Ya, I think there's a lot of CS where you could press start before they happen. So it's just pressing start on an exact frame? Just a get a LUA script to try them all.
"Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocrities. The latter cannot understand it when a man does not thoughtlessly submit to hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously uses his intelligence."
What about skipping the sword, buying stick for owl skip, then buying stick and shield together, maybe get the river 20r for the r. Use stick for mido skip. Get 3-4 sticks before deku tree and/or in deku tree. 1 stick for wall bounce to web skip, maybe can get stick before skipping second web if quick enough. 1 stick for gohma, 1 stick for ISG on stalfos and ganon. I timed it out earlier, but I think stick vs sword initially was over 30s faster (*EDIT* 25s), you'd lose some time getting sticks and some small stuff where sword helps, so the net trade-off would be pretty close.
I'm assuming this has been tried, but with mido skip, swimming underneath and skipping the deku tree CS.
"Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocrities. The latter cannot understand it when a man does not thoughtlessly submit to hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously uses his intelligence."
That's neat, maybe something to do with getting there fast enough, like barry wasn't in the load zone when you got there. Might be other stuff like that.
"Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocrities. The latter cannot understand it when a man does not thoughtlessly submit to hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously uses his intelligence."
What ways are there to do OI glitch, and what do they all have in common? Maybe there's a way to do it with the slingshot or something.
"Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocrities. The latter cannot understand it when a man does not thoughtlessly submit to hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously uses his intelligence."
does ganondoor work on DC? Might not be faster to get to tower, but if we ever find a way with bombs to get inside the tower and skip to last door, which works in theory, but glitching inside still hasn't been done yet. I was thinking the glitch where you bomb hover up into a slope that pushes you inside a wall could be used.
"Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocrities. The latter cannot understand it when a man does not thoughtlessly submit to hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously uses his intelligence."
Even if a trick to skip mido did save time, don't you still need shield to get into gohma room, and deku sword for isg?
"Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocrities. The latter cannot understand it when a man does not thoughtlessly submit to hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously uses his intelligence."
Well, there's arguments for and against this. Personally, I think the arguments for are much stronger from a utilitarian point of view and Kantian. This doesn't need to be discussed here though. Perhaps, a new thread should be created, as it seems a be a very controversial issue with many people for and against.
"Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocrities. The latter cannot understand it when a man does not thoughtlessly submit to hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously uses his intelligence."
It won't be seperated from the any% run that's currently up on the site, the wrong warping to skip Ganon will be the new category. They are both very similar already and the wrong warping will only be used once. There's no reason to have two different categories for that.
Do you know this for sure, has TASvideos made an official ruling on this? I'd be surprised if it was ruled that way, it would be first time a glitch which skipped to the end credits wasn't considered extreme enough to warrant it's own category.
"Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocrities. The latter cannot understand it when a man does not thoughtlessly submit to hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously uses his intelligence."
I don't think it's referring to that, it has a seperate patch list for that, I think all exploits where something that required a hack of some sort. Bugs where things that could be done without any hacks. There should be a line for patch 1.02 or something that says something like, "fixed bug that allowed players to slide buildings"
"Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocrities. The latter cannot understand it when a man does not thoughtlessly submit to hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously uses his intelligence."
The version is known, and the patch files says which bugs you can still do. I made about post it about a while back. I think you can still do most of the bugs besides building slides and maybe a couple others if I remember correctly.
"Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocrities. The latter cannot understand it when a man does not thoughtlessly submit to hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously uses his intelligence."
Ah sweet, my hunch was right about off by 1 errors with start on exact frames and frame precise events. This game seems to be riddled with off by 1 errors. Let the paradigm shifts begin.
"Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocrities. The latter cannot understand it when a man does not thoughtlessly submit to hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously uses his intelligence."
Hmm, I was just thinking that if they added more functions to one button than normally exist on PC version, that with the control group over-wright glitch, you might be able to do more exploits that are not possible on PC version.
"Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocrities. The latter cannot understand it when a man does not thoughtlessly submit to hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously uses his intelligence."
Would neat to beat every NES game. Some of friends back in the days of the dorms set out to beat every NES in my friend's stack. I remember we didn't like Bayou Billy and quite on it early, and spent about 3 months on battle toads, the 3 of us. This was with out any guides or emus. Some of the ones I beat for first time where TMNT, ghost N' Goblins, and Rush N' Attack. We beat a lot of stupid games like Karate Kid. Those were fun times.
"Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocrities. The latter cannot understand it when a man does not thoughtlessly submit to hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously uses his intelligence."
Is that one video really the only source for CC skip? Has anyone contacted that guy? Do we have no information on it?
"Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocrities. The latter cannot understand it when a man does not thoughtlessly submit to hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously uses his intelligence."
So is there much planning or thinking involved in this "data glitch" run besides trying to avoid random encounters as with any run? Is it basically just luck manipulation and optimal random encounter strategy while running in optimal lines?
If so, I'll come back to this when an actual interesting run is in progress that involves more route planning, thinking, and interesting strategies, completing the game as we played it, without "data glitches"
"Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocrities. The latter cannot understand it when a man does not thoughtlessly submit to hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously uses his intelligence."
That's not all
I'm not sure why the current is dissabled in the Adel's run, if I start from before the water part off the WIP the current is always disabled, no matter what you do. You can do the water part faster with the current.
"Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocrities. The latter cannot understand it when a man does not thoughtlessly submit to hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously uses his intelligence."
