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Mutant League Hockey is a very violent sports game. It is just like ice hockey, but there are traps on the arena, and the players are skeletons, trolls or even robots – with weapons. If too many players are killed from a team, the team must forfeit. It is the fastest method for ending the game. This TAS attempts to reach the forfeit screen as quickly as possible.

Game Objectives

  • Emulator: Gens 11b
  • Aims for fastest time
  • 2-player run
  • Genre: Sports
  • Kill count: 19

Game Settings

There are a few options in the main menu. Different choices may or may not save time.

Teams

I didn't change the teams, so by default the computer player gets the worst team and the human player gets the best team.

Controllers

I set my team to have 2 controllers, to save time.

Period length

This has no effect on the run, so I didn't change it. In this TAS, the in-game timer stops at 4:02.

Stadium

I didn't change this either. There is a possibility that some other stadium with random traps might produce a faster run, but maybe not.

Penalties

Default is off and I didn't change it. Penalties would be avoided anyway.

Reserves

Default is off and I didn't change it. It would allow calling a timeout for switching the players during the game, but it would not save time.

Death index

This changes the damage output of all mutants. I set it to maximum.

Screenshots

FRAME WAR!

The hardest aspects of the run are random mutant movements and offscreen action. Also, dead mutants on ice turn into obstacles, so moving around without tripping is difficult. I bet you can't beat my time, though.
Here's RAM watch for opponent hit points, anyway: [dead link removed]
feos: I played Bones Justice & Slayer action figures in my childhood, so added YouTube module for teh bones justice!!!
FractalFusion: Note: The two screenshots above with dialog in them are modified and are not part of the original game.
DarkKobold: Claimed
DarkKobold: Much like fighting games, sports games should generally not just aim for fastest completion, but instead show multiple oddities and glitches from the engine. Examples include [1039] NES Tecmo Super Bowl "playaround" by adelikat in 11:05.02, [1118] NES R.B.I. Baseball "playaround" by adelikat in 04:28.79, and [1438] SNES International Superstar Soccer Deluxe "playaround" by Marcokarty in 15:24.38. While this movie demonstrates an oddity, i.e. that you can beat the other team to death, that is actually a part of the gameplay itself. Thus, this TAS really doesn't live up to the standards set by other sports TASes on the site. Rejecting.
feos: Restored screenshots.
feos: Unrejecting, and changing the branch to tell the in-game mode.
feos: Claiming for judging.
feos: Accepting as explained in this post. This movie reaches the full ending for this mode.
The other submission could have competed for a similar goal while aiming for shortest input, but a missing ending scene that you have to explicitly skip to makes it questionable. Also we don't have a separate goal in Standard for aiming for shortest input, it's just the author's creative decision. And in Alternative, the run has to be entertaining, which is also questionable for several minutes of AI doing the same thing.
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Posted: 6/28/2011 12:54 AM
Post subject: Re: #3192: Aqfaq's Genesis Mutant League Hockey "Fastest Forfeit" in 00:42.2
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Warp wrote:
Shouldn't TASes always use the hardest difficulty, unless there's a good reason not to? (Or would it make any difference in this case?)
The problem with this game is that there is no clearly defined difficulty setting. When playing the game normally, changing any of the settings may or may not have an effect on the difficulty. When TASing, there are only settings that make the movie shorter and other settings that make the movie longer. I don't think the movie aiming for "fastest forfeit with slowest settings" would be much different, but surely there could be better goals for the TAS, like "playaround" or "high score" or something, but I guess we don't know without another GMV.
Posted: 6/28/2011 12:55 AM
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alden wrote:
Brandon wrote:
This is just overly violent and disturbing.
That's what makes it funny, duh. Unless you're being sarcastic, in which case, well played.
No, I'm serious. This for some reason deeply bothered me, and I've decapitated multiple fish this week.
All the best, Brandon Evans
Posted: 6/28/2011 1:02 AM
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alden
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OK, thanks for verifying. I don't respect your taste in humor. But that's ok! More for me. Unless you're still being sarcastic, in which case, very well played.
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Posted: 6/28/2011 6:40 AM
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alden wrote:
OK, thanks for verifying. I don't respect your taste in humor. But that's ok! More for me. Unless you're still being sarcastic, in which case, very well played.
I don't know whether to lie and be the master of wit, or to tell the truth and be a pussy...wait, of course I do! I was being sarcastic guys. Yeah...
All the best, Brandon Evans
Posted: 6/28/2011 6:45 PM
Post subject: Re: #3192: Aqfaq's Genesis Mutant League Hockey "Fastest Forfeit" in 00:42.2
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Warp wrote:
Well, harder difficulty usually means that it's harder, and hence takes longer. So what? You are dismissing it before even seeing it.
i never played the game, i didn't even knew about it's existence before this submission i meant to say that in some case, harder dificulty is not used because it simply lengthen the run and doesn't show more of a game ( like just having bosses /enemies with more HP.... ) i was just asking if it would change the content a lot to change the teams, (like differents moves ) or if changing the teams would affect the general gameplay.... (like spreading the blood joy all over the arena field instead of just around the CPU Bench )
Posted: 6/30/2011 10:31 AM
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This is different from real hockey how?
The victory goes to the murdered team if a team is murdered.
Posted: 6/30/2011 3:01 PM
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Always wondered what it would look like. Yes vote from me. Nice concept. :D Is this also possible in the regular NHL games? I mean.. You can tackle someone so that they get injured etc.
Posted: 7/1/2011 2:57 AM
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Posted: 7/1/2011 10:22 PM
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DarkKobold wrote:
Much like fighting games, sports games should generally not just aim for fastest completion, but instead show multiple oddities and glitches from the engine. Examples include [1039] NES Tecmo Super Bowl (USA) by adelikat in 11:05.02, [1118] NES RBI Baseball (USA) by adelikat in 04:29.23, and [1438] SNES International Super Star Soccer Deluxe (USA) by Marcokarty in 15:24.38. While this movie demonstrates an oddity, i.e. that you can beat the other team to death, that is actually a part of the gameplay itself. Thus, this TAS really doesn't live up to the standards set by other sports TASes on the site. Rejecting.
Not gonna question the decision, but I do feel this explanation is rather unfair to the whole subgenre of action games disguised as sports games. Mutant League Hockey is in this sense the same as Ike Ike! Nekketsu Hockey Bu: Subette Koronde Dairantou or Carmageddon. Playing them like sports games would be missing the point. MLH's representation of hockey per se is exceedingly poor, since it's designed as an action game in the first place. As a result, comparing it to a "proper" (even if glitched) sports game TAS such as RBI Baseball or ISSS makes as much sense as directly comparing Adventures of Lolo to Solstice just because both of them have the character moving and picking up items in a labyrinth with enemies.
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Edit: I think I understand now: It's my avatar, isn't it? It makes me look angry.
Posted: 2/20/2023 8:59 AM
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This movie has been published. The posts before this message apply to the submission, and posts after this message apply to the published movie. ---- [5100] Genesis Mutant League Hockey "Regular Game, 2 players" by Aqfaq in 00:42.20
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