The other one didn't, either (in fact, it aimed for something entirely unrelated; to demonstrate the game and many of the bugs in the engine, not beat it quickly) ... but excuse me for liking that one more.
I can't see how this one doesn't aim for speed moreso than the prior one. Aside from one or two places, few things seemed slow.
I really love how my opinions clash with everybody here. I should try voting yes some time, that'd be fun to see
In that case I'm certainly confused as to what you think entertainment is. My best guess is that you think entertainment is when you feel you are being educated. Something which people familar with the game/engine don't need.
I guess, but then again I've watched several SMB1-glitch hacks (99% of Sistermind (youtube)'s videos), so I'm quite familiar with how most work ...
Especially with primarily glitch-abuse TASes, I like it more when they are a creative demonstration of most of the glitches, rather than ones that only abuse two or three to skip the entire game.
Things like Super Metroid and Rockman 1 are also entertaining for me, as is the SMW-96 and Tecmo Bowl movies.
You could say my taste varies depending on what kind of TAS I figure the game deserves.
I think I've figured it out: I hate Air 2.
For obsoleting Air 1: I vote "no".
For side-publishing: I vote "meh".
This version is better. But I still find Air1's movie to be far more enjoyable to watch, even Bisqwit's "drill though ceilings and skip everything" version.
Addendum: Genisto's version shows many more glitches only showable (in Air 1 or 2) with infinite jumping, such as the floating koopa and other things. It also demonstrates many more glitches, such as damage while in pipes, damage after the flagpole, and other misc. oversights in the game engine (undoing pit death) ... Air 2 is more limited and a typical "glitch-abuse" game.
That is, Air 1 allows much more freedom, and I believe Genisto's movie exercises that freedom perfectly.
So a run that purposely doesn't run for 100% pure speed is "incompetent"?? I'll be damned!
The run clearly does not play for pure speed. I hope your not trying to be sentimental of the previous movie.
The other one didn't, either (in fact, it aimed for something entirely unrelated; to demonstrate the game and many of the bugs in the engine, not beat it quickly) ... but excuse me for liking that one more.
I can't see how this one doesn't aim for speed moreso than the prior one. Aside from one or two places, few things seemed slow.
I really love how my opinions clash with everybody here. I should try voting yes some time, that'd be fun to see.** OBVIOUSLY SARCASTIC TONE COLOR CODING *
okay, seriously, what significant portion of the game, other than the beginning of 4-3, did I skip?
"skipping" = "ignoring". that is, running over the top of the ceiling, or ignoring the intent of the puzzles (e.g. 100 coins)
Which was done rather often.
I vote yes in the context of this being an improvement to a published movie.
This is more like a revision of air rather than a sequel. The things about the game that were changed contribute to a more publish-worthy TAS (such as the removal of infinite jumps).
In addition, this TAS looks faster and more competent (and therefore more impressive) than the published air movie.
I agree with mushroom's choice to do some of the harder strategies rather than run on the top of the level. These speed entertainment tradeoffs made for a better TAS.
So a run that purposely doesn't run for 100% pure speed is "incompetent"?? I'll be damned!
upthorn wrote:
I vote no in the context of this replacing Genisto's run. Genisto's run didn't aim for speed, and the invisible blocks in it were just that -- invisible. Genisto's run also demonstrates a mario engine glitch which is impossible to perform in this version of the hack, because of the mid-air jump ability being removed.
Also, it is much more entertaining to me to see the puzzles solved than to see the player jump out through the cieling and run across the level.
This is my opinion exactly.
I vote "no". Genisto's Air 1 is fun to watch. This movie of Air 2 basically runs though everything, skipping everything that made the hacked game different and interesting to watch in the first place.
The addition of non-invisible ... invisible blocks removes a lot of the suprise/mystery that the old version had, as well.
As CtrlAltDestroy suggested on IRC, we need a "Put all the crappy flash games in this thread" thread. There's been a rush of new topics made to link to flash games that are sometimes viewed as crappy, sometimes not.
