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This is a Tool-Assisted Speedrun of Puzzle De Pon! R! for the Neo Geo. It is intended to beat the game as fast as possible, while retaining an acceptable degree of entertainment.

Game objectives

  • Emulator used: FBA-RR v0.0.3.01 (alpha version) built on Jun 2 2009
  • Plays all the 39 levels
  • Gets to the "The End" screen as fast as possible
  • Some stylistic choices might be labeled as Speed/Entertainment Tradeoffs (see below)
  • Manipulates luck
  • Plays at hardest difficulty (level 8, set by entering Service Mode at the beginning of the movie)
  • Genre: Puzzle

Comments

Puzzle De Pon! R! is similar to Puzzle Bobble (Bust A Move) in many aspects. In fact, Taito is involved in both of those games. The difference here is that the goal is to free a shape from the bubbles; every three levels, it's a Zodiac sign. Since there are 39 levels and only 12 Zodiac signs, the 13th sign is the Solar Symbol; once that level is beaten, the player becomes the sun god. Luck manipulation plays a very important role in this TAS. The rerecord count of 9241 (in before someone screams an over 9000 joke) for a 8:47 movie is not a world record, I'm aware of that, but I hope it denotes how many attempts (up to 100 sometimes) I did before shooting every bubble in order to get a convenient bubble sequence, I tried my best. The RNG here is tricky. While it only depends on the current frame and not on the keys pressed, most of the times it just doesn't want to give you bubbles of a specific color unless you fulfill a specific condition. To "unlock" some colors, sometimes you need to make a certain number of shots, sometimes you have to delete a specific set of bubbles, sometimes you have to delete all the bubbles of a specific color. Sometimes it's just faster to waste a shot than to wait for the first natural occurrance of a color. As a general rule of thumb, when I couldn't get a color I needed, I attempted to delay the shot up to ~50÷60 frames; after that it would mean I'd have to stand still on the screen for more than a second in real time and I thought it would have affected the entertainment level. Call this Speed/Entertainment tradeoff, but it's not quite that. In the end it's just faster to shoot a couple of random bubbles most of the times. Except in a couple of levels where I obviously delay a shot for a long time in order to get a star or a bomb (they can't appear in all the levels though). In some levels, notably level 3 (Aries), I'm known to take a seemingly slower sequence. While that might be true, it helps me on a long term luck manipulation. I'm not blindly saying that all my choices are optimal, and I'm sure there might be other possible sequences. I tried to pursue alternate/unexpected combinations to keep the viewer entertained, as long as those sequences weren't too much time consuming, in fact, most levels are faster when done in a way that wasn't intended. The result is a speedrun which is tightly optimised and (I hope!) pleasant to watch. The last input is used to get a faster curtain fall on level 39. That's not necessary, the last input could have been the last shot since the curtain falls anyway. But, I only add a second or so to the movie file in this way, and, more important, I get to the "The End" screen ultimately faster. Since the "The End" screen appears before than the name entry for the high score table, a name isn't entered. That would require the movie file to be 2+ minutes longer because of the unskippable ending credits. Also there is no "game over" nor "congratulation" screen after you enter the name, so the "The End" screen is a reasonable place to use as a landmark.
This is by far my most serious attempt at a TAS. I worked up to 16 hours per day on this and I tried to do the best that I could. I put a lot of effort in this movie, but ultimately it was fun to make this. Which is why I uploaded it to my Youtube channel. Even if it won't be approved here, it'll have some spotlight anyway. I hope this time I can make it, though.

Other comments

  • Explain here things the audience would probably like to see: I love Puzzle games, do you?
  • Explain also things that could be improved in your movie: You can sacrifice more speed for more entertaininment. But those tradeoffs caused me troubles in the past, so this time I went for pure speed as much as I could. Say that this is 98% pure speed an 2% tradeoffs. Of course one may say that even 2% is too much, but I stand by my choices.

