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Posted: 11/3/2006 8:35 PM
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dezbeast
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Yep, that's it. Maybe you should try hex editing that trick in every doorway you could do it or maybe even start your run over again. I think you could save 10-15 frames each doorway you could do it.
Posted: 11/3/2006 1:54 PM
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dezbeast
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You don't have to worry about me quitting. Barring death or unfortunate events, as long as I get enough positive support I will continue until done. I'll post a WIP once I get past the first dungeon.
Posted: 11/3/2006 12:32 AM
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O goody. Here's my plan. I'm going to play up to a certain point just to see how well Vespa optimized what he got so far. And if his run is good enough, I'll continue where he left off. One thing that does worry me is that he says luck manipulation is very difficult in this game.
Posted: 11/2/2006 8:27 PM
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Vespa gave me the ok to work on Seasons, so I'm starting this.
Posted: 11/2/2006 5:31 PM
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Oh yeah and don't let the recording date of my WIP mislead you. It's actually an add on to a test I was conducting. I actually didn't restart until over a week afterward. I just decided to add on to my test when I found that hex editing was taking longer than I thought it would. That's also one of the reasons I didn't wobble down the first doorway.
Posted: 11/2/2006 9:50 AM
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Well I apologize, but I did let you know that I was going to fix all the errors in my run if I decided to redo part of the Eastern Palace. And you were the one that convinced me to redo part of the Eastern Palace. Otherwise I would've just continued on. It would have taken just as long to hex edit. I have other things I do besides working on this run.
Posted: 11/1/2006 4:10 PM
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dezbeast
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Erokky, I found that the bomb doesn't save time. With perfect enemy manipulation just using Flag's strategy is several frames faster. Hopefully I'll get done the Desert Palace by the end of the day.
Posted: 10/31/2006 12:47 PM
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I originally used my PS2 controller for TASing, but I found the regular ol' keyboard to be a lot more easier on my fingers.
Posted: 10/30/2006 7:45 AM
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Since I'm aiming for 100%, I skipped the blue boomerang to get the red one later on in a chest that otherwise wouldn't have it if I had grabbed the blue one. It's a lot faster to do that than to swim to the fairy and wait for her to exchange the blue boomerang for the red one. As of now I'm in the middle of the Desert Palace.
Posted: 10/30/2006 6:04 AM
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Cool. Good to see you continue this game.
Posted: 10/17/2006 5:32 PM
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Very nice indeed! A clear yes vote.
Posted: 10/16/2006 9:09 PM
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dezbeast
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I tried playing around with the memory watching feature but I never really built a liking to it. Perhaps if there were a way to leave it open while I advance frames like on vba, I would put it to use. I'll go ahead and keep those values in mind in case it's easier to know Link's position. Also I wasn't aware of the steps bug until I analyzed your WIP more closely. I didn't do it on the steps in the throne room. I only wobbled diagonally. Edit: Yes! I got it. I wasn't pressing Watch. Nice feature.
Posted: 10/16/2006 4:55 PM
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I saved 14 frames on the steps. 2 frames where I got the first key by charging sword left as opposed to up. 8 frames by charging sword before getting past the guard (trick I learned from your WIP). Back in the room where I got the first key, I failed to wobble while getting out of doorway, lost about 4 frames their. In the throne room I think I gained another 10 frames on the steps. One neat little trick that I didn't do in my previous WIP was manipulating the position of the enemies in the previous room to manipulate enemy behavior in the next room instead of delaying frames before entering the next room. I think I saved at least 10 frames by doing that. I didn't lose time walking in the water because I was wobbling diagonally, but in the second to last room before the sanctuary I lost a lot of time, because not only did I not go through the pot, but I also failed to wobble when going left. I think I gained about 15 frames at that part. And of course the wobbling down doorways trick, which put me a ahead 2 frames each doorway I could do it. Every thing else is just more precise movement. Making sure I either begin or end going 2 pixels when walking down or right. The only way to begin going right or down 2 pixels is if you are one pixel away from a corner, then you could press right or down to use up the 1 pixel and then you could go 2 pixels right away. And testing which way I begin the wobble to get to next room earlier. Sometimes I get there earlier by pressing up+down or left+right first. Sometimes it's faster to just press up or left first.
Posted: 10/16/2006 3:57 PM
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I decided to start over instead of hex editing since it probably would take just as long since I have to manipulate all the enemies over again. So far I'm a whopping 100 frames faster than my previous WIP up to the Master key in the Eastern Palace. I'll try to work more frequently on this so I could get to where your at sooner.
Posted: 10/8/2006 2:53 AM
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dezbeast
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I liked what I seen. A yes vote from me. Good job.
Posted: 10/7/2006 12:51 AM
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dezbeast
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That particular door Link already walks out automatically. I'm referring to the ones where you have to walk out of manually. It seems to only work in dungeons. It works in the castle also. I tested to see if it would work at Link's house but it didn't.
