Ok, here are all message we sent each other
Von: TASeditor
An: Xipo
Verfasst am: 2015-05-22 14:24:54
Titel: Co-author for Kage
Hey,
I'm working on a run of Kage: User movie #20199656607487082.
Would you like to help? Would be great if you do so, since you know a lot of this game.
Von: Xipo
An: TASeditor
Verfasst am: 2015-05-24 08:00:48
Titel: Re: Co-author for Kage Nachricht zitieren
Ye,I am very glad to meet a good partner.Previous Kage's published is an old run in this site.I think you have got my 9:36 version.I have researched this game for a long time,but I am sorry there could be not big improvment except some details.I'm not always online,but I am glad to suggest something in http://tasvideos.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5724 ,if you don't mind my poor English.I am looking forward to seeing a great Kage tas.
Von: TASeditor
An: Xipo
Verfasst am: 2015-05-24 18:30:28
Titel: Re: Co-author for Kage
Great to hear that. The language barrier shall not be an issue.
Here's a lua script: User movie #19485580542599690 and the files for it are here: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bzbs4SiuHTyWT18yY3FFVzdtMFU/view?usp=sharing. Put the files in the same folder as the lua script. To use the files: make a marker in TAS Editor 11 frames before the first frame when it's possible to jump.
I saw your 9:36 movie, a bit too late though. I think a second could be improved.
Von: TASeditor
An: Xipo
Verfasst am: 2015-06-29 21:14:13
Titel: Kage
Hey,
did you see the WIP on the forums? Do you think more lag can be reduced?
I made a dirty copy-paste of 1-3 and 1-4, and I'm 3 frames ahead after 1-4, three frames of reduced lag in 1-1. 1-3 could be improved, not sure about 1-4. Don't know how much frames need to be saved to save time on the frame-rule.
Von: Xipo
An: TASeditor
Verfasst am: 2015-06-30 09:59:52
Titel: Re: Kage Nachricht zitieren
Sorry,I'm not good at lag.Don't mind some details.In stage1-4(BOSS ROOM),kill boss early or later do not effect time,you will begin stage 2-1 at the same frame:(
Von: TASeditor
An: Xipo
Verfasst am: 2015-06-30 14:30:56
Titel: Re: Kage
Yes the frame-rule is stupid. I think it's possible to remove more lag in 1-1 and 1-2 without losing time after 1-4... or even losing frames in 1-1 and 1-2 while removing more lag can save more time, considering the frame-rule.
In 1-3 some fames could be improved. I'm 2 frames ahead when jumping to the bombs, but somehow lose position on the rotating platforms afterwards... I manipulated the camera as you did.
Von: TASeditor
An: Xipo
Verfasst am: 2015-07-04 17:45:20
Titel: Re: Kage
1 frame is needed to break the frame-rule. :D
Not doing an attack in the end of 1-3 let's me start the fight in 1-4 earlier.
User movie #23907231870943389
Branch 0: contains the copy-pasted 1-3 and 1-4 with the small improvement;
Branches 6,4,5,7,8,9: contain tests in 1-3; I can't get my improvements get working there. Maybe you can try out.
Branch 2: contains a reduced lag in 1-1, but isn't enough to save a frame, but it still would break the frame-rule if nothing happens in the next levels.
Von: Xipo
An: TASeditor
Verfasst am: 2015-07-06 08:53:06
Titel: Re: Kage Nachricht zitieren
~~~~:( I have no idea.But please go ahead!go!go!go!
Von: TASeditor
An: Xipo
Verfasst am: 2015-07-27 16:42:45
Titel: Re: Kage
Can you please look into 1-3 User movie #24417048182199935.
I have no idea what's going on. Your input doesn't sync. And everything I do turns out to be not fast enough to break the frame-rule.
Von: Xipo
An: TASeditor
Verfasst am: 2015-07-28 14:57:41
Titel: Re: Kage Nachricht zitieren
Every one lag or different pixel will cause sync ;(.And the frame-rule is hard to break.I am sorry I can do nothing.
Von: TASeditor
An: Xipo
Verfasst am: 2015-07-28 17:17:20
Titel: Re: Kage
Well, nevermind. It's just weird that it was only one frame in the last WIP to break the frame-rule, now I'm 4 frames ahead and it doesn't work. I think I ignore it and keep going, I'm 8 frames ahead, saved from lag.
Von: TASeditor
An: Xipo
Verfasst am: 2015-09-04 15:50:47
Titel: Re: Kage
I managed to save 3 more frames (2 lag frames) in 1-2, but it still isn't enough to break the frame-rule, 1 frame too slow.
Von: TASeditor
An: Xipo
Verfasst am: 2015-11-27 19:01:48
Titel: Re: Kage
Can you please help with the 2-1 mid-boss: User movie #27150391279854757 It always hits me.
Von: Xipo
An: TASeditor
Verfasst am: 2015-12-03 17:54:46
Titel: Re: Kage Nachricht zitieren
http://dehacked.2y.net/microstorage.php/info/593556865/Kage%201player%20TAS-compact-2-1%28xipo%20fix%29.fm2
I can't explan boos's action.The reason could be odd or enen frame.
