18. Become Adult (light arrows are now on B) 19. Perform Ganon Early (bomb-boosted hover method since you don't have a sword for swordglitch method) 20. Perform Ganon's Tower Skip w/ bomb 21. Use bottle to reflect the energy ball 22. Hit him w/ light arrow 23. Pause and equip sword. 24. Hold him down w/ attacks (easiest w/ quickspins) till he is dead in 1 cycle. whether you need magic or not is still untested but since it drains the bar my guess is yes. Video Found Here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtnc_wxBjwE&NR DIRECT ROUTE: 1. Spirit (Get bombchu's, and kill yourself). You need RoS to teleport outside and die. 2. SAVE/QUIT 3. Kokiri Forest 4. Lost Woods 5. Goron City to Dondongo's (get bomb bag). Take out King Dodongo. (See if you can glitch through the ground and get into the Boss Room with a bomb. 6. Hyrule Castle (learn lullaby) 7. Lon Lon Ranch (get bottle from cucco game to deflect thunderbolts) 8. Zora's river (blow boulder, grab cucco to bypass waterfall. Also, buy magic bean for later) 9. Zora's Domain (Skip King Zora and get into Jabu Jabu with roll) 10. Jabu (There should be two bombchu's left although only one is needed since bombs are available) 11. Get silver scale in minigame and exit to Lake Hylia. (Ill try some tricks and see if I can get to Lake Hylia without getting the scale. This would save some time). Plant bean, take owl to Hyrule Field. (Can the cutscene appear for Ganon and Zelda if I take the owl? Also, can the fairy at death mountain be avoided by going to the fairy in Hyrule Field?) If so, go to her and then to the ToT. If this doest work. Follow like below. *12. Kill yourself after planting the bean in Lake Hylia *13. SAVE/QUIT *14. Kokiri *15. Lost woods *16. Death Mountain *17. Magic Fairy *18. Take owl and follow on from there *19. Hyrule *20. Ganondorf Cutscene *21. Temple of Time * mean that it wont exist if #11 is correct. Adult Route 1. Temple of Time 2. GraveYard (get hookshot) 3. Shadow (Get hover boots and exit) 4. Kakariko 5. Death Mountain *If necessary, Great Fairy as an adult) 6. Goron City 7. Lost Woods 8. Forest Temple (Complete Forest Temple. Get the bow and boss Key. Try glitching into the room below and levatating up to the elavator might be worth trying) <-- Suggestion from someone 9. Kokiri 10. Lake Hylia (going to the domain and glitching under the ice might be worth trying) <-- Suggestion from someone 11. Steal Rod 12. Then do #'s 8-18 in the How To Do The Bottle Adventure part above. 13. Temple of Time 14. Ganon's Castle (Seam walk and then superslide and then enter Ganon Castle) 15. Ganons Tower (enter spirit chamber collect all jewels and kill the beamos to get an additional 5 bombs, hit diamond and collect 20 bombchus) 16. Ganon's Central Tower (use bombs bombchu's and explosives to beat all three rooms) 17. Ganondorf (use bottle to deflect thunderbolt and then pause and equip sword) Then you can continue as normal after that
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Getting somewhere now. Will post after New Years.
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still desynch's. Only happens at places like the owl or grabbing the chicken. Kinda sucks.
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AngerFist, you truly are Magnifisticant!!! Looks great, great, great!
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quick question. Would getting bombchu's and chu's only work if you did the reverse bottle trick for more bombchu's? Or bombs, cause I need bombs for supersliding... EDIT: This might save time from going somewhere to obtain bombs, or whatever.... I'll work on some OoT :)
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What about most obsoleted run? That would be interesting to see a statistic on.......
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Well, dealing with this piece of desynch. I dont know what to do anymore. I have literally got past the owl 5 times and everytime I play back the movie, the god damn son of a bitch flies a different direction. I have jumped over the gate 3 times to come to realize that I have to go back and see if that owl wants to fly the right way. I might be throwing this away because of desynch issues. If this game doesnt get thrown out, to answer the time question. I am saying that this game will be done in sub 1 hour 55 minutes :) That means, skipping at least 6-8 cutscenes that last 30 seconds to a couple of minutes. skipping the 2 temples I went to last time. Its all science.
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As of right now, I am 7370 frames faster. My pinpoint is the sidehop after crossing the quicksand in Haunted Wasteland. to set as a marker. My other time when I die at Spirit Temple is 34:10 or frame ~122760 I believe. I could be wrong I am doing really well on angles now. I am barely clipping corners and that maybe loses a frame at the most. WIP from Deku Tree --> Spirit Temple http://download.yousendit.com/E67505EF6C9CF418 ~2 min. 5 seconds ahead. Should be ~4 1/2 - 5 minutes ahead after spirit temple is complete.
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found somthing interesting. When supersliding off a peahat, I found out that if you let go of Z & R after the superslide has been complete, link will either a) if too close, go back to the plant he was trying to grab... (no video, sorry) b) if far enough, Link will go through the ground.. http://download.yousendit.com/007185533D4E01EA c) if too far, nothing will happen What needs to be tested right now is: 1) Bottom of the Well: Can you do this to get the bombs you need? 2) Dodongos Cavern: Go through the ground and fight the boss?
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too bad bombchu bowling isnt available yet.
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anyway of jumpslashing through a wall or something or jumpslashing in/through the part where the bombs are?
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but you needs bombs in botw right?
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wait, so am I going to ST? If I can get into the bottom of the well for bombs, then there is no point in the ST, right? I am confused..........sadly.
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So, dumb questions from the author...... 1. What path are we using? 2. Is mwl still updating the progress site? I am in Hyrule Field about to SS off a peahat. We need to break down the Spirit Temple and see if anything can be glitched through/manipulated. If not that, then Dodongo's cavern as well as Jabu Jabu needs to be well read. For Jabu: I think I should skip picking up Princess Ruto, grab a fish, and use that for getting the boomerang. This leaves the dialogue time down. After getting the boomerang, go back and bomb boost (if Princess Ruto is not grabbed, can you grab and throw a box instead?) Or if the fish still exists, then use that on the next switch. If this is wrong. Please correct.
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What would be the average star pick-up time? Im guessing how fast some stars are picked up, e.g. 10 seconds, and other stars (1 minute), the average star pick-up time would be close to 30, 35 seconds.
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Well, Phil. Looks like this isnt being done and I would like to do help/finish it. 2 Player T&F is needed for a boost in highest score possible.
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