Posted: 10/6/2006 10:39 PM
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dezbeast
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Ha Ha! I loved playing this game as a kid. A definate yes vote. Thank you for bringing back some good memories.
Posted: 10/6/2006 9:29 PM
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dezbeast
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Erokky, I'm not sure if you know this already, but I just discovered that wobbling left & right when going down out of doorways in dungeons causes Link to move 2 pixels per frame as long as he's in the doorway. It doesn't work going right though.
Posted: 10/4/2006 6:57 AM
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dezbeast
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Ah, don't mind my name mistakes, it's been over 12 years since I mastered this game. So I'm just re~learning what everything's called. You've given me a different perspective on the route. I'll definately factor in your suggestions. I have no questions as of yet, but I should after I look more into this.
Posted: 10/3/2006 9:47 PM
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dezbeast
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I'm done planning a basic route. The light world is pretty straightforward, but once I get to the dark world it gets real disjointed and confusing. I'm not 100% confident of this route, so let me know if there is a better one. Sanctuary- heart container Eastern Palace Pegasus boots, s+q to Link's house 1st heart piece/Book of Mudora or vice versa, s+q to Link's house Desert palace- 2nd heart piece 3rd heart piece, s+q to Sanctuary Death Mountain- 4th heart piece, Mountain Tower, 5th heart piece, s+q to Sanctuary Lost Woods- 6th heart piece, mushroom, Master Sword, s+q to Link's house Pyramid- 7th heart piece Dark palace, s+q to pyramid flute, 8th heart piece, 9th heart piece (digging game) Kakariko Village- 1st & 2nd bottle, 10th & 11th heart piece, net (haven't tested which order is fastest) Village of Outcasts- 12th heart piece and 250/500 rupees (depending on how many rupees I have up to this point) from Game of Chance, Gargoyle's Hideout magic cape, 13th & 14th & 15th heart piece, 16th heart piece (lumberjacks yard), s+q to Link's house (to warp to pyramid) magic powder, quake medallion, flippers, 17th heart piece, s+q to mountain cave ether medallion, bird warp to Kakariko Village Village of Outcasts- red boomerang reunite blacksmiths, 18th heart piece, magic consumption upgrade, tempered sword, grab locked chest, bird warp to Link's house 3rd bottle, Bombos Medallion, bird warp to Kakariko Village Skull Dungeon, s+q to Pyramid last bottle (under bridge), 19th heart piece, Ice Palace, bird warp to desert Swamp Palace, 20th & 21st heart piece, bird warp to get ice rod ice rod, s+q to Link's house 22nd heart piece, Water Dungeon, Fat Fairy, s+q or bird warp to mountain (whichever's faster) Cane of Byrna Turtle Rock- 23rd heart piece, mirror shield last heart piece Ganon's Tower- red mail Do you still think I should redo the Eastern Palace to get the bomb?
Posted: 10/2/2006 5:08 AM
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dezbeast
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erokky wrote:
I was just wondering, when are you going to loot Kakariko (2 jars, net, heart, etc)? In my opinion, it's best to get them after you get your flute in the dark world, just before doing crystal 4.
Yeah its probably best to do that since I already have to be in the middle of the village to get the bird. Right now I'm trying determine if I should beat the dungions in the same order that Flag did.
Posted: 10/1/2006 7:32 AM
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dezbeast
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The only time I could use IM is when my brother is not using his laptop or if I go to the library. Otherwise, I'm stuck posting with my PSP. My computer doesn't have internet access unfortunately. I'm seriously thinking about fixing all the errors in my whole run. Starting with the steps outside the castle. It does kind of annoy me now that I'm aware of them. If I decide to redo parts of the Eastern Palace I'm going to go ahead fix all my other errors. I'll see after I figure out a route.
Posted: 9/30/2006 6:47 PM
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dezbeast
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erokky wrote:
Thanks dezbeast for the new strategies.
Well those minor tricks pales in comparison to all the tricks I learned from watching your WIP and Flag's. So thank you both. Anyway, I'm in the process of playing through the whole game to figure out a basic route. When I'm done I'll post the route and see if you can determine a quicker one. I'm also doing this to test to see if I can get the red boomerang anywhere before completing the Gargoyle's Domain.
Posted: 9/29/2006 2:17 AM
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dezbeast
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So it saves time to get the bomb and use it on them despite the fact that I have to waste over 60 frames going into the menu? Not to mention having to stop dashing and go a bit out of the way to get the bomb. Also wouldn't it be better to get that heart piece after getting the bombos medallion?
Posted: 9/28/2006 2:08 AM
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dezbeast
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Phil wrote:
- Aims for fastest time Like I said it's not true. A faster movie exists.
That's for the black and white version. I'm quite sure the fastest possible time for the DX is much longer. I think that tag is true, because he does so while keeping in mind the other goals.
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