Von: TASeditor
An: Xipo
Verfasst am: 2016-04-23 23:01:02
Titel: Re: Kage
Do you have anything to say for the latest WIP? User movie #30435288475639490
Von: TASeditor
An: Xipo
Verfasst am: 2016-05-07 20:35:32
Titel: Re: Kage
One more frame is needed to beat the frame rule in 3-1 once more: User movie #30678553802671306 any ideas?
Von: Xipo
An: TASeditor
Verfasst am: 2016-05-11 08:05:14
Titel: Re: Kage Nachricht zitieren
It's cool.I notice you are tasing other tas.~~~mmmmm, I'm looking forward to see new kage tas at the first time.Cheer up!
Von: TASeditor
An: Xipo
Verfasst am: 2016-05-14 18:56:01
Titel: Re: Kage
Can you please help me out once more. In 4-1 I can't kill the enemies with 2 hits. Here's input for reference: User movie #30902866404504444
I'm ahead, but lots of position is lost.
Von: Xipo
An: TASeditor
Verfasst am: 2016-05-15 10:02:15
Titel: Re: Kage Nachricht zitieren
http://dehacked.2y.net/microstorage.php/info/1885869261/Kage%201player%20TAS4-1p%20fix.fm2
Continue this run,you will get what you want.The reason is that,the blade will cross the body every two time.So hit once,the next time,the blade will cross the enemy.
Von: TASeditor
An: Xipo
Verfasst am: 2016-05-24 11:46:28
Titel: Re: Kage
Does your last boss improvement only work each other frame?
Von: Xipo
An: TASeditor
Verfasst am: 2016-05-25 01:29:36
Titel: Re: Kage Nachricht zitieren
e~~~~~~Sorry,I can't understand(translate) what you mean.Do you say stand on his left or right?It looks the same.Weapon Chain can hit him every 9 frames in a specific location.
Von: TASeditor
An: Xipo
Verfasst am: 2016-05-25 17:21:13
Titel: Re: Kage
I mean if it depends on the hit detection (every second frame) or if it is something else? The boss has a different Y position when I start the fight than yours, one frame later. I stay on the right.
Your input doesn't sync.
Von: Xipo
An: TASeditor
Verfasst am: 2016-05-26 01:22:09
Titel: Re: Kage Nachricht zitieren
Can you give me your wip?Let me see it.
Von: TASeditor
An: Xipo
Verfasst am: 2016-05-26 14:27:09
Titel: Re: Kage
I get different boss position, which causes him to move further when he does his punch attack. Currently trying to reduce it. I should be 3 frames faster. WIP: User movie #31165235166765735
Von: Xipo
An: TASeditor
Verfasst am: 2016-05-27 11:50:46
Titel: Re: Kage Nachricht zitieren
ye,I have try my best.It is hard to change BOSS's behaviour.Maybe you will lost one hit(9 frame later).But I think it doesn't matter.
Von: TASeditor
An: Xipo
Verfasst am: 2016-05-27 21:50:38
Titel: Re: Kage
I now understand it, it is the X camera which makes the boss jump at different locations.
Von: Xipo
An: TASeditor
Verfasst am: 2016-05-28 03:02:27
Titel: Re: Kage Nachricht zitieren
I find that in your run,BOSS appears at 32929 and you can hit him first at 33266.33266-32929=337.
And in my run,BOSS appears at 33205 and I can hit him first at 33541.33541-33205=336.
It means I can hit him one frame faster than you.It is this one frame make me hit him once more than you too.
Do you think whether we should do something to change it?
Von: Xipo
An: TASeditor
Verfasst am: 2016-05-28 03:51:49
Titel: Re: Kage Nachricht zitieren
I think we maybe pay close attention to how to control BOSS.
RAM $07F8 is 176 before BOSS appear.Yes,please make $07F8 other value,for example make $07F8 2.
Von: Xipo
An: TASeditor
Verfasst am: 2016-05-29 02:29:10
Titel: Re: Kage Nachricht zitieren
http://dehacked.2y.net/microstorage.php/info/1259689437/Kage%201player%20TAS%205-2b%20fixed.fm2
Continue it.BOSS RUSH will reduce some frames.^^
Von: TASeditor
An: Xipo
Verfasst am: 2016-05-29 10:26:51
Titel: Re: Kage
I already saved many frames using my old input. I'm still 2 frames slower.
Making 7F8 to 2 did not change anything.
The second last jump the boss make is where I'm losing time.
Von: Xipo
An: TASeditor
Verfasst am: 2016-05-30 02:57:06
Titel: Re: Kage Nachricht zitieren
ye,sorry,I am wrong.Now how is your run?5-2 stage is very nice,the action and dance are interesting.
Von: TASeditor
An: Xipo
Verfasst am: 2016-06-01 13:47:32
Titel: Re: Kage
I did it without delaying a frame. But I want to make the fight more pretty.
The TAS is improved by over 4 seconds, more than I was expecting, haha.
I'll submit the next days. Thanks for being helpful.