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I find this unbearably boring. It doesn't look any superior to the previous movie. While the TAS does look more accurate and precise than the RTA, I don't see where entertainment can come from with this game, unless one is really into it already. The restriction set in this movie makes no sense to me, and to have a chance to be published, as TAS of this game will have to be played as fast as possible (without cheating or prior saved games of course).
Also a question. Is it random which color the falling tiles will have? If it is, then it can be manipulated to provide more optimal patterns.
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Good, it reaches this screen and then the credits roll.
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Woah this looks awesome, way better than this movie!
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Lobsterzelda , is that the kind of movie ending you intended to make or not? As Fog has requested, please post the movie that does reach the credits.
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Ceiling clip can be done without damage taken if you can find a place near this ceiling where you can stick an arrow, hang on it, and jump from it into the ceiling. I know he looked for such places and found none, but it's still worth double-checking. And yeah, damage-ceiling-clips should be researched.
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Nice! I wonder how hard it is to beat AnS's time aside from these tricks.
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Do such platforms and such obstacles always have fixed per-level pattern and provide no way to manipulate them? They make some rooms last in a TAS almost as long as in the RTA.
Is horizontal speed constant, with no acceleration? You bump lots of corners while going around them.
What about other characters mentioned here? Which of them are available from the start? How are they unlocked, if applicable? This movie happens to be quite boring, so if some other character can beat the game faster, it will have to be implemented to be acceptable.
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Can you explain this with another pic? I don't quite get it.
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Jigwally wrote:
I wrote a script hoping to see that tile but if it's there it's cut off by the emu view.
Is there an easy way to view gui drawings past the actual game view?
Nice job checking! FCEUX doesn't have this, but bizhawk has: client.SetGameExtraPadding(int left, int top, int right, int bottom)
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Does it qualify as a best ending though?
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mGBA core updated, please test the hell out of it with the dev build!
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I started some work towards release, hopefully this month.
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I haven't touched tastudio bugs in months and I need to update mgba. The latter requires git and submodule knowledge, the former requires knowing tastudio inside out.
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AlbertHamik wrote:
Hopefully though, when it does come time for tasvideos.org moderators and judges to agree upon the standards for this
Please look at my forum rank :D It's up to me when judges agree on it. But it'd indeed be easier to start these talks officially when we already have some knowledge base to rely on. Which means, no matter when we start forming the policies, testing is the only thing that can advance this, and it can happen anytime. I just can't work on libTAS for now, so if you guys can do the testing and stick to this global goal (running emulators in libTAS and having those movies published on the site eventually), it'd help immensely and speed things up quite a bit.
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Yeah it's been tested in libTAS+PCem and it works. In addition, recently we forked PCem to include libTAS-compatibility, one has to build a certain branch for that: https://github.com/TASVideos/pcem/tree/v15_235273a
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MrWint wrote:
The new version of the movie is finished. It syncs on BizHawk versions after this commit, and will hopefully make it into a BizHawk release soon.
I don't know when that release will happen. What I'm currently doing for hawk might take a few months. Working on all the leftover bugs just to release sooner instead would mean I don't do my thing, so it's unclear.
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Warp wrote:
feos wrote:
In the world of subjective feelings there's no correctness, only popularity. Playing a game with resets is not correct. Playing it without resets isn't correct either.
I wasn't using the word "correct" in this context to mean "a mathematically provable absolute fact", but more like "valid" and "legit". It is possible for the majority to hold an invalid position or opinion. (I'm not saying that's the case here. I'm just saying that popularity all by itself isn't a good argument.)
It's all the same. Once you start assigning binary categories to subjective feelings of a crowd (this includes priorities), without going out and deconstructing their points, validity, legitimacy, correctness - are all just someone else's subjective feelings.
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Even on the tool-assisted side it can sometimes feel that way. For example, using a cheat code in a game is generally banned, even if it can be entered via controller input alone, because of it having been specifically programmed into the game as an easter egg. However, if the exact same cheat can be triggered via a glitch, then it's for some reason accepted, even though the end result may be exactly the same. Why one is banned while the other isn't, even though the end result is exactly the same, is beyond my comprehension.
If unfair advantage is being accessed via some code system (input combinations, passwords, etc), it's very feasible to check if the game has this system and enables this advantage through it. There are explicit checks and they are usually clear in the code. If the same advantage is accessed via a glitch, you won't see explicit cheat checks in the code being executed by this glitch, because it's an oversight. So in practice, it's somewhat easy to differentiate glitched advantages from cheated advantages.
But if you want to ban all unfair advantages, you'd have to make sure there's no secret/unknown/forgotten cheat system that gives them. Because without such a system being present, how do you even define a cheat? And truth is, it's near impossible to make sure there's no secret/unknown/forgotten cheat system in a given game, because you'd have to exhaustively analyze it to tell that for sure. This is unfeasible. Therefore, glitched cheats may in principle be allowed, but it's possible to require they don't make the game trivial. For example, enabling easier difficulty via a chat defeats the purpose of superplay.
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I suppose that I can take some solace in the thought that your only answer to my arguments seems to be "nobody thinks like you", which is an argumentum ad populum at its finest. Popularity doesn't make an argument correct; it only makes it popular.
I haven't answered anything. In the world of subjective feelings there's no correctness, only popularity. Playing a game with resets is not correct. Playing it without resets isn't correct either. Because there's no objective truth in either of these approaches that one could scientifically verify. And when that's not possible to verify, people's priorities do matter. They matter when there's a way for lots of different people to have some collaborative fun with something they all enjoy. Of course there are contradicting opinions all the time. They have to be balanced by relying on more common priorities. Enforcing someone's opinion on everyone else, no matter how "correct" it looks, is bad for the whole community and the hobby.
As a site, we end up with a combination of objective and subjective things, but still our policies rely on the most fundamental priorities regarding TASing that the majority shares and stands by: TASes should be creative, impressive, cheat free, and all other priorities expressed in Movie Rules. Sometimes it's possible for a single user to be so convincing that the majority agrees on a change. But without community approving it, there won't be a change. And people have brains in their heads to assess the hell out of anyone's ideas, and we allow such things to be discussed and participate in these discussions. There's no spherical popularity in vacuum that magically makes the community's decision invalid if someone's feelings get hurt. Rationality is also one of our fundamental priorities, and you can't convince rational people without it.
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Warp wrote:
In other words, it's not a very good argument for allowing the reset button.
It depends on what argument you compare it to.
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As I have been saying many times, I think that a legit speedrun/superplay ought to consist on actually playing the game, using normal controller input, not breaking the game with things like the reset button or other means. I think it wouldn't be a very ambiguous rule to forbid the reset button (with an exception granted to those three games where it's mandatory in order to advance in the game at certain points).
How many people also find such a rule unambiguous and share your notion on "legit" speedrun/superplay, "actually" paying the game, and using "normal" input?
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I don't know about any improvements to GBA only available in dev builds. Why not stable?
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That's just inherent to the goal, it doesn't mean it's sloppy (unless it's actually played sloppily).
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Taechuk wrote:
Deluge is a stamina mode, where the game ends when you fail. A "max out" (9 999 999) is theorically possible on every planet, but I feel like only one branch would be acceptable : "fastest max out". However we would need a verification movie for the unlocked planet if it is not a starter planet.
Multi is a bit special in my opinion. Reaching the The Ascent ending (the true ending) unlocks Layazero so it is a special ending, the other endings not unlocking it.
You can unlock it differently ("Finish 1000 Meteo War in Time War in under 3:00"). Other endings unlock other things. I don't think that means special. Anyway, we only have a Best ending movie class, not Special ending.
| Anasaze Music | Beat the branch route in Star Trip once. |
| Cross Bomb | See the secret ending in the straight route. |
| Freaze Music | See four endings in the branch route in Star Trip. |
| Fury Hammer | Clear Multi Route in Star Trip once. |
| Grannest | Beat the straight route in Star Trip once. |
| Able to fuse Meteo | See a total of 8 endings. |
| Vubble | See all endings in the branch route of Star Trip. |
Taechuk wrote:
Furthermire, to reach True Meteo, you have to fight an additionnal fight compared to the other two endings, so if we have a single "fastest completion" branch of the Multi route, this movie is suboptimal for reaching the true ending.
So for Multi we can have 2 branches : "Any Route" and "True Ending".
I don't understand why it is suboptimal though.
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And for Time War, there are 4 different modes, a 2-minute score attack, a 5-minute score attack, a 100 meteo sprint and a 1000 meteo sprint. Since they are all on different planets, maybe a TAS that clears all 4 with the highest score/fastest IGT could be accepted, but I'm not completely sure.
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It required LLE Interpreter to be set in the Audio menu prior to starting the movie. The movie sets that anyway. But due to unholy magic that this emulator implements, having selected this option now makes the movie sync for me regardless of what I select upon next replay.
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