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It's good RNG manipulation. GBA version got rejected because of the game choice, but hopefully the newer rules will allow this through. Even just for the RNG manipulation.
Voted yes.
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I'm finished. It's worth looking into more combinations of the wrong warp but that's more of a long-term thing. Movement wise it's perfect now, no possibility for improvement after my revision.
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But the biggest timesave was discovery of being able to kill two nurses at once using a glitch I discovered.
It's the same double kill that can be done within the Police Station, so technically not a discovery.
Sort of, but not really, as you don't actually hit her hitbox it seems, she kind of like walks into it. Police both get smacked at the same time.
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Should also be noted that FistaGames is the creator and has 6 "New" TASes up for all his games. Obviously just as a starting point to stir competition. Pretty cool.
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But the biggest timesave was discovery of being able to kill two nurses at once using a glitch I discovered.
It's the same double kill that can be done within the Police Station, so technically not a discovery.
I didn't have a viable setup when I went for it so the userfile where it was setting up desirable positions at the cost of a missed double kill was chosen instead.
Since I made mine just as a buffer for what is on the workbench, not as a submission with the knowledge that Bonus round is bad. Same goes for Friday the 13th if you want to hijack that one.
The only way to technically improve over this movie is somehow getting a triple kill with one swing on those nurses in the bonus round.
Other than that nothing to note. Well besides spell my alias correctly (also to the Judge. One frame error at ending input).
Edit: Oh on the topic of the brackets. You're comparing to an non-truncated version by FistaGames.
It's a 69 frame improvement over them when their input is truncated (70 if your input wasn't off a frame).
Tried getting the triple kill but I think I've seen every RNG combination at this point and it's not even close.
(I spelled it right didn't I? You mean the capitalization? Lol)
I also trimmed the file this time. Not sure why it ended up adding a frame. It definitely wasn't there when I exported the .bk2. Because I knew you'd have something to say! Lol.
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You're welcome, like I said at submission text one of the three saves should work, I just shared the one who syncs most of the time but incase the other two saves would be requested to sync just me ask for them.
It'd be a good idea to upload those into the userfiles.
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Requesting co-author. 24 more frames gone.
Re-did all your movement. The other guys are focused on the glitch but noticed your movement needed cleaning up. Really went through it in addition to improving it, there's no improving it now. There's not enough movement for any improvement to be possible.
https://tasvideos.org/UserFiles/Info/638145534967771826
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Yeah this PC is dying as we speak while my new one is on the way so just wanted to get it in, and figured I'd upload the version with the credits skipped to and then trim later rather than vice versa as noted in the description.
Thanks for the trim. Didn't check it yet, but should end on the last shot of skeet.
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There is a .10 slowdown on the dash event, due to lag. Before somebody says it. :D Tried for a long time to make it not happen and it's just meant to be.
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Hopefully my confusion is understandable. It seems aimed a certain way. Nonetheless, it's just a TAS and I'm just looking forward to having it published. Or whatever. Just glad to continue submitting here.
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Most of the things you asked about were theoreticals, I think we've both said our peace now. Just want to avoid any issues like I explained I believe to be happening, particularly because I enjoy the hobby.
The sudden publication was unwarranted and based on outside vendettas.
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I think it's important to remember that while how ShesChardcore's submission was handled is different from precedent of how it was handled in 2019 (if we can call it still precedent) - the status of that movie's publication should have no bearing on this one. Assuming no complications, this run is faster and should obsolete the (newly) published run.
And yes, the reversal (with regards to previous precedent) of how that submission was handled (and how future cases like this should be handled, when the submission is already accepted) should have been clearly documented and outlined in the rules. This should be done soon.
Thank you
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As for the run itself, a lot of the new rules revolving around "entertainment", this game is a bit of an oddity where the "best ending" changes what words you get on a boring plain end screen that is the same between both versions.
