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Here's the finished route: First Cycle 200 Rupees Second Cycle SoDT when you are 9 and a half in-game hours away from the Ranch houses Hit CT Owl, Withdraw 200R, Buy Bomb Bag + 20 Chus (70R) (20B) (20C) ISG-ISS to Fence, Pull out Bomb while Sliding, Hover over Fence with Bomb and Chu, SS to GB (17B) (19C) ISS to Water, Hit Owl, Get Zora Mask, Leaver Slide to South Bay (16B) (19C) Flying Zora to Fountain, Blow up Rock with Chu, New Fairy Fountain Strat (12B) (10C) SS to Owl, Hit Owl, 5 Bombs from Plant, Recoil Flip with Bomb down to River, Swim to Swamp, Go to Lost Woods, Get 10 Rupees, ISS from Bombchu, Get Bottle (15B) (9C) ISS to Octo, Sidehops to Deku Palace, ISG-ISS past Deku Guards, Pull out Bomb while Sliding, Use old Zora Jump Strat, Get Sonata + SoS (11B) (9C) Get 3 Deku sticks from Dekus and 1 Deku Stick from pot on the way to Woodfall Temple, Enter Temple Mega Flips past Gap, Kill Lizarfos with Jumpslash Strat, Get Bow (9B) (8C) Recoil Flip to get OoB, 8 Mega Flips, Kill Odolwa (1B) (0C) Warp to CT, Buy 20 Chus, Leave to GB (0R) (1B) (20C) ISG-ISS to bush, Get 15 Bombs, Jump down ledge, ISS to other Bush, Get 10 Bombs + 20 Rupees, ISG-ISS to Rock, Pull out Bomb while Sliding, 3 Bombchu Hovers, SS to Epona, Get Bottle (20R) (17B) (17C) Warp to GB, Swim to Pirate's Fortress, Mega Flip past Gap, Get Hookshot, Zora Egg, Recoil Flip with Bomb to second Zora Egg, Deposit Eggs (14B) (16C) Back to Pirate's Fortress, Skip Pirate Battle with 4 Bomb Hovers + 2 Mega Flips, Skip second Pirate Battle with Recoil Flip from Bomb, Deposit Eggs, Get rest of Zora Eggs, Learn NWBN (7B) (15C) Play Zora Pots Game one time and get 5 Bombs from Stone, Go to South Bay Owl, Get 5 Bombs, Enter GBT (110R) (17B) (15C) Mega Flip past Gap, Boss Key Skip with Bomb Staircase + 2 Bomb Hovers + 2 Mega Flip, Kill Gyorg, Get 5 Bombs from pot (14B) (12C) Warp to Woodfall, Get 1 deku Stick from pot + 1 Deku Stick from Deku, Fairy Fountain Wrong Warp with new Strat, ISG-ISS up to Snowhead Temple (9B) (4C) Block Skip, Azorae's Bridge Room Strat, Scarecrow Song Skip, Beat Wizrobe with 2 Arrows and 2 Deku Sticks, Get Fire Arrows, Hookshot to Torch (7B) (4C) 3 Bomb Hover + 1 Bombchu Hover to Snowballs, Bomb + Fire Arrow Strategy to Blow Up Snowballs (3B) (3C) Mega Flip past Gap, Boss Key Skip, Kill Goth by ISS over to perfect shoot position (0B) (0C) Get 5 Bombs from plant, Warp to CT, Buy 20 Chus + 10 Bombs, Warp to Ikana, Pull out Bomb while walking to plant, Get 5 Bombs, ISS up to Stone Tower (19B) (20C) Climb Stone Tower with Mega Flips, enter ST (9B) (13C) Bomb Staircase + Sidehop strategy past Sun Block, Get small key and minimize Magic Meter, so you can only use 4 Fire Arrows anymore (7B) (9C) Bomb Staircase + Zora Grab Trick past Sun Block, Get 10 Bombs from enemys, Recoil Flips in Updraft Room, Kill Garo's Master with 4 Deku Sticks (13B) (6C) Play SoS, Inverted Stone Tower with Mega Flip, Bomb Long Jump past first room, Boss Key Skip, Kill Twimmold with Fire Arrow Strat (6B) (1C) Warp to CT, Use new strat for Clock Tower early, SS to Kid, Kick ass of Majora's Mask, EPIC WIN (2B) (0C) So only 2 things left to test: 1. ISS > SS? 2. Death Warp out of ST
