I've mashed up Lord Tom's Metroid Speed Run with an Atlas map. You can watch it here.
I'd love to know what you guys think! Feel free to suggest other TAS videos you'd like to see mashed up too.
EDIT: Here's all of them so far (not all speed runs):
Nevermind... just see http://youtube.com/nesatlas
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This is awesome! It must have been an absolute headache to put together, and I congratulate you for it.
Now, what about, say, the current Mega Man 2 run? Seeing the map jump around all over the place would be hilarious.
This is awesome! It must have been an absolute headache to put together, and I congratulate you for it.
Now, what about, say, the current Mega Man 2 run? Seeing the map jump around all over the place would be hilarious.
Yeah it was a bit of a headache shifting the footage frame-by-frame... but worth it in the end :)
Mega Man would be awesome too! I've already done two already but they're not speed runs... here's Flash Man's stage.
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Frame-by-frame? How long did it take for you to create such videos?
http://www.youtube.com/Noxxa
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Very nice! Seeing how the different sectors relate to each other, and seeing how the patterns in the vertical shafts repeat, was quite nifty.
Other games I could see this working well for (just as possible ideas):
* Zelda 1 and 2
* Castlevanias
* Batman
* Blaster Master
* Legacy of the Wizard
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Frame-by-frame? How long did it take for you to create such videos?
If I had to guess... I'd say the Metroid video took maybe 16 hours to put together. Rendering in 1080p took 2 hours and final filesize was about half a gigabyte. Definitely a labor of love and totally worth it in the end :)
Would you agree?
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AndyDick wrote:
Mothrayas wrote:
Frame-by-frame? How long did it take for you to create such videos?
If I had to guess... I'd say the Metroid video took maybe 16 hours to put together. Rendering in 1080p took 2 hours and final filesize was about half a gigabyte. Definitely a labor of love and totally worth it in the end :)
Would you agree?
Heh, definitely. These videos are awesome.
Though I wonder if it's possible using Lua scripts making this easier to do.
http://www.youtube.com/Noxxa
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<Masterjun> I'm just a guy arranging bits in a sequence which could potentially amuse other people looking at these bits
<adelikat> In Oregon Trail, I sacrificed my own family to save time. In Star trek, I killed helpless comrades in escape pods to save time. Here, I kill my allies to save time. I think I need help.
Very nice! Seeing how the different sectors relate to each other, and seeing how the patterns in the vertical shafts repeat, was quite nifty.
Other games I could see this working well for (just as possible ideas):
* Zelda 1 and 2
* Castlevanias
* Batman
* Blaster Master
* Legacy of the Wizard
I already did the 1st Dungeon of Zelda but it's not a speed run... I'm sure I'll do a complete speed run sooner or later though seeing as how the gameplay footage doesn't actually move too often. Unlike Metroid which moved between 1 and 8 pixels almost every frame... ugh!
Legacy of the Wizard & Castlevania would be great too! Thx for the suggestions.
I'd really like to see if we can find a way for these to be done automatically.
And if you're taking more suggestions, M.C. Kids would make for some interesting videos.
(Too bad there don't seem to be any maps made for that game?)
I already did the 1st Dungeon of Zelda but it's not a speed run... I'm sure I'll do a complete speed run sooner or later though seeing as how the gameplay footage doesn't actually move too often.
Hmm, Zelda would be very nice... might be hard to pick which run though... the second quest run is optimized with the screen glitch, but that very glitch might look weird when displayed on a big map...
I liked the motion blur at 2:00.
Very cool. I believe much of this could be automated, though.
See for example what I did here: http://bisqwit.iki.fi/jutut/nesvpic/other.html
Examples such as "Super Mario Bros 2..." and "Rockman: Bombman... (big and long!)" are worth mentioning. Being just animated GIFs, they are without music, of course.
The automated process of mine does not know the map beforehand; it only records what was seen in the game, so it doesn't know of rooms that are never visited.
I liked the motion blur at 2:00.
Very cool. I believe much of this could be automated, though.
See for example what I did here: http://bisqwit.iki.fi/jutut/nesvpic/other.html
Examples such as "Super Mario Bros 2..." and "Rockman: Bombman... (big and long!)" are worth mentioning. Being just animated GIFs, they are without music, of course.
The automated process of mine does not know the map beforehand; it only records what was seen in the game, so it doesn't know of rooms that are never visited.
That's pretty interesting. What I've been wanting to do is have the off screen enemies being continually animated on the map until the player reaches their position. Seems like your tool could really help with that!
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AndyDick wrote:
What I've been wanting to do is have the off screen enemies being continually animated on the map until the player reaches their position. Seems like your tool could really help with that!
I doubt that's possible, since usually enemies don't move until they appear on-screen. And if you were to let them move from the beginning of the level/game/whatever, their movements would probably not correlate with what happens in the video when they do appear onscreen (i.e. appear onscreen with a different/wrong position).
http://www.youtube.com/Noxxa
<dwangoAC> This is a TAS (...). Not suitable for all audiences. May cause undesirable side-effects. May contain emulator abuse. Emulator may be abusive. This product contains glitches known to the state of California to cause egg defects.
<Masterjun> I'm just a guy arranging bits in a sequence which could potentially amuse other people looking at these bits
<adelikat> In Oregon Trail, I sacrificed my own family to save time. In Star trek, I killed helpless comrades in escape pods to save time. Here, I kill my allies to save time. I think I need help.
What I've been wanting to do is have the off screen enemies being continually animated on the map until the player reaches their position. Seems like your tool could really help with that!
I doubt that's possible, since usually enemies don't move until they appear on-screen. And if you were to let them move from the beginning of the level/game/whatever, their movements would probably not correlate with what happens in the video when they do appear onscreen (i.e. appear onscreen with a different/wrong position).
I think it really depends on the game and how the enemies move. It won't work for a lot of games, but I bet at least some would work. As for which game... can't really think of one at the moment.
You could figure how much time it takes to reach the enemy, reverse its movement pattern for that amount of time, then start the enemy from that point for your animation. But yeah, that would be a whole lot of work for something that's not very authentic...
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You could figure how much time it takes to reach the enemy, reverse its movement pattern for that amount of time, then start the enemy from that point for your animation. But yeah, that would be a whole lot of work for something that's not very authentic...
Yes exactly what I was thinking already! And honestly I think it would be worth the extra effort as long as it looked authentic... especially if its a game where enemy paths are already predetermined regardless if the player is next to them or not (like a koopa turtle walking back and forth between two pipes). All I would need to do is "sync" it for when the player actually arrives.
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GAH why do I always find out about awesome things like this when I'm at work and can't watch?! And it's even for one of my runs!
Can't wait to check it out, sounds awesome, and based on the description I would totally flip if it were replicated for Legacy of the Wizard!