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While I see some of your logic, I think you overreacted just a bit.
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...yeah lurker can't even vote and the "view counter" of this thread is actually about ~13371. Thought I think that you should tell us a real raeson if your going to quit. Else, how about you apologize for this embarassing mistake and ask an (comprehensive) admin to delete these previous unnecessary post, uncancel and continue just like nothing happened?
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This is the stupidest thing.
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Am I getting this right? A new user supports this run, but Nineko thinks people will think he made that account himself, so he cancels the submission. Where is the logic in that?
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Wait, what the hell just happened?
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There's no reason to quit BEFORE someone accuses you of being a cheater, and I really don't think anyone was about to do that anyway. Everyone who joins has to make a first post sometime. nineko, there's a lesson to be learned from the character Kathy in Sideways Stories from Wayside School. People don't like her because when people make suggestions to try and get her to be more optimistic, she ignores the suggestions, gets in trouble, and blames them. In essence, she thinks people are out to get her, but in the end she's bringing most of the trouble upon herself. As for everyone else, I think this is worth reviving and getting fairly judged.
Used to be a frequent submissions commenter. My new computer has had some issues running emulators, so I've been here more sporadically. Still haven't gotten around to actually TASing yet... I was going to improve Kid Dracula for GB. It seems I was beaten to it, though, with a recent awesome run by Hetfield90 and StarvinStruthers. (http://tasvideos.org/2928M.html.) Thanks to goofydylan8 for running Gargoyle's Quest 2 because I mentioned the game! (http://tasvideos.org/2001M.html) Thanks to feos and MESHUGGAH for taking up runs of Duck Tales 2 because of my old signature! Thanks also to Samsara for finishing a Treasure Master run. From the submission comments:
Shoutouts and thanks to mklip2001 for arguably being the nicest and most supportive person on the forums.
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Voted NO for NO reason
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mklip2001 wrote:
there's a lesson to be learned from the character Kathy in Sideways Stories from Wayside School
:D awesomely random reference i liek mklips Seriously, is puzzle bobble cursed forever?
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alden wrote:
Seriously, is puzzle bobble cursed forever?
People now know that a TAS of this game will probably get enough yes votes to be published. It's unlikely that this version is unbeatable, so maybe we'll see someone submit a faster version some time in the future.
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nineko wrote:
Do what you want, I quit. I'll set my account to an invalid email address in order to lock it forever. Goodbye guys it was fun.
Fuck you. You're a bastard. You could have finally had this submission published but NO you just have to go and cancel it because you think people will think some noob is an alt account of yours? HAVE YOU HEARD OF IP ADDRESSES? Admins have methods of checking who is who. AIM blocked for being such a dick. Off topic, there seems to be a bit of a rendering issue with this page - the logo appears again just off the top right of my screen. Looks like someone doesn't know about monitors wider than 1600 pixels.
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Lurkers can't even vote..... No body is accusing nineko of anything. :/
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OmnipotentEntity wrote:
Lurkers can't even vote.....
they can, i was able to vot imediatly after i registred (i still had a lurker status...) too bad that you gave up nin', you had a solid amount of yes votes...
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I begin to think that this was in fact a fake account of him just to have a shitty reason to quit. Like half an hour later he already cancelled his submission, nobody else had given their opinions Yeah, makes totally sense
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BadPotato wrote:
...the "view counter" of this thread is actually about ~13371.
Where's the ability to check referrers when you need it? :P
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Lurkers can't vote, and I imagine admins can (and possibly already have) checked IP addresses to see if the suspicion brewing here is accurate. It is entirely possible that the TASer has some sort of social disorder, though. That's not justification for odd behavior like this, but... don't be too harsh to judge.
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I lurk a few other forums nineko used to frequent and this is par for the course. I'm somewhat surprised he hasn't tried to break anything yet. But it did get me to watch the run so mission accomplished, I guess. It looked pretty good. I don't know if I would want to watch it again, but it was a fun little watch.
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Imagine that, uncanceled and last edited by nineko. Rediculous.
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At this point I really do think the movie should be rejected just because it was made by nineko. I also think it would make him happier.
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Cpadolf wrote:
At this point I really do think the movie should be rejected just because it was made by nineko. I also think it would make him happier.
Yeah, to prove his point that everybody hates him. By the way, why isn't this rejected anymore? Did this get lost in the transition?
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ShinyDoofy wrote:
Cpadolf wrote:
At this point I really do think the movie should be rejected just because it was made by nineko. I also think it would make him happier.
Yeah, to prove his point that everybody hates him. By the way, why isn't this rejected anymore? Did this get lost in the transition?
I wasn't aware of this having been rejected, but I assume that's not what you meant...
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Imagine that, uncanceled and last edited by nineko. Rediculous.
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Good grief.
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I loved it, and as those puzzle games are one of my favourites, yes'd.
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Highly illogical. I still like the TAS, which is what's being judged here- not the TASer.
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Exactly, I've just read some of this thread and damn: this voting scheme is biased like hell. Like, what the fuck?
Cpadolf wrote:
At this point I really do think the movie should be rejected just because it was made by nineko.
Why in the mother of ass do you think that? That's not fair at all, because you're voting for the TAS here, not the one who did it. Judging from the "adolf" part in your name I can freely say: you're acting like him.
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oerg866 wrote:
Why in the mother of ass do you think that? That's not fair at all, because you're voting for the TAS here, not the one who did it.
I know, and my vote is still a yes. It was a joke. He makes a bunch of suboptimal movies of bad games, and they get rejected for that, then he starts whining about how all the judges and half the site is against him. And when he makes a movie that might get published he cancels it for the stupidest and most paranoid reason ever, in what looks like a cry for attention, and when the buzz has cooled off he un-cancel it. So I said (jokingly) that it now should be rejected just because nineko is the author, and that he probably would prefer it that way (as he would get more to whine about).
oerg866 wrote:
Judging from the "adolf" part in your name I can freely say: you're acting like him.
YES!
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