Apple II rerecording is here! Woohoo
I picked this game because it was a big part of my childhood and has huge nostalgia. For TASing, well, it isn't as interesting.
The most interesting aspect to TASing this game is the luck manipulation. The game does not reseed the RNG. Therefore the RNG is always the same value at the start, regardless of frame. And the only way to change it is to do a random event in order to increment the value. Unfortunately the only main way to do this is to attempt to trade, which takes about 10 seconds. Most of the time, the bad luck you are attempting to avoid isn't as bad as the 10 second loss. The situation ends up being a "make lemonade" approach to luck manipulation similar to Dragon Warrior III non-glitch.
This movie aims for fastest time, regardless of final score. As such, I pick the banker for the obvious money advantage vs the lower final score. I pick a grueling pace but filling food rations because I found if you max out your food at the beginning (bankers can afford this) and manipulate luck enough, I don't run out of food. Also good health means better chances for good outcomes (including non-health related events, the game does not attempt to distinguish the two when accessing probabilities).
I took the shortest path, and paid money to avoid the raft scene which is slow. Also I don't buy bullets or hunt, I just make sure I have plenty of food and avoid river catastrophes and robberiess.
One of my earlier attempts was to do a grueling pace and lowest food rations. The idea was to kill off my family to avoid lost time to them getting sick and other inconvenient things. Once they were dead, I'd bump the food rations since I would have plenty for myself (hey, I'm in the Save the Frames camp). This turned out worse since they took forever to die, and their poor health led to constant catastrophes.
Note: this is a 2 disk game, for Game Name I just put both for lack of something better to put.
Anyway, If you remember oregon trail, I hope you enjoy. If you don't remember the game, why are you watching this anyway? :)

Noxxa: Judging.
Noxxa: It should be noted that this run uses what is basically the easiest difficulty mode of the run (the playable 'characters' are explicitly allegories for difficulty modes), so per the guidelines a run on the hardest difficulty (farmer) may obsolete this run even if it is slower.
That said, this run entertainment-wise is slightly above the average adelikat run. Plunge it to the deepest depths of the Vault. Accepting for publication.
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Ferret Warlord wrote:
NitroGenesis wrote:
According to adelikat every game on the AppleII is bad for TASing. Ultimate Challenge: get an AppleII run to Moons.
Prince of Persia.
The problem is that almost everything that was on the Apple II that was decent was ported to bigger and better things, and things that have been TAS-able for a long time, especially C64. When it comes to exclusives, there's... Cavern Creatures maybe?
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Ragnarokia wrote:
Wasn't entertaining to watch but the idea of having this done was funny as a concept and it made a great time. So definite meh for vault.
I also voted meh for the vault. I just don't think Oregon Trail makes for particularly interesting TAS material, sorry to say. Unless the game can be completely broken.
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gave a meh for it, brings back memories of when we first got a computer in school, wonder if on hard mode it would be a bit more unique and/or murder the family by drowning also wasn't there a way to kill them by snake bite if you went hunting?? its been way too long
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I don't really think that using The Oregon Trail is a great way to start off Apple II TASing. Meh vote. On the bright side, it's nice to see a console that hasn't seen any TASes yet get a TAS of its own.
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d-feather wrote:
I don't really think that using The Oregon Trail is a great way to start off Apple II TASing. Meh vote.
Give me time. I am working on a TAS of Wishbringer for the Apple IIe.
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Are there any directions on how to play this back in BizHawk 1.10.0? I noticed that there are two disks for this game, neither of which work by themselves. Am I supposed to use the Multi-disk Bundler? If so, how?
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FractalFusion wrote:
Are there any directions on how to play this back in BizHawk 1.10.0? I noticed that there are two disks for this game, neither of which work by themselves. Am I supposed to use the Multi-disk Bundler? If so, how?
http://pastebin.com/A3HWg3r3 (magic.xml) Obviously change the output and location to what yours is.
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Spikestuff wrote:
http://pastebin.com/A3HWg3r3 (magic.xml) Obviously change the output and location to what yours is.
Thanks, it worked. The menu option for Multi-disk Bundler was giving me problems so it's nice that there is a way to do it directly.
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FractalFusion wrote:
The menu option for Multi-disk Bundler was giving me problems so it's nice that there is a way to do it directly.
What problems is it giving you?
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adelikat wrote:
FractalFusion wrote:
The menu option for Multi-disk Bundler was giving me problems so it's nice that there is a way to do it directly.
What problems is it giving you?
I went through the hassle of testing the form just now. If the fields are not filled out in the correct order, the "Save and Run" button does not activate. For example, if you fill out the System field last, it will not activate unless you modify other fields. If the filename field is not a valid absolute path, then the "Save and Run" button does not activate. Relative paths (i.e. "test.xml") do not work, with no indication as to why. Finally, clicking the "Save and Run" button appears to do nothing; all it does is close the ROM. Trying to open the XML file which was just saved also does nothing. (Actually, it's because a tag attribute in the XML file is erroneously stored as System="Apple II" instead of System="AppleII".)
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Very cool. Please consider also making a score based run, even if it is not approved I will also gladly watch.
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I wanted to hear the floppy disc head moving and reading too!
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hegyak wrote:
d-feather wrote:
I don't really think that using The Oregon Trail is a great way to start off Apple II TASing. Meh vote.
Give me time. I am working on a TAS of Wishbringer for the Apple IIe.
...oh. Okay then. I might like to see that in the future.
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I voted meh, but I think a lot of why I liked this is that I was obsessed with this game as a kid (though, I had one of the Windows versions) and understood what was going on for the most part. To be honest, if I didn't I'm not sure how entertained I would be.
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This movie has been published. The posts before this message apply to the submission, and posts after this message apply to the published movie. ---- [2884] AppleII The Oregon Trail by adelikat in 08:24.63
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Sorry to necro this. Adelikat, you mean to say that the seed is selected at the start? Wouldn't that mean that you'd have to run the entire thing to see if you get a better seed? That sounds... time consuming.