I'd also like to reiterate the even without the difficulty change and resultant outcome of the thieves coming for the ideal house first based on the difficulty system, there is still a timesave and this is not as simple as what is being argued. I could switch to hard, make the RNG exactly the same, get the good ending, and still be ahead, but my heart isnt in it
But then it's going to be a whole thing again when somebody realizes the game can be 20 minutes shorter and the run can be several frames shorter. I am firmly believing in the fact that finishing the game 20 minutes later RTA is not somehow way better than different text and frame saves too
This game is probably #1 most abusing the TAS timing rule to begin with and just gets worse if you go from beginner to hard
And then you're not only losing 20 minutes of RTA, you're losing >10 frames
Which, beautifully in close, goes back to the fact of that I really don't think Spikestuff was really all that concerned about the ending rather than who was submitting
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and to judge things according to what makes sense to us, the community.
Which is fine except a large part of the community is also staff, and also think extremely alike. I would put "putting in a controversial opinion about TASVideos and winning", especially as somebody newer or not "in" with the group, into the same category as "winning the lottery". Now, if a large number of people were polled and agreed, that's basic decision-making and majority rules, but there isn't a very big pool of people that chime in and most who do have individual relationships with each other as well as positions of power. It gets to a point where decisions being made behind the scenes are basically like asking your grandma if you're right, she's always going to say yes, regardless of how right or wrong you are.
I cite the Nach thing again cautiously (I'm not well-versed in the lore enough to know about too many other similar situations), where it seemed like it was causing a lot of problems to be constantly debating, wherein the solution was deemed to just eliminate the resistance/Nach. Our government is always arguing, but removing an entire half to stop the arguing would undoubtedly create more problems (and dangerous ones) than it would solve. Removes the checks and balances and also any good ideas that get thrown out with the bad.
feos wrote:
It also so happens that the people who wanted the policies to be xxxxx, are the head of the staff team now
This kind of sums up my point, and can vaguely be applied to anything hence the edit... "So let it be written; so let it be done."
If two people who adamantly wanted to the site to be hot green colored got elected to admin positions, there is a high likelihood the site would be hot green colored
Anyways, my point is that Spike is obviously friends with Shes and everybody's pretty friendly with Spike so this is probably a lost cause. But I have a really hard time not seeing that there was more than just TASing involved in this debacle.
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if i were you, i would just ignore them. you don't want to end up getting banned.
I'm not aware that I'm breaking any site rules, nor have I been rude to anybody. I think a ban over this would just further my cause.
Bisqwit created an amazing community and adelikat has done a phenomenal job at owning the site, but I can't help feeling from my first day joining (and a long time before, lurking) that you really need to walk on eggshells around here, select people are too sensitive (see: failed Discord joke and getting snapped at) and/or do not like the ideas of others, and on top of that there's a select number of important users that are very tight-knit (see: clique reference above), who also happen to now compromise a majority of the people who serve the site in some capacity. I suppose the outcome of this may end up being an example of this.
I kept my mouth shut for a long time on things like perhaps how being in the Discord is a bit odd compared to other communities, but if a tiny misunderstanding is going to bleed over into the main point of the site I figured I should say something.
Again, we can all pretend this isn't what happened here but I believe it's extremely clear.
I think there definitely could be some improvements to the checks & balances system, because right now the site leans almost completely to one side. I've ran and been apart of many large communities and it is extremely important. I remember watching the Nach trilogy go down and although I think the right decision was made, I do think it's important to have people on board that you don't always agree with and have different viewpoints (not citing that particular scenario as there were many more different variables, irrelevant variables, mess, and the range of extremes was a bit too wide).
Adelikat himself and Feos are always people I look forward to hearing from as they are very well-grounded (as are many others), but I do think there are some people around that are not only too extreme in their ideals, but also tend to live in an echo chamber, hampered by the fact there really isn't anybody else on the team who drastically differs in opinions. Additionally, with a large majority of the site's most active users serving in some capacity (see: The Discord chat has very few white names, although that's just one example), if you haven't noticed the userbase itself is eerily quiet, either because they worry about what you just said Logan, or because they just don't care, or perhaps because they know, like me, their input is likely going to be irrelevant in the end, because when you have 5 other like-minded, badged-up, official users to agree with you, the decisions practically make themselves with little room for other voices. I'd rather have stricter submission guidelines than that.
I spoke to several people in different speedrunning communities for particular games who time and time again seemed to have a hesistance to submitting to TASVideos and relayed similar stories of feeling like an outsider.
Anyways, thanks for coming to my TED talk. I could see from 100 miles away what was happening here, and I think it's a much bigger problem manifesting into this tiny TAS. Just some food for thought.