There you go .. we now have a semi-official thread for these links.
Note that this topic isn't limited to flash games. As for the crappy youtube videos thread, sometimes people post videos that aren't crappy and sometimes they post videos that aren't hosted on youtube. You can post games that aren't flash (like downloadable games) and you can also post games that aren't crappy.
The main problem with Conglomo-threads is that you quite often end up with no discussion about any particular game.
So instead of discussing a topic until it isn't warranted and letting the crappy ones die, you basically remove discussion from all of them.
I just speak from experience. Conglomothreads tend to be nothing but link archives, whereas individual threads tend to lead to more in-depth discussion (high scores, strategies, whatever).
A flood of semi-related topics is not best kept under control with a massive thread. But then again, I suppose that is just my experience.
Doesn't include the extra levels (2-x, 3-x, etc), voting no.
Some parts just seemed like wasted time (shots hitting platforms instead of Bowser, etc) as well.
This movie sucks. Voting no.
Oh wait, nevermind. This one's actually fun to watch, complete with a ton of utterly fucked up plays and all kinds of other nonsense. I'm voting yes.
Imagine that.
I used to have a Christmas version of my old Pinball Quest avatar, but it's long gone, it seems. (Damn, because I liked that one...)
Oh well... I'd use that if I knew where it was, but for now, the Christmas version of my avatar is... none! There isn't one.
I like JXQ's, though. Subtle. Superjupi's is also really good, at least from a distance. :P
(Also, good bye Philotron, hello even-more-annoying image)
I still think going on missions is a silly aspect of the LDS church (and since half of my family is Mormon...) but whatever works, I guess. If they want to do it...
My cousin went to Ecuador, so just be glad you didn't get sent to Middle of Fucking Nowhere, ZQ (or some other stupid country).
...although I'm still shocked it's two years long. That seems like... a long time. Eh.
And please no responses to Xkeeper's statement please.
There's nothing to comment on. I haven't watched the movie, I didn't find it stupidly pointless or anything else, I'm voting No just to be a jerk for Comicalflop.
I still think the idea behind this run is stupid, but there's no point in fighting the "must be as fast as possible go go go" mentality any more; it's been made obvious that's all this is now.
But yeah, whatever. I actually forgot the entire concept of what happene last time until you brought that up, heh.
I am voting no because Comicalflop seems to think I will, and I don't want to disappoint.
I haven't watched the movie, nor do I intend to until it's inevitably published.
*201120» <Comicalflop> careful, we frown on people that vote before watching :-p
*201133» <andrew_g> like I'm going to vote "no"
*201143» <BagOfMagicFood> yeah
*201150» <andrew_g> and you frown upon people who vote no on fantastic runs
*201154» <Comicalflop> I know, but still......
*201201» <BagOfMagicFood> don't open voting until 6 minutes after the movie shows up
*201205» <Comicalflop> "watch before voting" is a rule for a reason
*201301» <Comicalflop> actually, you know who would vote no on it... either xkeeper or necroVMX
*201312» <BagOfMagicFood> necroVMXkeeper
I'm all for entertaining movies that throw out the speed requirement, but even I couldn't make sense out of this.
It looks like you're getting frustrated because you can't do a sloppy job since somebody already did it better. Uh...
Yeah, you make no sense.
I have quite a dilemma. I accedentelly started a run of Lady Sia on a rom called...
Lady Sia (U) (M6) (o1)
I know that overdumps aren't allowed, but the only other rom is a Europe rom, and for some unknown reason, Europe roms always screw up my computer. Don't ask me why it happens, cause I have no idea. I already finished the first level, but now I don't know if I'd be allowed to submit the run since it's an overdump. My question is that would it be okay to submit this? Because I'd have to quit the project otherwise, and I was really wanting to run this game.
It's assumed that an overdump can probably be corrected with no ill effects by trimming the ROM and correcting the header data. Your milage may vary.
I scourered the ROM set I have available, but there isnt any Lady Sia (U) ROM. Are you sure it was released in the US?
It solves everything!
