Post subject: There's an awfully large amount of movies with only 1 rating
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Looking at the Movie Statistics after a really long time not having checked them, I noticed that there's an awfully large amount of movies with only 1 rating. Come on people, rate a bit more. People like their movies rated. (Yeah, I know. I should be rating movies too... Maybe I'll spend some weekend watching and rating movies, at least those having only 1 or 2 ratings.)
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As long as movie ratings are subject to harassment from people like swordless, I'm certainly never going to do one. I have better things to waste my time on than yet another irc argument. (Or maybe I don't...)
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Actually, now that I just got done with a really large project, I'm hoping I'll have the time to overhaul movie pages. Perhaps a more accessible and noticeable rating system will help. Edit: Get yourself into our top 30! http://tasvideos.org/rating.exe/my/
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Don't know if it's just the RateYourMusic-junkie in me speaking, but I'd love the ability to post reviews on TASes.
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AKheon wrote:
Don't know if it's just the RateYourMusic-junkie in me speaking, but I'd love the ability to post reviews on TASes.
You can! Every single published movie has an associated discussion thread where you can post whatever kind of review you like.
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Reviews are a neat idea. Is it possible to do a test run of such functionality?
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moozooh wrote:
Reviews are a neat idea. Is it possible to do a test run of such functionality?
You mean like flag selected posts as a good review, and have it appear in a feed under the movie? Perhaps I can offer something like that.
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Well... not exactly what I had in mind. A "review-ish" post can contain things unrelated to the review subject, such as personal comments or questions directed at the author, or something else like that; this way users would have to construct their posts specifically to be tagged as reviews. It's not very comfortable in my opinion. I rather meant a text input field, say, somewhere on the publication's rating page, where a user could do a write up—they could copypaste their forum posts' content there if they so wished.
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i agree with moozooh and i never looked into how to rate movies,nor have had any interest at all.
TAS i'm interested: Megaman series, specially the RPGs! Where is the mmbn1 all chips TAS we deserve? Where is the Command Mission TAS? i'm slowly moving away from TASing fighting games for speed, maybe it's time to start finding some entertainment value in TASing.
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>>I rather meant a text input field, say, somewhere on the publication's rating page, where a user could do a write up Hear hear! Posting on the forum is one thing, posting a review is another.
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AKheon wrote:
Don't know if it's just the RateYourMusic-junkie in me speaking, but I'd love the ability to post reviews on TASes.
I like the idea, but it raises the question of who would select/moderate those reviews, and how (and who's going to write the necessary code for it...)
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Couldn't reviews go onto the wiki? Then you could format them, include extra screenshots, whatever. Linking them into the publications could simply be a matter of checking to see if a wiki node exists (e.g. wiki:GameReviews/GameName) and linking to it if it does; that node would then link to individual reviews. So if you wanted to add a review to a game that didn't have any, first you'd create wiki:GameReviews/GameName/ReviewByYourName with your review of the game; then you'd create wiki:GameReviews/GameName and add a link to the review on that node. Then the next time the cache gets flushed, the site would pick up that there are reviews for GameName and link them from the publication.
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I'd prefer creating a page for a game, and posting reviews inside the tabs or something.
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AKheon wrote:
>>I rather meant a text input field, say, somewhere on the publication's rating page, where a user could do a write up Hear hear! Posting on the forum is one thing, posting a review is another.
Something like newgrounds? www.newgrounds.com They can rate the submission.(It's a really weird system, you can vote many times on the submission, one per days) Then they have a review system under the submission.(You can review only one time and once it's sent to the database, it's final. You can't modify any content. If I'm not mistaking, the rates system and the review's rates are completely separated. Perhaps it's this kind of system you were looking for? Note that i gave newgrounds as a example only
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Shouldn't be too hard to tie a review to a movie in the backend. I have no immediate ideas on the GUI, such as where the user would click to get this form. Nor who would moderate it, but I'm sure we can find people to do it. I support this idea.
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This is my idea for a new way to rate movies to encourage more people to rate runs. (Please excuse the crudity of the animation.) It's simple and pretty fun to use. I don't know how hard it would be to implement though.
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The minimum that needs to happen is for something like that to be on the movie module itself. Clicking rate would open up a gui for selecting the values, rather than taking you to a new page. However, this requires coding, which we are severely bottlenecked on.
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Your suggestion lacks the option of not rating on one of the categories at all, which I think should probably remain an option.
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adelikat wrote:
The minimum that needs to happen is for something like that to be on the movie module itself. Clicking rate would open up a gui for selecting the values, rather than taking you to a new page.
This. Ideally, people should be able to rate the movie while still watching it (maybe near the end of playing it). Also. My dream is that this module would additionally pop up a tooltip-like list of "movies I rated", hinting the place this movie will take in this list if I confirm the current positions of sliders by clicking "Rate!". That list should only show 3 entries above and 3 entries below the movie, so I can quickly glance at the tooltip, remember the awesomeness of those old movies and compare the movie I just watched to those movies, then readjust my rating if needed, and after seeing its new place, confirm the rating. I think this feature would greatly encourage ratings and discourage manipulations, since people will be thinking in terms of their personal collection, and not in terms of average statistics of the site.
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AnS wrote:
since people will be thinking in terms of their personal collection, and not in terms of average statistics of the site.
Yes I agree, I would like to encourage people to think in terms of their personal collection.
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The first thing to be done about that is moving the most active raters tab to the end, and actually rated movies tabs to the beginning.
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adelikat wrote:
Yes I agree, I would like to encourage people to think in terms of their personal collection.
But you can't really ask people to do it, you can only create a background that makes it more comfortable to think in these terms and not the other.
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Warp wrote:
Your suggestion lacks the option of not rating on one of the categories at all, which I think should probably remain an option.
There could be checkboxes to the left of the sliders that are automatically checked, but can be unchecked to allow members to not rate in a certain category. To prevent abuse, if both boxes are unchecked, the rate button could become grayed out. And it would be great to have this on the publication page itself, as adelikat said.
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I would like a system like this and it would definitely encourage people to rate movies more.
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CoolKirby wrote:
To prevent abuse, if both boxes are unchecked, the rate button could become grayed out.
Abuse? Anyways, the current system allows for someone to not only change but also remove their rating (on one or both categories) if they so wish, for whatever reason. It's probably a good idea to retain the possibility. (Therefore the rate button should be enabled all the time.)