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Posted: 7/14/2009 10:36 AM

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however, it is actually 6 pounds as child :P

Posted: 7/7/2009 6:03 PM

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every skip apart from BAing is awesome :P

Posted: 7/7/2009 3:24 PM

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no, kuwaga you can either RBA arrows or the quiver. with ruto's letter you RBA for arrows and with cojiro you RBA for the quiver. if you RBA for arrows, you get 20-30 items (up to the item in the bottle, when you RBA), but as you have no quiver, the arrow count goes down to 0 after shooting one arrow if you RBA for the quiver, you can use as many arrows as you want. we would get cojiro and RBA the quiver, then we buy a few arrows from the shop in kakariko and beat forest temple by going into the second room and doing the boss key skip discovered by unreal: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOl9TnWxCx8 fire temple would immediately use this trick after entering the temple: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxJNes3c5hg makes the whole thing a bit boring, doesn't it? and the main reason, why I'm definately going to use the DoT skip is, that I want to create a very different run than bloob's one. if I wouldn't use it, the only differences would be: - my dodongo's cavern head skip - unreal's forest temple boss key skip instead of acryte's old one bloob used - my fire temple boss key skip - slingshot skip not really worth for doing a TAS in my opinion, that takes 6-8 month to do

Posted: 7/5/2009 10:19 PM

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this is all maybe confusing, but there's no way DC isn't quicker as child. The temple itself is as fast as child and adult. the way from kokiri to zora's river is pretty much the same like DC to river, so all the time added is the trip from kokiri to DC. All the superslides save more time than the trip to DC costs ;) Deku as adult is the quickest child temple to beat as adult. After forest you end up in front of the tree, so entering the temple as adult is only 10 seconds slower than as child. 5 of those 10 seconds are saved by using the hookshot inside of the Temple. but the main reason is, that it skips the 1 minute deku tree cutscene ;) I end up directly next to the tree after the forest temple. going to water and back to deku costs more time than climbing both vines in deku tree with the hookshot. AKA, as the rupee route is just a pain to do and takes a lot of time, that could be invested into other stuff, I asked SL, if I could use the rupee route of the RBA run. He allowed me to use it, but I don't know, what you think about it. If you agree SL, it would be cool, if you could upload it somewhere and send me the link in a private message.

Posted: 7/5/2009 9:00 PM
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here's the new ocarina of time all temples route (feedback wanted, but read the stuff down at this post) I think, it is best, when I write down the All Temples TAS route, so you can have a look, if there are improvements or mistakes in it ;) child Section - Intro - Rupee Route with stick, escape with Water Jumpslash ESS, Get Ocarina - Skip Owl, SS to Gerudo Valley, Coccu Jump, to Spirit Temple, Get Requiem - Beat Enemys and light Torches, Mega Flip to skip Slingshot, Kill Anubis, Get Key - Get Deku Nuts, Go to Bombchu room, Lizafos Hover, Death Warp, Go to Dodongo's Cavern (8 Bombchus) - Beat Dodongo's Cavern with new Head Skip (4 Chus) (7 Bombs) - SS to Kakariko, SS out of Kakariko, SS to Zora's River, Bomb to blow up boulders, Get 15 Bombs from Plants, SS with bomb past Owl, Get Bean Do the rest like I did in my Zora's River TAS (4 Chus) (14 Bombs) - SS and ESS combination to King Zora, Mega Flip to get past King Zora, Jabu without a Fish (3 Chus) (12 Bombs) - Go to Ruto, Bring her up to the Boomerang Room, Kill Enemys, Get Boomerang, Ruto to Switch, Mega Flip to Skip Octo, Bombchu to Switch, Kill Barinade, Get Heart Container, Warp to Spirit Temple, Plant Bean, Death Warp via Ocarina Damage Trick (2 Chus) (9 Bombs) - Escape again with SS, SS to Market, Get 40 Rupees from bridge, to Hyrule Castle area, Owl Skip, Mega Flip (just to save a bit time), Seam Walk, SS, Moat Skip with Bomb (4 Chus) (4 Bombs) - Go to Zelda, Lullaby cutscence skip, 80 Rupees from Bridge, Buy Hylian Shield, Dot Skip, Get adult I have no time to write down the Adult route now, but the temple order is: Shadow, Forest, Deku, Fire, Water, Spirit Stuff down on this page: - DC as child is quicker, because of all the Superslide we can do - Deku as adult skips the cutscene, when you get to the deku area, what makes it quicker - Doing child temples as adult skips the ganondorf cutscence - Getting Bombchus from Spirit Temple is a little bit quicker than getting them from the well and it is also cooler[/b]

Posted: 6/24/2009 4:27 PM

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Derakon wrote:

Mm, there's a stark difference between "This is my first effort at a TAS; what do you think?" and "I'm submitting this TAS to be published on the site." Doing the latter as your very first action on the site is likely to make you some enemies (unless you actually legitimately made a good run, of course).

I'd say, the reason, why he posted his run is, that we tell him, how to improve his run, which strategys he should have choosen instead etc. he never said, that he want his run to be published on this site. back to the actual topic: nice work kyman and the guy, who discovered the strategy. is mrrobertz still working on the 120 start TAS?

Posted: 6/23/2009 5:53 PM

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thanks the old way is probably quicker for TAS conditions, so no need to re-do the whole child section of the RBA TAS WIP. might be quicker for a non-TAS run, though

Posted: 6/23/2009 5:42 PM

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7mr6mHKI4A&feature=channel_page new way to escape the forest. might be useful for a RBA TAS

Posted: 6/21/2009 8:58 PM

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for MM, it wouldn't look so much different, we would only do less trips to the bomb shop and some other small changes

Posted: 6/21/2009 2:36 AM

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how real men beat great bay temple: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXgcQY0WYxg

Posted: 6/17/2009 9:27 PM

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we simply change the chu and the bomb from the woods and the HISS to GB :P

Posted: 6/17/2009 12:54 PM

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no, sadly not you need at least about 38 frames or at least something like this to roll after the shoot, but there are only 21 or something and thanks, that you like my stuff :)

Posted: 6/16/2009 6:53 AM

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yep, a little bit we don't get the rupees in the lost woods anymore and we use a bombchu hyper endless superslide in the lost woods pirate's fortress TAS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2GoF2Gqvwk&feature=channel_page

Posted: 6/15/2009 1:02 PM

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JSmith wrote:

MrGrunz wrote:
I've noticed, that Gyorg is actually a bad way to damage link, because you're in the water. if I remember right, you loose control over link for 2-3 seconds for each hit, so alltogether, we would loose there 5-6 seconds. any idea for a better place to damage link?
We have a spare bomb, right? Why can't we just drop a bomb during the Wizrobe battle timed to blow us up immediately afterwards? (bonus: we get to FISS off it)

forward infinite superslides aren't as quick as normal backwalking, what makes the whole FISS thing pointless.

Posted: 6/14/2009 4:12 PM

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I've noticed, that if you get hit by an enemy in one of the tanks and you're close to the ledge, link grabs the ledge earlier. I tryed to manipulate the enemy, but I wasn't able to. swordless should be able to do it. if so, we could actually use damage to our advantage ;)

Posted: 6/14/2009 10:18 AM

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the fairy fountain takes too much time to refil hearts if we don't want to go through half an hour of beeping, we have to have at least 1 3/4 hearts, because we get half an heart of damage at the wizrobe battle. I highly doubt, that we'll have 1 3/4 hearts, but I'll test it. the best thing is, that swordless breaks all 3 pots after playing the sonata, because he gets the stick and the nuts from them anyways, so he can manipulate the fairy from the 3rd pot to fly directly next to him, so he doesn't loose any time. I've noticed, that Gyorg is actually a bad way to damage link, because you're in the water. if I remember right, you loose control over link for 2-3 seconds for each hit, so alltogether, we would loose there 5-6 seconds. any idea for a better place to damage link?

Posted: 6/13/2009 11:47 PM

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And again the finished route brought to you by MrGrunz, Slowking and Azorae: First Cycle get 2r at the very beginning on your sidehop route to the wooden stumps (2r) hear grandmas storys twice and dance with the scarecrow, deposit the 2r get to ECT, do a full run through termina field to WCT (101r) get to ECT, get fairy, do half a run through termina field to NCT, get 99r from 36 bushes, get magic, deposit the rupees (200r) get to clock tower, wait for 12 O'clock, get ocarina and SoT, timetravel Second Cycle Hit CT Owl, Withdraw 200R, Buy Bomb Bag + 20 Chus (70R) (20B) (20C) ISG-ISS to Fence, Pull out Bomb while Sliding, Hover over Fence with Bomb and Chu, Let Chu explode on fence and HISS with it to GB (18B) (18C) ISS to Water, Hit Owl, Get Zora Mask, Play SoDT, Leaver Slide to South Bay (17B) (18C) Flying Zora to Fountain, Blow up Rock with Chu, New Fairy Fountain Strat (13B) (9C) SS to Owl, Hit Owl, 5 Bombs from Plant, Recoil Flip with Bomb down to River, Swim to Swamp, Go to Lost Woods, Get 10 Rupees, ISS from Bomb, Get Bottle (15B) (9C) ISS to Octo, Sidehops to Deku Palace, ISG-ISS past Deku Guards, Pull out Bomb while Sliding, Use old Zora Jump Strat, Get Sonata + SoS (11B) (9C) Get 3 Deku sticks from Dekus and 1 Deku Stick from pot + deku nuts on the way to Woodfall Temple, Enter Temple Mega Flips past Gap with 2 Bomb Hovers and 1 Mega Flip, Kill Lizarfos with Jumpslash Strat, Get Bow (8B) (9C) Recoil Flip to get OoB, 8 Mega Flips, Kill Odolwa (0B) (1C) Warp to CT, Let Chu explode at owl and HISS to Pool, Get Bremen Mask, Enter Curiosity Shop, Create 3 new bottles with Bremen Mask, deku Mask and Deku Nuts, Buy 20 Bombs and 20 Bombchus (20R) (20B) (20C) Warp to GB, Enter Pirate's Fortress, Swim as quickly as possible to Pirate boat and jump on it, jump on land and pull out bomb while jumping, ISG-HISS, pull out Bomb while sliding, Hover past gap with 1 Mega Flip and 1 Bombchu Hover, Enter main area (18B) (18C) Climb Ladder, Bombchu Superslide, Skip cutscence, Get Hookshot (17B) (17C) Skip second Pirate Battle with Bombchu Recoil Flip, Skip 3rd Pirate Battle normal jump, Do 4th Battle normally, Deposit Eggs, Get the rest of the eggs from Pinnacle Rock, Learn New Wave Bossa Nova (17B) (16C) Play Zora Pots Game one time, Go to South Bay Owl, Get 5 Bombs from Pot, Enter GBT (110R) (20B) (16C) Mega Flip past Gap, HISS, Boss Key Skip with Bomb Staircase, 2 Mega Flips combined with 1 Bombchu Hover, Kill Gyorg + get 1 heart damage from Gyorg, Get 5 Bombs from pot (18B) (11C) Get back to GBFF, Get 4 Deku Nuts from Palm Tree, Fairy Fountain Wrong Warp with new Strat, ISG-ISS up to Snowhead Temple (13B) (3C) Block Skip, Bomb Long Jump Strat in Bridge Room and kill ice enemy with sword, Scarecrow Song Skip, 2 Recoil flip with Bombs, Beat Wizrobe Infinite Deku Stick from Bomb Damage, Get Fire Arrows, Hookshot to Torch (9B) (3C) Hookshot other Torch, Mega Flip past Gap, HISS strategy with Bomb for Snowballs (6B) (2C) Mega Flip past Gap, Boss Key Skip, Kill Goth with Superslide into cutscence (2B) (0C) Get 5 Bombs from plant, Warp to CT, Buy 20 Chus + 10 Bombs, Warp to Ikana, Pull out Bomb while Sliding, Get 5 Bombs from plant, HISS up to Stone Tower (20B) (20C) Climb Stone Tower with Mega Flips, enter ST (10B) (13C) HISS over to door, Bomb Staircase + Forwards Backflip strategy past Sun Block, Get small key and minimize Magic Meter, so you can only use 4 Fire Arrows anymore (7B) (10C) Bomb Staircase + Zora Grab Trick past Sun Block, Get 10 Bombs from enemys + 1/2 Heart Damage from enemy, Recoil Flips in Updraft Room, Kill Garo's Master with Infinte Deku Stick from Bomb, Death Warp with Bombchu (12B) (6C) Inverted Stone Tower with Recoil Flip of Bombchu and Sidehop to shoot eye, Bomb Long Jump past first room, Boss Key Skip, Kill Twimmold with Fire Arrow Strat (7B) (2C) Warp to CT, Clock Tower early with Bomb Staircase and 2 Bombchu Hovers (5B) (0C) SS to Kid, Kill 1+2 Cycle of Majora normally, Kill 3rd Cycle of Majora with Infinite Deku Stick from Bomb (3B) (0C) Changes: - HISS to GB with Bombchu and Bomb HISS in Lost Woods - Woodfall Temple Hover with 2 Bomb Hovers and 1 Mega Flip to skip equipping Bombchus and to HISS with the saved Chu later - Skipping Romani Ranch - Bottle Duplication to beat PF and Pinnacle in one Trip - Bremen Mask after Woodfall Temple - 4 Deku Nuts from Palm Tree before second Wrong Warp - Skipping both Bomb Drops at the second Zora Pots Game - 1 Bombchu Superslides in Pirate's Fortress - Different Strategy in first part of Pirate's Fortress - More Damage from Gyorg