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No need for the 5 extra Bombs from the Spider or Stone anymore ;) First Cycle 200 Rupees Second Cycle SoDT when you are 9 and a half in-game hours away from the Ranch houses Hit CT Owl, Withdraw 200R, Buy Bomb Bag + 20 Chus (70R) (20B) (20C) ISG-ISS to Fence, Pull out Bomb while Sliding, Hover over Fence with Bomb and Chu, SS to GB (17B) (19C) ISS to Water, Hit Owl, Get Zora Mask, Leaver Slide to South Bay (16B) (19C) Flying Zora to Fountain, Blow up Rock with Chu, New Fairy Fountain Strat (12B) (10C) SS to Owl, Hit Owl, 5 Bombs from Plant, Recoil Flip with Bomb down to River, Swim to Swamp, Go to Lost Woods, Get 10 Rupees, ISS from Bombchu, Get Bottle (15B) (9C) ISS to Octo, Sidehops to Deku Palace, ISG-ISS past Deku Guards, Pull out Bomb while Sliding, Use old Zora Jump Strat, Get Sonata + SoS (11B) (9C) Get 3 Deku sticks from Dekus and 1 Deku Stick from pot on the way to Woodfall Temple, Enter Temple Mega Flips past Gap, Kill Lizarfos with Jumpslash Strat, Get Bow (9B) (8C) Recoil Flip to get OoB, 8 Mega Flips, Kill Odolwa (1B) (0C) Warp to CT, Buy 20 Chus, Leave to GB (0R) (1B) (20C) ISG-ISS to bush, Get 15 Bombs, Jump down ledge, ISS to other Bush, Get 10 Bombs + 20 Rupees, ISG-ISS to Rock, Pull out Bomb while Sliding, 3 Bombchu Hovers, SS to Epona, Get Bottle (20R) (17B) (17C) Warp to GB, Swim to Pirate's Fortress, Mega Flip past Gap, Get Hookshot, Zora Egg, Recoil Flip with Bomb to second Zora Egg, Deposit Eggs (14B) (16C) Back to Pirate's Fortress, Skip Pirate Battle with 4 Bomb Hovers + 2 Mega Flips, Skip second Pirate Battle with Recoil Flip from Bomb, Deposit Eggs, Get rest of Zora Eggs, Learn NWBN (7B) (15C) Play Zora Pots Game one time and get 5 Bombs from Stone, Go to South Bay Owl, Get 5 Bombs, Enter GBT (110R) (17B) (15C) Mega Flip past Gap, Boss Key Skip with Bomb Staircase + 2 Bomb Hovers + 2 Mega Flip, Kill Gyorg, Get 5 Bombs from pot (14B) (12C) Warp to Woodfall, Get 1 deku Stick from pot + 1 Deku Stick from Deku, Fairy Fountain Wrong Warp with new Strat, ISG-ISS up to Snowhead Temple (10B) (4C) Block Skip, Azorae's Bridge Room Strat, Scarecrow Song Skip, Beat Wizrobe with 2 Arrows and 2 Deku Sticks, Get Fire Arrows, Hookshot to Torch (8B) (4C) 3 Bomb Hover + 1 Bombchu Hover to Snowballs, Bomb + Fire Arrow Strategy to Blow Up Snowballs (5B) (3C) Mega Flip past Gap, Boss Key Skip, Kill Goth (3B) (0C) Get 5 Bombs from plant, Warp to CT, Buy 20 Chus + 10 Bombs, Warp to Ikana, ISS to Stone Tower (17B) (20C) Climb Stone Tower with Mega Flips, enter ST (7B) (13C) I'll finish the route later should be the optional route now ;)
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argh, it sucks to know, that a trick is possible, but you're simply not able to pull it off stupid fairy fountain
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I'm working on a fairy fountain wrong warp with less bombchus if it turns out to be possible, we woul have those 2 chus ;) the minimal number for GBT is 3 bombchus, btw. if we use 3 bombchus, we would have to use 2 bomb hovers, what costs 6 seconds.
