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Posted: 4/10/2011 10:59 PM
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moozooh
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Ok, here's a recap. A group of Japanese TASers have improved the previous run by three frames, one frame per instance. However, the camera work in their run wasn't received well at all due to annoying zooming and angle choices making it nearly impossible to tell what was going on. The argument presented by those who are NOT in favor of this run obsoleting the previous is that the camera work makes this movie so much less entertaining three frames can't possibly make up for that. Thus, considering it was a stylistic choice and not a prerequisite for those frames to be saved, it was suggested the authors fix it instead. The arguments presented by those who ARE in favor of this run obsoleting the previous, boil down to three things: 1) rejecting this submission would be rude to the authors as they have exerted much effort making it; 2) this is a speedrun site, entertainment doesn't matter; 3) you have to TAS SM64 to be able to vote no (voting yes, however, is perfectly alright), and people doing that are idiots.
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Posted: 4/10/2011 9:21 PM
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moozooh
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Dude, by your logic you shouldn't vote unless you are a politician yourself.
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Posted: 4/10/2011 3:48 PM
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Well, hopefully not everybody is so immature as to go sulk in a corner after a first case of public critique, right?
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Posted: 4/10/2011 3:22 PM
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ALAKTORN wrote:
it's kind of gay that they tried to make their run unique and everyone hates on them though
It's also kind of gay you still think people hate on them in the first place.
jlun2 wrote:
But this would force the TASer's to redo the ENTIRE movie, which is highly demotivating.
Well, if the TASers produce the movies for themselves, they can do whatever they want and nobody would have a right to say anything. If the TASer produces the movies for an audience, the audience has a say in what it likes or dislikes. TASvideos is a site that exists for its audience in the first place, which is why there is a judging system installed in the submission process.
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Posted: 4/10/2011 2:03 PM
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moozooh
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Nahoc, that argument doesn't hold water. If I don't like what J. K. Rowling writes, I won't buy her books; i. e., I'll be voting with my wallet. If I'm not entertained by camera angles in the submission — something that the authors had complete control over — I'll be voting with a system specifically designed for it. The general argument against this submission isn't about three frames being too little to publish it. It's about entertainment value of this run being too low compared to the previous one that these three frames don't warrant the replacement. There's a significant trade-off that didn't have to be. In the case with SMB there was no trade-off; on the opposite, it was an improvement on both counts. We have a very similar precedent here.
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Posted: 4/10/2011 11:24 AM
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Dear authors, Please change the camera angles to something more stylish and sensible, and resubmit so that we — the audience — could vote yes on this fruit of labor. :)
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Edit: I think I understand now: It's my avatar, isn't it? It makes me look angry.
Posted: 4/10/2011 11:20 AM
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moozooh
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This run is somewhat underappreciated (for one, I've yet to see a comment from adelikat), but it does raise some doubts whether it can't be pushed further. If stage 6 is indeed slower it may be because player 2 lagged behind too much, making the screen scroll longer (in which case it would probably make sense to suicide p2 at some of the vertical jumping sections). Then again, there might have been another reason. Can the jumping height glitch normally used in stage 2 be used elsewhere? Also, player 2 needs more attention. This run perfectly encapsulates stylish and entertaining interaction between two players. There might be less opportunities for that in Contra, but I think more good things could be done. That being said, I vote yes. Improving upon one of the better and more researched runs by adelikat is no easy feat, especially for the first submission.
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Posted: 4/10/2011 10:41 AM
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moozooh
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I didn't notice the three frame improvement. It would have been impossible for me to notice that. I did notice the changes in camera work, and didn't like it at all. It would have been impossible for me not to notice it. To sum up, three frames of improvement are absolutely not worth the much worse overall presentation. I never felt this site was only about making an arbitrary number on an arbitrary page go lower. Voting no.
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Posted: 4/9/2011 9:34 PM
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I love you.
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Posted: 4/9/2011 1:25 PM
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/nick CrazyFist.