Posted: 6/13/2009 2:12 AM

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Speed test, that proves, that bremen mask is the quickest item: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5dccRZ1k4J4

Posted: 6/5/2009 11:57 PM

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as we have so many explosives to waste between shopping 2 and 3, I'm TASing Pirate's Fortress now and my goal is to use as many explosives as possible :D there's nothing cooler than trying to get creative at speed running =) will be uploaded next week, because I'm away for 5 days like slowking said already ;)

Posted: 6/4/2009 11:08 AM

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only thing we could do would be to overwrite bombchus and then buy 20 chus afterwards. that means, that you have 20 chus in your inventory and a equipped bottle but then again, you would be forced to complete the whole fortress without bombchus, what could cost some time again, but if I think about it, maybe we can complete PF only with bombs and never go shopping again afterwards edit: I had a look at our route and overwriting the chus should be the quickest way. it would add only 3 more bomb hovers edit 2: argh, it doesn't work if you use the bottle, the slot gets a bottle again edit 3: it seems to be a millions times quicker to me just to buy a deku stick later in the run instead of getting the bremen mask ;)

Posted: 5/31/2009 11:22 AM

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tryed that already and you can't get the speed into the slide ;) the only thing, I was able to do, was to keep the speed for 2 seconds by smashing the Z button

Posted: 5/20/2009 7:12 PM

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Synx wrote:

do you need hookshot to get explosives for the any% run? Or can you use explosives to boost up to fishingpond and skip both hookshot and scarecrow?

you need either the hookshot or explosives or the magic bean ;)