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bombchu superslide requieres bomb and bombchu. it is simply a superslide from a bomb, which is hit by the bombchu, so the bomb explodes early. ZFG mentioned, that we're able to get OoB with the corner and a Superslide in the fairy fountain. it needs a very special camera angle and position. now we have to figure out, how to get OoB with ISG there ;) another thing, what we didn't thought about yet, is, that we can also go backwards in the fairy fountain. only useful thing would be GB to SH shouldn't be a really good idea to warp to SH this way, because Woodfall is much faster than GB we're going to get the 5 bombs from the woodfall spider in the first room, btw. it should be better to slide to the water in one slide, but is there a quick way to kick the ass of this spider? we have no Bow :/
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ok, here's my version of the new fairy fountain warp trick: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnGxVvEJ8Iw I was able to do it with one less explosive than azorae ;)
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nice I've just figured out a better OoB, that allows use to do the FFWW with only 12 explosives I'll upload the video soon -3 explosives :) SHT with wrong warp is possible with 25 explosives now :D edit: you're such an asshole :D I've discovered the same thing I'll upload a even more optimized version soon
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Swordless Link wrote:
Slowking: That should definitely be faster. It would take maybe 1 second to get two rupees at the start of the game, but by doing this, we skip 7 screen transitions. Of course, this can only be done if we definitely only need around 200 rupees. Also, I haven't ever been able to manipulate red rupees in the field, but it should be doable with blues, as tedious as it'll be.
we have a solid rupee route, so the only question left is, wheter we do SHT or ST first ;)
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thanks swordless this helps a lot ;) here's the new lullaby skip with hyper endless superslide: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDDoLe866W4 now we're able to get up to the temple with one bomb :D
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thanks because I'm thinking about not doing it anymore now ;)
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Swordless Link wrote:
In that case, I'd rather you didn't. :P
hmm, maybe i'll still do it, because the TAS has enough WTF factors already and most of them come from my discoveries, so I should be allowed to steal one of those WTF facors ;) oh, and could you please give me the perfect frames for a backwalk superslide? I want to test, wheter hyper ESSes or normal SSes are faster ;)
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Swordless Link wrote:
oh, and swordless, I thought about doing a snowhead with goron mask TAS. should I do it or shouldn't I do it to keep the "WTF" factor for your TAS? With Goron Mask? You mean like the one that was in my old WIP before I restarted (only with superflips and such)? Go ahead.
without sry, forgot that "out"
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thanks As I did a non-TAS MM run and a lot of glitch discoveries, my basic knowledge on how the game works etc. is huge already. you're right, the questions are just how to do something perfect, but I can't seem to find the solution for the first 2 questions ;) link just don't want to take his shield away, if I do the quickest way to backflip again, so I have to use the second time, I can backflip at, although swordless and mukki's bombchu hovers seem to be quicker than mine :/ when I watch backwalking in swordless TASes, he seems to rapidly backwalk after changing camera angle, but this causes link to do sideways walking, when I do it
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hmm, no, not really. the only 2 games, where I have a pretty big knownledge are MM and OoT and there are much better TASers for both games than me ;) I just wanted to know it, in case, if I do a full game TAS or something someday. It would be just pretty practical for every TAS, wheter it's a long one or not. oh, and swordless, I thought about doing a snowhead with goron mask TAS. should I do it or shouldn't I do it to keep the "WTF" factor for your TAS?
