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Has there been any progress on this FrtostyTheDragon?
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There's been no progress on redoing this yet. I've been trying to finish playing a couple of games that I've left unfinished for too long, and also am writing a very extensive commentary for a recent run submitted to Speed Demos Archive. That, and the recent discovery of arcade/Neo-Geo game Shock Troopers (and also Shock Troopers 2nd Squad) has kind of sucked up my time (more from 2nd Squad than the original). I may give this another look tonight and see what I can get out of it.
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I was just curious because I don't want to start a run someone else is doing, but if you lose interest I'll probably pick it up at some point in the near future.
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If you were considering picking up on this run, I say go ahead and do it. I'll simply try to help along the way with ideas in that case. After examining the game again, and taking into account what experience I DO have with the TAS tools, I'm thinking I was a little too ambitious picking a game that effectively has a lot of down time to try and make an entertaining TAS.
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I worked on this game a little bit and did up to 1-2. Tiger- had a nearly perfect first stage (he was one frame slow on the intro), but I can't say I find shooting enemies as soon as they're onscreen is the most entertaining thing. Sooo.... I spend some time playing around with the enemies. "BUT OH NOES" you might say "THAT WILL MAKE IT UNOPTIMALZ" You would be right in other games, but thankfully not this one. Each enemy is on a level timer, so if all lag were reduced, they would appear at the same exact time no matter what you do, and how many enemies you kill. Therefore, I let most of the enemies live at least long enough for me to shoot one of their bullets midair to help increase my Vulcan meter (since it is the most kickass gun in the game). I also end up manipulating a grenade launcher 3 times in the level, because the only thing more awesome than cowboys and robots is cowboys and exploding robots. Oh, each enemy that is killed takes 1 second off the clock, so as the level ears the end, I concentrate more on simply demolishing enemies as soon as they show up, to get to the boss faster. Unfotunately, because the grenade launcher causes some desplosions, if there is too much going on onscreen at the same time, some lag is produced. But I'm not worrying about that because the extra help from two grenade launchers and Vulcan will offset much of the time lost from lag. Anyway, here is my WIP. It is only 51 frames faster than Tiger-'s run (due to said lag), but is 822 frames faster than Nightcom's published run. EDIT: Meh, if anyone cares I'm through the level 2 boss and am 80 seconds (yes, seconds) faster than Nightcom, plus I've added some fun little messages and games during the waiting times that pop up now and then.
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I thought this previous message said "Any comments?" before, which I had plans to reply "Only that it's awesome" to, but perhaps I was just hallucinating.
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Looked good to me, keep up the good work. :) And 80 seconds improvement is really crazy...
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Truncated wrote:
I thought this previous message said "Any comments?" before, which I had plans to reply "Only that it's awesome" to, but perhaps I was just hallucinating.
It did, but no one had responded so I took it out when I edited in the new smv. I'm done with level 3 now, and I'm very pleased with how things are going so far. I'm basically halfway done (two other regular levels and another boss level), and I'm two minutes and 13 seconds faster, while being (IMO) a whole hell of a lot more entertaining. Thanks for the words of encouragement guys!
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Very nearly done with this, I just have two sub-levels and the final boss left to go. I plan on banging it out tomorrow, if all goes according to plan, so expect it pretty soon:)
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Sweet! I can't believe there isn't more interest in this- the WIPs have been awesome so far.