Posted: 5/17/2009 2:19 PM

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ok, the current route has still some errors and a little new trick has been discovered: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nEdj4ib-7fw&feature=channel_page First Cycle get 2r at the very beginning on your sidehop route to the wooden stumps (2r) hear grandmas storys twice and dance with the scarecrow, deposit the 2r get to ECT, do a full run through termina field to WCT (101r) get to ECT, get fairy, do half a run through termina field to NCT, get 99r from 36 bushes, get magic, deposit the rupees (200r) get to clock tower, wait for 12 O'clock, get ocarina and SoT, timetravel Second Cycle Hit CT Owl, Withdraw 200R, Buy Bomb Bag + 20 Chus (70R) (20B) (20C) ISG-ISS to Fence, Pull out Bomb while Sliding, Hover over Fence with Bomb and Chu, SS to GB (17B) (19C) ISS to Water, Hit Owl, Get Zora Mask, Leaver Slide to South Bay (16B) (19C) Flying Zora to Fountain, Blow up Rock with Chu, Play SoDT (at least somewhere around here), New Fairy Fountain Strat (12B) (10C) SS to Owl, Hit Owl, 5 Bombs from Plant, Recoil Flip with Bomb down to River, Swim to Swamp, Go to Lost Woods, Get 10 Rupees, ISS from Bombchu, Get Bottle (15B) (9C) ISS to Octo, Sidehops to Deku Palace, ISG-ISS past Deku Guards, Pull out Bomb while Sliding, Use old Zora Jump Strat, Get Sonata + SoS (11B) (9C) Get 3 Deku sticks from Dekus and 1 Deku Stick from pot on the way to Woodfall Temple, Enter Temple Mega Flips past Gap, Kill Lizarfos with Jumpslash Strat, Get Bow (9B) (8C) Recoil Flip to get OoB, 8 Mega Flips, Kill Odolwa (1B) (0C) Warp to CT, Buy 20 Chus, Leave to GB (0R) (1B) (20C) HISS to bush, Megaflip of the blob down the ledge, ISS to other Bush, Get 20 Bombs + 20 Rupees, HISS of red blob to Milk Road, ISG-ISS to Rock, Pull out Bomb while Sliding, 3 Bombchu Hovers, SS to Epona, Get Bottle (20R) (17B) (17C) Warp to GB, Swim to Pirate's Fortress, Mega Flip past Gap, Get Hookshot, Zora Egg, Recoil Flip with Bomb to second Zora Egg, Deposit Eggs (14B) (16C) Back to Pirate's Fortress, Skip Pirate Battle with 4 Bomb Hovers + 2 Mega Flips, Skip second Pirate Battle with Recoil Flip from Bomb, Deposit Eggs, Get rest of Zora Eggs, Learn NWBN (7B) (15C) Play Zora Pots Game one time + get 10 Bombs from Stones, Go to South Bay Owl, Get 5 Bombs, Enter GBT (110R) (20B) (15C) Mega Flip past Gap, HISS, Boss Key Skip with Bomb Staircase + 1 Bomb Hover + 2 Mega Flips, Kill Gyorg + get 1/2 damage, Get 5 Bombs from pot (17B) (11C) Get back to GBFF, Fairy Fountain Wrong Warp with new Strat, ISG-ISS up to Snowhead Temple (12B) (3C) Block Skip, Bomb Long Jump Strat in Bridge Room and kill ice enemy with sword, Scarecrow Song Skip, 1 Recoil flip with Bomb + Recoil Flip with Bombchu, Beat Wizrobe Infinite Deku Stick from Bomb Damage, Get Fire Arrows, Hookshot to Torch (8B) (3C) Hookshot other Torch, Mega Flip past Gap, HISS strategy with Bomb for Snowballs (5B) (2C) Mega Flip past Gap, Boss Key Skip, Kill Goth with Superslide into cutscence (1B) (0C) Get 5 Bombs from plant, Warp to CT, Buy 20 Chus + 10 Bombs, Warp to Ikana, Pull out Bomb while walking to plant, Get 5 Bombs, ISS up to Stone Tower (20B) (20C) Climb Stone Tower with Mega Flips, enter ST (10B) (13C) HISS over to door, Bomb Staircase + Sidehop strategy past Sun Block, Get small key and minimize Magic Meter, so you can only use 4 Fire Arrows anymore (7B) (9C) Bomb Staircase + Zora Grab Trick past Sun Block, Get 10 Bombs from enemys + 3/4 Heart Damage from enemy, Recoil Flips in Updraft Room, Kill Garo's Master with Infinte Deku Stick from Bomb, Death Warp (11B) (6C) Inverted Stone Tower with Recoil of Bombchu and Sidehop to shoot eye, Bomb Long Jump past first room, Boss Key Skip, Kill Twimmold with Fire Arrow Strat (5B) (1C) Warp to CT, Use new strat for Clock Tower early (2B) (0C) SS to Kid, Kill 1+2 Cycle of Majora normally, Kill 3rd Cycle of Majora with Infinite Deku Stick from Bomb (0B) (0C) Changes: -Damage from Gyorg instead of Leaver for death warp -No Damage ISS in Snowhead Bridge Room -Superslide into Goth cutscence -New Inverted Stone Tower w/o Elegy of Emptiness strategy -HISS in first Stone Tower room -Inverted Stone Tower w/o Elegy of Emptiness with Recoil Flip of Bombchu instead of Mega Flip

Posted: 5/16/2009 1:17 PM

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Fino wrote:

I just watched the old test run till getting the ocarina. It showed some really nice strategies to me like the swamp route and the fights with the iron knights. I can't belive how stupid I am, not thinking of rolling behind him -.-" Tomorrow I'll watch the rest of your run and I'm really looking forward to it ^^ And yeah, manipulating this game kinda sucks... It never does what I want...

I created a MC route for my non-TAS run I always wanted to do, but never published it. it shows a route, that is a lot quicker than the current routes, especially the part from dungeon 3-4 ;) I actually wanted to keep it secret until I finished the run, but because of all the TASes people do for this game, I'll post it here soon ;)

Posted: 5/15/2009 12:13 PM

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hmm, only new trick is this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExDZybu16iY&feature=channel_page swordless made progress with the TAS for sure, but don't expect it to be finished in a long while ;)

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