So it relying on a crit-hit strat since it'd skipping for deathblow for some of those battles in the middle there, like Palmer I think. I it was 1 or 2 luck short of having a chance for some of those, I don't know if you found a way to get higher stats or are getting a +1 luck somewhere?
And I couldn't tell from this, is it Skipping CC, it'd a be real shame to plan all this other stuff in massive detail but neglect CC skip for lack more CC skip testing.
"Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocrities. The latter cannot understand it when a man does not thoughtlessly submit to hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously uses his intelligence."
What is the plan going forward with this run? Are you using the memory corruption type glitch, or doing a more normal run without extreme glitches?
Is the route planned out? If so, can you post it? I hope the analysis I did for the first CD helped with minimum amount of grenades to buy and what not and where you can get the alternatively for faster. *cough* skip the damn garden ether already!
Was CC skip ever figured out, 1 how to do it, and 2 if you can complete the game after doing it? I'd love to this this in the run as it seems like a very legit and straight forward shortcut which skips a rather uninteresting and and inconsequential portion of the game.
"Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocrities. The latter cannot understand it when a man does not thoughtlessly submit to hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously uses his intelligence."
"Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocrities. The latter cannot understand it when a man does not thoughtlessly submit to hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously uses his intelligence."
"Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocrities. The latter cannot understand it when a man does not thoughtlessly submit to hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously uses his intelligence."
So, since we want to have 80r before DoT so you don't have to take a delay towards KV shop, is it faster to get the 20r in river or all 60r on chains? And I'm not so sure you can manipulate all 5r drops from bushes without having to delay a significant amount of frames to get the manipulation, also the more bushes you have to slash the further out the way you have to go so they start cost more time for more bushes. I wouldn't be surprised if it's best to get 15-20r from bushes before first rod steal, then use the rock by magic for the next 20r, you might be able to check the rock while waiting on the bomb for the skip to DC trick, or at least partially waiting on bomb. That way you wouldn't have to go off route to further away bushes the first or second time you're at lake.
"Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocrities. The latter cannot understand it when a man does not thoughtlessly submit to hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously uses his intelligence."
So if any% was ever done on dolphin, would the route basically not collect the last 20r and skip last rod steal and use the bottle swipe glitch to get stick on B when collecting the bugs or fish?
"Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocrities. The latter cannot understand it when a man does not thoughtlessly submit to hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously uses his intelligence."
The route makes perfect sense, though I don't think there's clear winner for rupee collection like I said earlier, pointing out the river rupees, 20,40, and 60 rupee variants on chains, and is there a reason why bug sell isn't included? If you're already picking bugs and getting bottle on B it's 3s extra to pick up another, and 4s to sell since it's on the way to shop. I know 40r from bushes would take on the order of 7s, so this is the only thing I think needs more precise testing. There's certainly a lot of combinations that will work. And I'm pretty sure any tree would be strictly worse than bushes for rupees, unless there's a shortage of bushes somehow.
I'll add that we no longer pressure jump. Now we superflip onto the lower part of the rope ^_^. Saves a bit of time and looks slick.
I was always pretty sure that would be possible, glad someone finally did it, since you can run the bomb to anywhere on the bridge before it explodes during free time, and the middle is a lot lower than the ends.
Waits for slowking to flame post, unfortunately
"Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocrities. The latter cannot understand it when a man does not thoughtlessly submit to hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously uses his intelligence."
I think it's a combination of SlowKing not being a native English speaker and just being snide, rude and negative person in general, and me not being the best at communicating precisely what I mean in ways others understand.
I don't think I gave a single suggestion in any of these posts or said a different route was faster. I gave good estimates for the different routes and confirmed the ones we wanted to use were faster, asked which specific tree we would be using, which got confused horribly somehow, and pointing out that picking up an extra bug and selling it is about 7s extra, where as getting the rupees the alternate ways isn't precisely known so it isn't obvious which method of getting enough rupees is faster, unless I'm missing something.
Slowking, I can understand why he would misunderstand me and be so quick to negatively derail a thread, that's what he does and always will do. I don't know why others want to join in his derailment and snide negativity. My original post as whole a fine productive articulation which didn't step on any toes or suggest anything stupid that should have been fact checked, but because slowking is what he is, we get pages of snide, negative, strawman and derailment.
"Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocrities. The latter cannot understand it when a man does not thoughtlessly submit to hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously uses his intelligence."
Well if the game says rupees that's some bad engrish:
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/rupee?s=t
I'm pretty sure it should be rubies:
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/rubies?s=t
Anyway, I don't see anywhere where the specific tree nuts is mentioned. I guess if you're going to use pond twice you need an extra 20, but that's not until the end, you could get the 20 in the box by the skulita or the chains when leaving market the second time.
Getting 15 from bushes in lake plus extra 20 in river or chains plus platforms is still going to take some time, where as bugs+selling is only about 7s, so it's pretty close, certainly not obvious without more precise timing.
For Spider-Waffle (and anyone else who missed it)
Slowking wrote:
Nuts will not drop from needle trees, but all the leaf trees in hyrule field. You can only get one drop from one tree. Every drop will give you 5 nuts.
(Those trees are fun. They will drop bombs, nuts, rupees, arrows and maybe some other stuff)
The place to get them is: On the way back from lake hylia we slide of a poe. Right next to the poe there is a field of leaf trees.
The specific tree is never mentioned, which is what I said...
"Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocrities. The latter cannot understand it when a man does not thoughtlessly submit to hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously uses his intelligence."
