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I think that we should add 3 more stars to the category:
SOTN, International Super Star Soccer Deluxe, and AoS "All souls".
In particular a playaround and a new platform (PSX) could add some nice variety while increasing the number of star slots available. The target for stars was to represent about 4-5% of the content of the site, it is about 3.5% now so a few more starts are in order.
A good argument could be made for All souls to get COTM's star, however.
EDIT:
Arguments for star request are greatly preferred.
SOTN:
impressive character movement, nice shortcuts, good route planning, interesting glitches, highly popular game, good example of TASing
Soccer:
A very nice playaround which is an underused category on this site. I'd like to see more impressive playarounds and starring this would go well towards that goal. And playarounds typically vary wildly in entertainment value (where many find it bad, and others find it amazing). However, this run somehow entertains a surprisingly large majority of people.
All Souls:
Does this one need arguing? It is impressive that this even exists, let alone being impressively optimized. It shows luck maniuplation at its finest and is a hugely popular TAS amongst the community.
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Zero padding puts movies in better alphabetical order. As in, the same movie + category but one is obsoleted. That alone makes it worth it. I think 5 is unnecessary, as it will be decades before that is an issue.
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Conceptually I much prefer system first but I can understand that people would want to be able to get to a game quickly by typing the name of the game.
Therefore I find Truncated's example an acceptable compromise.
Some examples under his approach:
batman-gens-818-arkiandruski.gmv
batman-nes-1049-aglar.fcm
batman-nes-350-jecy.fcm
bokudraculakun-gb-1008-sirvg.vbm
bokudraculakun-nes-1337-adelikat,randil,darkkobold,arukado.fm2
bokudraculakun-nes-89-phil,genisto.fcm
supermetroid-snes-100-817-jxq.smv
supermetroid-snes-100-1195-cpadolf.smv
supermetroid-snes-any-793-herooftheday.smv
supermetroid-snes-any-1073-herooftheday.smv
supermetroid-snes-any-1368-taco,kriole.smv
supermetroid-snes-anyingame-1075-cpadolf.smv
supermetroid-snes-glitchedany-1270-cpadolf.smv
If every movie file (including obsoletions) were in the same folder this would keep the mess sorted well I think. It wouldn't be hard to see what the latest version of a movie/category was. I vote yes.
EDIT:
As suggested by arukado, removing the author names would look like this:
batman-gens-818.gmv
batman-nes-1049.fcm
batman-nes-350.fcm
bokudraculakun-gb-1008.vbm
bokudraculakun-nes-1337.fm2
bokudraculakun-nes-89.fcm
supermetroid-snes-100-817.smv
supermetroid-snes-100-1195.smv
supermetroid-snes-any-793.smv
supermetroid-snes-any-1073.smv
supermetroid-snes-any-1368.smv
supermetroid-snes-anyingame-1075.smv
supermetroid-snes-glitchedany-1270.smv
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Voting No because this game clearly should be on easy mode instead of hard mode.
As the rules say, hard mode if preferred UNLESS the only change in enemy/boss HP. In those cases more HP will usually mean doing more of the same action in order to defeat a boss, resulting in a more repetitive, less entertaining movie. That is very much true here.
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Randil wrote:
Mr. Kelly R. Flewin had this idea: How about a run that starts from a savestate on 1 duck mode round 99, beats this round, shows off round 0, the kill screen (i.e. not kill the birds as fast as possible but rather as late as possible, to show how fast the birds fly), then resets the game, and plays 1 round each of 2 ducks and clay shooting?
The delay times between birds and clay pigeons are variable, but they don't seem to be manipulatable.
Hey look up some posts. I had that idea too! :<
I assumed that is what you were submitting in the first place given the forum thread discussion prior to this submission. I think that has more of a viable chance for publication (as a cocnept demo I guess). Though in the end, it is still just someone pointing and clicking a mouse on the first frame they can kill something. It is trivial TASing either way.
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<adelikat> doubly disappointing on the duck hunt submission
<adelikat> I assumed it was a start from savestate that showed the kill screen
<adelikat> that at least might have been a tad interesting
<adelikat> this is just a "hey I can click my mouse on the first frame possible" TAS
<adelikat> that's no more impressive than title screen optimization
<adelikat> a whole TAS of title screens
That's pretty much my opinion. I voted no.