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Posted: 4/8/2011 2:55 PM
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Spreader would normally fire in bursts and cool down until the amount of bullets on the screen is reduced to a certain minimum, so one needs to maintain a steady flow of bullets to keep their frequency at the maximum.
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Posted: 4/7/2011 4:55 PM
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I love you.
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Edit: I think I understand now: It's my avatar, isn't it? It makes me look angry.
Posted: 4/6/2011 7:45 PM
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moozooh
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I have no gripes with this movie, but please do note that when adelikat did the exact same thing with Circus Charlie, he did not list himself as a coauthor. Edit: Apparently arukAdo made a note on this in the submission text simultaneously with my post.
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Posted: 4/5/2011 1:28 PM
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Depends on the source of randomness. If it's deterministic, it should always (?) sync unless the mechanism that generates the numbers required for a run to sync is emulated inaccurately. Such as, if a randomness depends on absolute frame timer, a difference of one frame during a fadeout, laggy scene, or some kind of loading, throws the synchronization off completely.
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Posted: 4/5/2011 12:16 PM
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That's a shame. :( How far did the Mega Man movies go?
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Posted: 4/4/2011 8:55 PM
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This is a hack of the ROM, as you're modifying the content of the ROM, there's nothing really to consider. :P
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Posted: 4/3/2011 6:12 PM
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Seems like the thread made a turn for the better. :D
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Posted: 4/2/2011 8:33 AM
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moozooh
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Guys why are you showboating guys? :( (The Ask Flygon one was excellent, imo.)
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Posted: 4/1/2011 11:08 PM
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Ah damn, should have remembered. At least I remember everybody else. :)
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Posted: 4/1/2011 8:58 PM
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Remind me, who's the guy to the left of JXQ? (Question not directed at Deign.)
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Posted: 4/1/2011 9:13 AM
Post subject: Re: #3072: Dessyreqt's SNES Uniracers "any%, "GT Code"" in 00:11.57
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CoolKirby wrote:
Is adelikat a dinosaur now?
Well, he's one of the eldest members here, you know. >_>
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Posted: 4/1/2011 9:10 AM
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Posted: 3/29/2011 2:30 PM
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moozooh
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Our forum guidelines suggest having only one topic per game unless absolutely necessary. I've merged them.
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Posted: 3/29/2011 9:39 AM
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You are missing the point. There is a certain hierarchy of objectives accepted on the site to determine consistency of the goals an author chooses. Let me illustrate. Scenario #1: game X, which contains an insignificant amount of text, has a trick on the Japanese version making it faster, with no other differences. The author would be encouraged to use the Japanese version. Why? Because speed is more important. J > U. Case in point: Contra: The Hard Corps. Scenario #2: game Y, which is long and contains significant amount of unskippable text, can be made shorter by the means of choosing the Japanese version as Japanese text needs less time to be displayed, otherwise having no differences. The author would be encouraged to use the English version. Why? Because if the text is unskippable, you may as well have it readable and have the speed be expressed via actual gameplay. U > J. Case in point: Ocarina of Time. Scenario #3: game Z, which has a significant amount of skippable text is run on the English version, but the author chooses not to skip any cutscenes, letting the audience read the text, explaining his decision with entertainment reasons. Now how quickly do you think such a run would be rejected disregarding the version choice? (Three days, duh.) Why? Because speed is more important. Scenario #4: game Z again, except in this case the author skips the cutscenes but makes a "story" version to complement it. Naturally he would choose the English release then. U > J. Case in point: Ninja Gaiden II.
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Posted: 3/29/2011 9:10 AM
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Warp wrote:
If one of the main reasons to prefer the U version is the language (because the vast majority of viewers understand English, only a small minority Japanese), it would seem quite inconsistent to prefer the J versio over the E version when the U one is not an option. Why is the language suddenly not an issue anylonger?
Because letting, let alone encouraging, the audience to read a game's text has never been a primary objective of any speedrun. If that were to be consistent it would interfere with other, more important goals (i. e., speed or precision) and you would then present the carbon copy of this argument with its variables changed to represent the goals that would suddenly not be an issue then. There's no pleasing everybody.
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