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Post subject: Operation C
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I make a quick test run through this lesser known Contra game. I exploited a glitch in levels 2 and 4 which allow me to pass staight through solid objects by pressing Up/Down Left/Right at the same time. Any feedback would be appreciated before I start the final run. http://dehacked.2y.net/microstorage.php/info/929/Operation%20C%20%28U%29%20%5B%21%5D.vbm
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The movie is looking outstanding JXQ, keep up the great work! The way you lowered your energy for the crystal flash seemed very efficient, but I was wondering if it is at all possible to circumvent the crystal flash altogether. I was thinking that if you fired a super missile before entering the little alcove and somehow got Samus to keep up with the missile, it would be possible to break the barrier. Say for example you run from the very left of the screen, build up a shinespark, jump, fire a supermissle, and then mockball into the small alcove; the screen would scroll over far enough and fast enough to register the missile as a hit. Of course I don’t know much about the physics of this game so I could be wrong.
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Excellent movie, guys. Even though it was difficult to keep up with what was happening, it looked absolutly flawless. With 3 megaman runs under his belt, what will AngerFist do next? :)
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Based on JXQ's wips and Saturn's teasers, there is no doubt in my mind that both runs will be of incredible quality.
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I am glad you liked it, but I was wondering what you mean by noticeable errors? From the rerecord count it is clear that I didn't do alot of frame testing and therefore it isn't frame perfect, but I do not believe there are any mistakes that can be seen by the average viewer. One day I will remake this movie with perfect frame precision (which will require many months to do), but I am waiting to see if any there are actually any obvious mistakes before I start. Even with frame precision this movie will not be improved by more than 5 minutes unless something new to me is found.
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Oh ok that makes sense, very nice strategy FractalFusion! This would definitly bring the input time to around 25 seconds. Edit: I recorded a very unoptimized run using an easy new trade strategy and got a movie 28 seconds in length. It is likely that FractalFusion's method will yield a shorter movie, if not I may clean this one up and submit it.
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Fractal I had the exact same idea, but after running the numbers through my head a few times, I dont think it is possible (if I understand your idea correctly). Here is why: From vermont avenue the CPU needs to roll doubles just to take a second turn. It is 9 spaces to community chest which would mean he would not be able to roll again. Not only that, but with 12 houses at $40 dollars a pop for the comunity chest repair card, he would owe $480. He would be able to mortgage all his houses for $300, and the 3 blue properties for $160. If he was allowed to purchase a second street property, he could mortgage that and easily pay off the extra $20 owed.
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the orange monopoly will require 5 rolls of the dice to obtain and trade, 4 human & 1 computer. If you go for the dark purple monopoly the rolls are reduced to 4. H:1+2=baltic C:6+4=visit jail H:2+2=chance to boardwalk H:1+1=mediteranean Ollie is a total moron, willing to trade all his money for just 1 of the dark purple properties. Another idea which I didn't bother to test so it may not work, puts ollie on baltic and then the human obtains boardwalk and mediteranean. Ollie may purchse the properties for all his money, which would reduce the total amount of turns to 3.
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Yes the movie would be less entertaining with trading in it, but there is still alot of luck manipulation which makes it impossible to duplicate on a console. I dont really intend on running this game anymore, I just want to give ideas to people who are still trying.
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Thats awsome FractalFusion, 25 seconds is great. Your strategy intrigues me though. The most you can obtain in a single trade is $930, which means you some how found a way for the computer to lose $570 within three (or four) dice rolls. Good luck with getting the final turn manipulated, I would love to see this game drop below 30 seconds. Edit: I couldn't figure out what your strategy is FractalFusion, but in the process of thinking I discovered a legitimate way to beat the current record. It involves the trading process but only requires one trade as well. I don't think my method would be 25 seconds though, more likely 28-29 seconds.
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I just found a way to bankrupt the cpu within 9 seconds (the entire movie is only 9 seconds), but it involves a controversial method. If you press Start and select at the same time, an option appears on the board which says "which player am I talking to" if you select the computer players name, you can control thier actions while in the select menu. At this point you can trade all thier cash to player1 and since you are also player1 you can accept the transaction. Afterwards the computer is left with $0 and he must land on a space which costs money, only then will he go bankrupt. Should this method be allowed in a run, or is it considered cheating?
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Yea that looks great so far Bablo, nice to see that glitch put to good use. Do you plan on doing a run for each character, or are you just going to do a rockman run?
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Did you read my mind JXQ? That was my original goal :)
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Sorry to let you down Angerfist. ;)
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I think Donkey Kong is known to be optimal
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Great job Acmlm, You win the monopoly wars! I am done with this game for now and will most likely never play it again. It will be interesting to see how much lower those 32 can go, if it can go lower at all.
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Awsome run Megafrost, that fight with the omega metroid at the end was sick. Ever considered doing any other metroid games ;)
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The computer player would mortgage the property, but he would only get $50 for it. One less house is $200 less charged to the computer player when he lands on it. 11 houses is the therefore the minimum
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why do you think this will be obsoleted? Theoretically is can only be improved by 53 frames, and thats with 100% perfect luck (which is impossible). If it gets beaten, I will cancel it like last time. There is no need to get mad about any of this.
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Phil, since the token moves only 6 spaces instead of 10 the animation sequence is slightly shorter.
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Competition breeds perfection. Its not like we are fighting each other. The war is a friendly war, and each improvement is motivation to improve the movie further.
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Congrats man. Perfection is very close now, for this strategy at least. But lets hope this war never ends.
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While attempting to beat the current monopoly record, I found a different method to bankrupt the computer player. Basically once you obtain a monopoly, the computer is willing to trade all his cash to purchase the monopoly from you. If you mortgage the monopoly and then trade it, the computer cannot afford the tax for the mortgaged properties and he is automatically bankrupted. I found it hilarious to see how stupid the Computer player A.I. is. Anyways here is a frame-perfect movie of it in action, 4 seconds slower than the current record by Phil. http://dehacked.2y.net/microstorage.php/info/873/Monopoly%20%28U%29.fcm
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flawless and entertaining movie, clear yes vote
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Yea man your run rocks so far, there is so much going on its hard for me to keep up. Keep up the awsome work!
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