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Yes, on February 9th, 2010 at approximately 10:30 Eastern Time Zone, the submission queue was officially down to 0 for the first time in TASVideos history.
Congratulations to the judges & publishers who worked hard to make this happen!
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Comicalflop wrote:
Why? I would hope that all I've contributed to the site makes me more than just a somebody. Maybe the author doesn't have recording equipment, or doesn't want to make one, or doesn't feel skilled enough? OoT all-temples has 2 commentaries from different peoples linked in the movie description. I see no need to limit who can do what or what has priority. We all like doing different kinds of commentaries; perhaps whoever feels like doing one should just make one, have it linked in the description, and if people like it yay, if not oh well. And if there's a technical commentary on a run cool, if there's an entertainment run cool as well. That's what I've been doing anyways, just whatever I fancy doing. Just like making TASes, it's my free time, I'll do with it what I want, whether it's make a TAS of X game, or make a commentary of whatever style on Y game.
Woah, chill out dude. I didn't say I wanted to keep anyone from doing commentaries. I'm just saying, for me, I would prefer to listen to author's do commentary on their runs. Someone else, even you, doesn't interest me personally as much. No offense, just personal taste.
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We've all agreed several times now that obsoletion is preferred where applicable.
However, that still leaves situations where it isn't applicable. Just as bad categories/goals which is what mmbossman is concerned with in the case of top gear & f-zero.
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dunnius wrote:
I have been thinking about a good tag for those publications. How about an "aged" tag? It means that the movie is aged by time or by found improvements, so it needs to be redone, but it was still good at the time it was made. I suppose an icon for this could be a long, white beard.
Publications have dates, surely the user can decide that they are aged with a bit of help from mathmatics.
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And for the record I am VERY much opposed to tagging these "bad" movies. The goal of this publication grue was to tuck them away from view of an average viewer, tagging them accomplished the opposite. Tagging puts them in the view of the audience then shouts at them "this is a bad TAS!". That's hardly image I want standing out on the site.
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Whatever naming scheme we adopt, it will be the same for input files as well as video files (and probably screenshots as well). Thus, system ID is a good choice.
And, input file extension do NOT tell you the system.
GMV could be Genesis, 32X, or SegaCD
MCM could be PCE, PCECD, PC-FX, Lynx, NGP, or WSWAN
etc.
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I can't think of any reason against prefixing them all with the system ID like that. And if we do, we should certainly do it for all movies unlike now.
As of right now they are only prefixed when they clash, which the author may not even be aware of. And NES is never specified, only other systems when they clash with NES. So all or nothing is preferred to avoid that kind of mess.
I don't see why categories should precede the ID, but I don't prefer one or the other so that is fine I guess. My thoughts were that within a given game, I'd prefer to see them listed chronologically.
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Yes you think that. But the majority don't.
Also, this particular method of unpublishing as clearly been rejected, just look at the poll results. The thread is an even more overwhelming majority.
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I think he means the subtitles that can be embedded directly in .fm2 files. But yeah, those get translated into soft subs by the publishers and thus can be on the streaming media as well.
Also the subtitle feature of .fm2 was far more of a success than I anticipated it would be when coding the feature. In the near future I hope to add it to the .fm2 clone movie formats as well (.mc2, .ymv, and .dsm).
I would like to see the idea of author commentary (whether in the form of subtitles or commentary videos) be a much common feature of the site.
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I would prefer names have the movie ID in them. And if not the movie ID, then a date. And if not a date, then I don't like this idea at all.
My proposal:
http://tasvideos.org/1279M.html
becomes:
doubledragon2-1279-adelikat.fm2
if a specific category is involved (such as if there was both a 1 player & 2 player versions of this game) then the category would be mentioned too:
doubledragon2-1279-2player-adelikat.fm2
I think this offers the best solution for finding a movie in a long list of movies. You find the game, then you can easily see which movie is the most recent and what categories might be available.
It also means that the user could easily determine the url of the publication and go there.
A date instead of movie ID accomplishes the same goal except with the drawback of not knowing the movie URL.
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What I got from the thread is that there is more people not wanting runs removed than those wanting to remove 2 specific movies. And even some that favor getting rid of those 2 movies favor not unpublishing movies even more than they favor removal. Am I wrong on this? *5 pages of arguing ensues*