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Posted: 3/14/2005 1:28 AM
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i dont think the point is to be original, it is to make the best possible battletoads video. and for someone who has never seen either jumps, a jump out of the screen is more impressive in my opinion.
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Posted: 3/13/2005 3:41 PM
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it was me who said to open the controller cover, truncated if you push the d-pad too hard it may break :S theres a central pin sort of thing to avoid both directions being pushed at same time
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Posted: 3/13/2005 3:34 PM
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I got mushroom at 1-2 instead of 1-1 and both routes seem to use same exact amount of frames at end of 1-2 apperently (mushroom in 1-1 vs mushroom in 1-2). On not very optimized runs... that is bad, i will have to optimize BOTH routes to know which is faster. but getting muhsroom in 1-1 makes a nicer move, gets +300 points + 1 coin and kills +2 turtles.
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Posted: 3/13/2005 11:43 AM
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phil i'm impressed. level 4 was done so elite, the running jump move is amazing. my complaint is about level 2 you could have played around with the beak crows why did you hit them once only? on level 3 why didnt you fully do the bike jump over the top of the screen? on level 4 why didnt you grab the extra life? you could've thrown the ice block earlier... and on level 5 you could have been closer to the swirls on the water, but you only cared to have 1 health left. and why didnt you jump over all of the logs? it seems that you are not very concerned with the show off aspect, being so fast is a great show off, but you could do it too at parts that dont require speed. i have only 1 question about speed: on level 4 on the last section, you fall from the warp plataform, go left, pass the 2 barriers and spiked shell, then you go up. on that moment the sprites below disappear, did you test if its faster to go back to the main pit to the exit back through the lower route?
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Posted: 3/12/2005 8:47 PM
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bisqwit already did fortress 14 frames faster than i did, that was just a test run. i havent even tested if mushroom in 1-2 can be taken, thats why i didnt try anything on level 1-1 yet
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Posted: 3/12/2005 7:03 PM
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I never stopped holding down. mario got up because i was holding down + left or right on some frames, so you dont need to be ducking, just holding down for the set number of frames needed is enough (exactly 240 frames, that is 4 seconds) When you dont have the leaf and you have P-speed you can maintain p-speed by jumping even if you stop moving horizontally at max speed. But when you have the leaf, the jump stops horizontal acceleration in the air, you start to fly at the horizontal speed you currently are when starting the jump. So, i cant jump to maintain p-speed when i have the leaf. Another issue about p-speed and flying is that if you get p-speed and then jump at max horizontal speed, then touch the ground and keep running without losing the p-speed, he wont open his arms again to be able to fly, you need to slow down from p-speed, and then gain all of p-speed again so the flying can work. Thats why at the fortress i waited untill the right moment to get p-speed because i still had a small jump to make before i could do the jump to start flying to the exit.
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Posted: 3/12/2005 6:52 PM
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i will remake from level 1, that is not an optimized run
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Posted: 3/12/2005 6:42 PM
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to get the coins at the top 286 what?
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Posted: 3/12/2005 3:58 PM
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it has to include the shooting because if you dont then the ending will take longer to end. the aim will just swing up and down till he goes away. test it if its slower, i'm almost sure it is. so, yes kill the ship
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Posted: 3/12/2005 1:03 AM
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oh thats it! thanx man that will help a lot :) it might be faster with that! tested, it is faster doing it michael fried's way :) much faster Edit: redownload v3. it finishes first fortress 3 seconds ahead. its sloppy, i will remake a lot of it but u get the idea, i cant get p-speed on the fortress untill its desired because if i get p-speed too early it will end too early and i wont have p-speed at the place i want it.
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Posted: 3/12/2005 12:55 AM
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taking the leaf on 1-2 is a much worse case than taking it at 1-3 because then i wouldnt be able to jump at p-speed never ever anymore. that musical note could be good to get the mushroom only. i havent tried it yet, its in my plans to see if its faster than mushroom in 1-1.
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Posted: 3/12/2005 12:50 AM
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lol i deserve that hehehe. good job
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Posted: 3/12/2005 12:43 AM
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here is the mushroom on 1-1 test run. its nowhere near as optimized as my v2 goes all the way past the fortress, i will remake everything to optimize http://www.angelfire.com/ex/uobt/smario3j-foda-v3.zip
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Posted: 3/12/2005 12:30 AM
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it always take same amount of time (as far as i know) what i do to change is touch the box on a different frame. so its a fixed amount of time after touching the box (i will test that if it changes anything by touching it low or high, which would mean mario touching the ground on a different frame, but i think it wont make a difference) edit: i thought of getting 99 lives and the rest of the enemies killed put on score instead of keep getting lives after 99 but that will require a lot more planning i dont know how much i can do about that i'm terrible at planning
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Posted: 3/11/2005 10:54 PM
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it doesnt, as far as i know. havent got there yet. maybe it will slow down with too many enemies on screen, but if theres no other way around then the movie will have to have slowdown. the video must be with 99 lives or then no video at all
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Posted: 3/11/2005 8:26 PM
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i'm mostly sure i didnt forget but maybe my rom is (U)(!) i will try again later
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Posted: 3/11/2005 8:21 PM
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funny, what rom was that? i tried doing it on super mario all stars + mario world (U) and it didnt work. because i knew i had done it before somewhere
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Posted: 3/11/2005 7:53 PM
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i had it to the end of the fortress, which is why i got the leaf early, but i re-recorded over it and i have it only up untill 1-3 which only shows a slower path (the time is gained at the fortress, but unfortunately, not enough to make it up) i will post it later
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Posted: 3/11/2005 2:17 PM
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use the hover on bees and robots, use punch on snakes and rats (level 2) he is making a new version, he should cancel this submission
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Posted: 3/11/2005 1:25 PM
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yes mostly by not using the beak :P there are over 100 beak hits on my movie :S using the feet doesnt stop the screen for that long, but you could have got more points even not using the beak? or it was something else?
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Posted: 3/11/2005 1:19 PM
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i have attempted to get the mushroom at 1-1 (the mushroom where you have to throw a red turtle shell on it) and that route was 30 frames slower than current route, but had a nice move which unfortunately wont be on the final thing. i will test more if i can get mushroom at 1-2 but i have tried a bit without success already.
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Posted: 3/11/2005 12:59 PM
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the rom i used Battletoads - Battlemaniacs (US)(26454).smc is compatible with your movie. all the way to the ending without desync
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Posted: 3/11/2005 5:14 AM
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its a trick used by people who need help to finish the game, its like picking easy mode and its a button code, i dont like it
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Posted: 3/11/2005 5:12 AM
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i still think the game is way too boring for a timeattack, except for level 1. A 1 player run is a bad choice, but its his first, so its ok for him to try it. i've shown him a way of doing level 1 quicker, but the other levels are impossible to make look entertainingon a 1 player run... imho.
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Posted: 3/11/2005 4:23 AM
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yea, i made the same question, theres no reason to do it and its against the site rules
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