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- Rush to publish a submission that has been waited to be processed for over a month and a half (sudden rush), hours after mine is submitted and you've seen it
correction: spikestuff actually commented on this about 1 hour after they published chard's tas, so they wouldn't have seen it before then.
Viewed =/= interacted. I'd like to think not, but with a 10 day old post citing my intentions to submit a better run, a post on the thread several hours prior to their publishing, a submission several hours prior to publishing, etc., I think it would be very hard to miss. I'm not sure what the backend for publishing is like, but I imagine you'd have to try pretty hard to avoid blatant activity in the thread surrounding it.
I also had a lengthy friendly Discord conversation with another user late last night during periods of Spikestuff's activity citing my submission and details about the game, again something else that would be hard to miss.
I think anybody at this point would have to try very hard to ignore that this is mere coincidence. Even if so, I think quite the case is built at this point and how this is handled going forward is very crucial to indicate how honest people are, who the site curtails to, if the rules apply to all or just some, and the fairness of the site (and less importantly the community) as a whole.
There are too many variables at this point for this all to be an incredible stroke of luck, but at best, sloppy publishing not checking a forum thread for a game known to have a possible faster movie inbound since 10 days ago. At best.
But I do think it would be incredibly hard to deny how things look and the sequence of events that led to this point.
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I used MAME on BizHawk 2.9 and it was fantastic, mostly due to TAStudio.
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This is referring to the movie accidentally running a frame long at the very end of the file which I fixed several posts back just during routine polishing and double checking.
I mean, really?
Spikestuff wrote:
(asking co-auth),
Spikestuff wrote:
(asking co-auth),
Spikestuff wrote:
(asking co-auth),
Spikestuff wrote:
(asking co-auth),
Spikestuff wrote:
(asking co-auth),
Well
feos wrote:
Only if you copy a huge part of their movie and add a bit of your input here and there, then it might require co-authorship.
It's great to know that here at TASVideos it helps to know people, and additionally if somebody's (whom you've never spoken to prior) feathers get ruffled by misinterpreting a silly Discord joke, it can directly affect the results of your submissions and how you're treated here on the forums. Oy vey.
Really welcoming to new users. Love me some cliques.
I mean, any other scenario looks like this:
#6236: alex_ik's NES Contra in 08:48.36
Dacicus: Processing...
feos: Sorry for the delay, but now this movie can't be published, because an improvement has been submitted, and this record has been beaten. So I have to reject it in favor of the new movie.
Mothrayas wrote:
If the site publishes a movie knowing that a faster movie already exists (and is on the submission queue), it's violating its own rule.
It's unfortunate whenever this happens to an already-accepted submission, but this is not the first time it has happened. No movie is confirmed for publication until it has reached the movie publication list. Accepted movies can still be rejected in light of new evidence.
And this is where it really gets good
Spikestuff themself even agreed with Mothrayas in that instance AND cemented it by using another example, lol.
Spikestuff wrote:
If you're placing an argument for that you might as well place an argument for this then.
As feos, Mothrayas and myself have pointed out.
The decision won't change and that's final.
It's unfortunate it got bested, but it is what it is.
So what's up? It's unfortunate it got bested, but it is what it is. Right?
So you:
- Get into beef with me on Discord
- Leave snarky remarks on my submission
- Claim to want co-author for deleting a single frame
- Disregard comments made 10 days in advance that a faster solution exists
- Rush to publish a submission that has been waited to be processed for over a month and a half (sudden rush), hours after mine is submitted and you've seen it
- Completely go against the words of other high-ranking officials but moreso go against your OWN words
Each of these is something in itself, but the chain of events is wow.
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Other movie suddenly published by Spikestuff after sitting in limbo for an entire month and a half, 8 hours after I submitted mine, even posting on the thread days prior to my submission there was an improvement, and then x-posting this thread there as well.
Not sure why there are games (figuratively) being played here.
I'm not one for drama, but I feel I'm being dealt an alternate hand due to the undeserved Discord conflict yesterday.
Just seems odd
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great work! i always like to see an improvement, even if it is small.
Thanks Logan!
edit: adding discord context here because this post is tiny
Just for context of what was said (CPP and Pearl seemed to get the joke):
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Oh, and I just went back and checked this for the first time:
