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Posted: 2/18/2017 7:37 PM
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ruadath
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Not sure if this game has been discussed here before (I couldn't find a thread), but would people be interested in a TAS of this? The game has a pretty large speedrunning community, so I'm surprised that there hasn't been any mention of it here. It seems like a trivial run, but there is a quite a bit of lag management to deal with and stuff like that.
Posted: 2/18/2017 7:55 PM
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it's a great game but I don't see it making an entertaining run. Plus I don't recall any useful glitches
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Drama, too long, didn't read, lol.
Posted: 2/18/2017 8:03 PM
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Some guy on twitch just found a textbox skip on H ending. And regarding your other point, I mean, we have a Myst run, right?
Posted: 2/18/2017 8:30 PM
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http://tasvideos.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4392
Posted: 2/18/2017 8:33 PM
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Thanks; weird didn't show up when I searched in the forums!
Posted: 2/18/2017 10:56 PM
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Well, I've almost got a TAS of the H ending done. Once I polish it up a little bit, I'll post the bk2 file here and see what you guys think. EDIT: Alright, here it is! http://tasvideos.org/userfiles/info/37126317142774101 Hope you guys enjoy and give me some feedback!
Posted: 2/18/2017 11:50 PM
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And here is an encode! EDIT: replaced with version that is 2 seconds faster Link to video
Posted: 2/19/2017 1:41 AM
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Looks great. I hope it can be accepted as any%.
Posted: 2/19/2017 1:42 AM
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looks boring just like I was expecting
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Drama, too long, didn't read, lol.
Posted: 2/19/2017 8:30 AM
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looks boring just like I was expecting
You won't be bored with my Ending S run. One thing bothering me is that Bizhawk and lsnes-rr emulate this game differently in timing (aka. lags) as well as in graphics. lsnes-rr resembles Higan graphic-wise (most notable with the main title fade-out where both of them would leave "taint" while Bizhawk always shows pitch black).
<klmz> it reminds me of that people used to keep quoting adelikat's IRC statements in the old good days <adelikat> no doubt <adelikat> klmz, they still do
Posted: 2/19/2017 2:02 PM
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klmz wrote:
You won't be bored with my Ending S run.
Do you know if the room locations are determined at game select or if they are generated after that?
Posted: 2/20/2017 10:52 AM
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Do you know if the room locations are determined at game select or if they are generated after that?
Persistent things like that are determined at game start (at main menu).
<klmz> it reminds me of that people used to keep quoting adelikat's IRC statements in the old good days <adelikat> no doubt <adelikat> klmz, they still do
Posted: 3/7/2017 10:02 PM
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I completed a test S rank run using the same route as the nico video and got 12:28.7 (~1.5 seconds faster than nico)... there's is still some room for optimization in lag and stuff like that, but I don't see any major time saves without a new route. I might look into the assembly and see if I can figure out new glitches since this game appears to be full of them.
Posted: 3/10/2017 11:34 PM
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http://clocktower.wikia.com/wiki/Clock_Tower:_The_First_Fear#PlayStation.27s_The_First_Fear_port Maybe it's better to do the S ending run on PSX version?
Posted: 3/11/2017 12:16 AM
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Almost none of the glitches work on PSX as far as I know. I think it would be a nice separate category, though.
Posted: 3/11/2017 8:14 PM
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Ending G run has been updated by Nico guy (not H) Link to video Should I attempt to break it?
Posted: 3/11/2017 8:37 PM
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Endings A to G are probably not publishable here since they are neither any% nor 100%.
Posted: 3/11/2017 8:42 PM
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Should I attempt to break it?
Yes, you should!
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Posted: 3/12/2017 11:20 PM
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Link to video
Posted: 3/13/2017 8:36 AM
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Congrats. Just curious, have you timed the alternate D ending? (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65wiZVBzzNM) I wonder if this can be done faster than H ending and serve as the any% route instead. If this the courtyard death scene skip still works on PSX version, alternate D ending will be faster for sure since you can't run pass Bobby anymore.
Posted: 3/17/2017 9:31 AM
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G Ending TAS updated by 13 frames (.21 seconds) by turning around before the scream is heard. Link to video Regarding your earlier point, Fortranm, no I have not timed the glitched D ending, but I do agree that it is something worth looking into. I might get around to that soon.
Posted: 3/22/2017 9:41 PM
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Here is my S Ending in 12:28.14, roughly 2 seconds faster than the nico TAS. Link to video Note in particular the new text skip at 1:40.
Posted: 3/23/2017 5:11 AM
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I did a frame-by-frame comparison with the nico TAS, resulting in single frame improvements in a few areas, and also found a couple of slightly faster strats in some places, resulting in a total improvement of a bit over half a second Link to video I'll probably wait to comb over this a few more times before I make an official submission.
Posted: 4/5/2017 11:16 AM
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F Ending in 8 minutes using the pool skip technique from any% Link to video
Posted: 4/9/2017 12:09 PM
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F Ending improved by 7 seconds! Link to video
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