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As I want to get better at TASing, it would be cool, if someone like swordless or petrie could answer a few questions: 1. How do I do frame perfect backwalking after changing my camera angle? If I hold backwards, while link changes his camera angle, link doesn't walk backwards, he does sideways walking. 2. What are the perfect frames for a backwards superslide? 3. How can I do frame perfect Bombchu Hovers? There are a few frames, that let me backflip directly after the explosion again, but link is still holding his shield, if I do rapid backflips, so I can't reach perfect high this way. Afterwards, there are 3-4 frames, that doesn't allow me to backflip, and after those few frames, I can do bombchu hovers to reach perfect high. Do I understand it right or is there a trick to bombchu hovers with perfect high directly after the explosion? 4. Perfect frames for playing a song? 5. If I'm doing a long TAS, is there a way to go forwards to the frame, I want to go on at? Or is the only thing I can do movie playback? big thanks to the guy, who answers this :)
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romani ranch access with new hyper ESS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oEt85jeJzxc I think stabbing is slower than a normal sword attack, because the stone is on the right side of link and link does stapping with his left hand
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I haven't really experimented with memory hack like OoT RBA etc. so I can't really help with this. getting ocarina on B or something (I know it's possible to get ocarina on B) shouldn't really affect anything with the song hacking sun's song in your inventory with any trick wouldn't be possible, because there's no place in the inventory for it any ideas on how to make this song playable?
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Kuwaga wrote:
If it's not replicateable on console or if it requires in-game modification of the hardware on console, I guess those tricks aren't allowed. (and for a good reason imo)
all it needs is a roll and a special koordinate for the control stick ;)
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haven't really searched yet yesterday, I just experimented with the new ESS I found a weird effect, that freezed my PJ64 in a weird way all the time. it seemed like a hardcore form of the crooked catridge glitch just without crooked catridge I know exactly, how to do it, so I'm going to try some things with it on muppen now. if we find a way to avoid freezing, we could be able to use this at certain places maybe ;)
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in case if somebody wonders, we can do mega flips and hyper ESSes without bombs just with enemys or bombchus: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sL0oF1lirPa&fmt=22 the hyper ESS from enemys could be useful. maybe a leaver ESSes after zora mask to north bay or a deku baba ESS to the big octo
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at the first ikana trip, we SS to do owl, sidehop to the plant, pull out bomb, recoil flip down to the river normal SSes are still faster than hyper ESSing, because you have to wait 5 frames longer until you can start sliding + you need to change your angle for the roll at first, so you are able to slide in the direction you want because of the new hyper slide thing, we have to change our route a little bit again. it should be also better to use a bomb in deku palace now, because you can immediately pull out the bomb, when you begin sliding
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yeah, you need sword to keep the rod believe me, it isn't possible to get deku stick on B without sword at the moment and shield skip is also not possible for low%, because the deku shield skips a few items ;) ocarina skip has been possible since forest escape was discovered ;)
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Slowking wrote:
MrGrunz wrote:
getting the bomb drop at ikana is no problem anymore. simply use the new ESS and you won't loose any time
Can we just ISS through the bush with ISG and get the bomb drop?
simply backwalk with bomb to plant, get bomb drop, roll into explosion and hyper slide up to the stone tower ;)
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getting the bomb drop at ikana is no problem anymore. simply use the new ESS and you won't loose any time
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Ver Greeneyes wrote:
I don't suppose someone could invent a chu megaflip hover? ;)
that's possible, I think I'll try some stuff mega flip and hyperspeed ESS stuff tomorrow oh, and here's one example of what we can do with the bombchus: bombchu superslide through barrels over to hookshot and there are more uses, I think ;)
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