nfq, on a scale of 1-10, just how serious are you?
it definitely doesnt exist.
and as I have found out, all of them are refuted by relatively simple deductions and Occam's razor .
Really, give me a robust, honest, and logical argument for believing in god, and I promise I will think about it.
meaning you live in sweden but were born in finland?
Okay... so, you believe in evolution, but ... you don't believe in evolution? That's confusing.
Okay, so you dismiss decades of scientific inquiry, thousands of papers written by experts in their field, who have made it their life's work to study their chosen field of science. You reject it all because it doesn't make sense, and you're too lazy to read about it so that you can make sense of it?
Do you care at all about what is true and what is fantasy?
I don't know if you could call it just a theory we accept as correct.
There is however no indication whatsoever that people preceive reality different.
nfq: where are you from?
How can you possibly know it's not true if you don't even know what it is about?
I know that God exists because I know that I know that I know that God exists.
"mythical beasts"?
The increase in human knowledge is explained by neither Lamarckian nor Darwinian evolution. It amazes me how so many people equate intelligence with knowledge.
The human brain has not changed much in tens of thousands of years. Humans living 20,000 years ago, for example, were not any less intelligent than humans are now.
Common sense tells us that a belief is necessarily useful if and only if it is true. A belief in any God must be either true or false.
You may not know where your beliefs come from, but they have been implanted in your from birth.
You have been told of a certain history and a future by your creators that is not true. The future where all human races will coalesce into one that will exterminate the original races and take over the Earth will not take place. There will be a war and the hybrid race will lose.
Why not take away the middleman and say the Universe has always existed?
I just know that it would be a big waste of time on my part and that talking to a brick wall would produce a more fruitful conversation.
I think you do not understand evolution. I suggest reading a book, or at least a good article, about it before you dismiss it completely.
That idea is called Lamarckism, and it is wrong.
Arguments for god? You make it sound like you believe in god (even though it's obvious you don't), and use weak arguments no single believer would give.
what when science finds and understands the origin of life? (I assume that it will, sooner or later.) Where will god hide when earthquakes, lightning, diseases and the origin of life is taken?
Blublu> Why is there something instead of nothing? I try not to think about this one too much.
Dogs evolved from wolves into all the little breeds you see today, from the meanest rottweiler to the tiniest poodly ratdog. The mechanism for selection was different, of course, men selected which animals would breed instead of nature, but everything else was exactly the same.
It has been proven a million times that evolution happens.
You could argue that some designer was behind the scenes, directing things, but that designer is not a theory, has no proof, nothing to test, and is also superfluous - not needed.
Besides, if you wanted to tackle the question of life in any honest way, you would have to ask the next question. Who created god?
Name a specific animal which COULD NOT have evolved.
I didn't ask you anything for a good reason; your arguments make no sense, and your ideas are uninteresting... they also aren't sincere. There is no point in responding to them.
Anyone who denies it is stupid for two reasons:
What's the problem?
I don't believe Trinity and actually think it's more spiritually harmful than helpful doctrine.
This is the stupidest and most useless thread in the entire site.
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?
she would still be thinking about the child, and it could hardly be called complete happiness.
You also made me wonder... aren't we already in God's presence when we are alive?
Any idea why it is a sin?
Replace "married" with "in love". People can still be in love in the afterlife right?
If your feelings aren't carried forward, wouldn't that mean you are someone different?
As far as animals going to heaven, I'm not sure about that.
What is clear, however, is that both male and female souls are alike in that they can be saved.
Why are so many atheists so obsessed in insulting and making fun of other people's beliefs?
it's inredible how many people take it as absolute truth, even though there is stuff about humans living to be over 900 years old, giants walking the earth etc.
If the Bible is the word of God and must be obeyded, why don't I see slaughtered goats at churches etc.?
If we're going to have multiple people discussing theology can we just make a topic
Did you consider ElectroSpecter was making a general statement, and not talking about God?
Since this includes your own thoughts and actions, I find that this is a type of paradox anyway, since "knowing" your own thoughts creates more thoughts, which you would have to have thoughts of, and these thoughts need thoughts, etc. forever. I just don't see how this is possible.
If God knowing humans' actions robs them of free will, why wouldn't you knowing humans' actions similarly rob them of free will?
You missed the point in my previous message, where I explained how the concept of "100% joy" in human life is an oxymoron.
No joy would exist either. I don't see that as a perfection.
Mathematically, I see perfection as infinity, and nothingness as zero. I think those are two very different concepts,
I don't see anything desirable in nothingness.
For example, if you order a pizza, and on his route to your house, the pizza delivery boy has a car accident, is it your fault, because you ordered the pizza and without your order, he wouldn't have had the accident? No, there's no way you could have known it will happen.
granting the player a warp directly into the ending of the game would make the whole game pointless.
True as you say, this life down here is never 100% of joy.
You need to have both lows and highs in order to see direction and have purpose.
God will shape us towards the way that enables the 100% joy mutually for everyone -- mostly by teaching us to rely on him, because he's perfect. :)
When you were a toddler, you very much wanted to exist.
You did everything you could to live and adapt to human society rules, starting from the first cry when being born.
Your saying "didn't want to exist" is an idea you have later adopted. Do you blame God for that?
You are misidentifying the causes of your frustration. Find them, and figure out how to heal them. It will improve the life of yours, and those whom you depend of and who depend of you.
Incorrect. This name is intentionally not the same as any existing word. It is spelled exactly right.