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Posted: 12/3/2004 11:55 AM
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according to wikipedia: "However, leetspeak is not popular amongst all hackers. It is thought that leetspeak has lost some of its eliteness after "everybody" started to use it." i was about to say that as i typed 1337 on google and the first page was it. stupid to call yourself an underground 1337 computer expert if everyone uses it, which includes your average grandmother and 5 years old teletubbies-watching-kids... :P
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Posted: 12/3/2004 11:47 AM
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and what is so special about the number 1337? leet? 3D337: 0000K I jest r34d aN 4i2T1Cl3 on Za WeB and Th15 iS DU|V|B!!
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Posted: 12/3/2004 11:38 AM
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no, you dont start record, you just load the state while WATCHING your movie, not while recording.
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Posted: 12/3/2004 11:37 AM
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there are places where you must reach higher plataforms, does damage only bounce you backwards or does it bounce you up-backwards?
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Posted: 12/3/2004 11:34 AM
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that really is a lot of time improved, i haven't watched it, but it would be a suplement to the existing run people would wonder why it takes more time to finish the game as 2 players. so if this gets published it would have to remove the 2 player run. i dont know, the current run seemed fast to me, i know the game very well, but you could improve it by 2 minutes, the flying knees must have done a pretty good job. hmm i have to watch this, 2 minutes is a lot
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Posted: 12/3/2004 1:03 AM
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oh..... http://tasvideos.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=54&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0&sid=c75d114ff1820e2e2cd896c041043dd9 i hadn't seen that. but nm, it's too old i've played the 1-1 and 1-2 levels aiming for highest score, and it took 32 more seconds. mainly because of going up to the bonus level and because of more point count. originally i made it in 2:11 but aiming for highest score it went up to 2:43... way too much. so what i'm gonna do is aim for fastest frame time possible, ignore all score issues but will kill as many enemies as possible in most impressive way possible.
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Posted: 12/2/2004 7:26 PM
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huahuahua that was funny =)
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Posted: 12/2/2004 6:17 PM
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or maybe they didn't know how to fix the bug and thought "heck, anyone stupid enpough to buy this game won't ever get this far anyway, dumb are we for having porogrammed the next 2 levels! we should have taken those 2 levels and released cheetahmen III!!!"
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Posted: 12/2/2004 5:57 PM
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holy shmolly this is not a game, this is a programming error with (bad) graphics! i watched it, well executed, it's a real shame that we can't watch the last 2 levels... it's real easy to fly using that big guy, did anybody try it? after the movie is done you can control him, just hit A and then hit B while punching and you can jump in the air as many times you want :P
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Posted: 12/2/2004 3:47 PM
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ok, I finished the movie, here it is, with savestates to help skipping. the rom is correctly renamed thanx to Spoony Bard. http://www.angelfire.com/ex/uobt/FODA-AdventureIsland-J.zip the savestates are as follows: 1 = last fight (spoiler! yea right... the ending sucks :P) 2 = level 2-1 3 = level 3-1 4 = level 4-1 5 = level 5-1 6 = level 6-1 7 = level 7-1 8 = level 8-1 9 = level 8-4 Instructions: open the rom, open the movie, mark "READ ONLY" option, then you can load any state in no specific order, as many times you want. just dont save anything. and remember that if you watch the last fight the movie will stop after the last shot, so you can load the states but the movie is no longer playing, you would have to load the movie again. now i have to take care of my university affairs, i will start over next week. next version is guaranteed to be more entertaining. i ain't even submitting this one. by the way, the movie is 133298 frames long, which is 37 minutes. but there's slow down on many parts so i dont think that's the real time, it would be a bit longer. i've taken note of all frame count for each level. here it is: 1-1 = 3971 (from power on to last point count frame) 1-2 = 3906 1-3 = 3984 1-4 = 4355 2-1 = 4217 2-2 = 3950 2-3 = 3844 (shortest, many forward moving plataforms) 2-4 = 4377 3-1 = 4301 3-2 = 3940 3-3 = 3952 3-4 = 4542 4-1 = 3962 4-2 = 3901 4-3 = 3933 4-4 = 4487 5-1 = 4044 5-2 = 3898 5-3 = 4349 5-4 = 4466 6-1 = 4110 6-2 = 4008 6-3 = 4013 6-4 = 4545 7-1 = 4246 7-2 = 4173 7-3 = 3963 7-4 = 4663 (longest) 8-1 = 4443 8-2 = 4500 8-3 = 4330 8-4 = 3886 (no point count screen, but still not the fastest level) total = 133298 i still am not sure as for the levels length being the same in pixels, but the moving plataforms and the firecamps make it impossible to say that all levels can be done on the same speed.
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Posted: 12/2/2004 2:28 AM
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my PS2 keyboard has the same limitations as my old serial keyboard, as far as i've noticed. i never used a USB keyboard
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Posted: 12/2/2004 2:20 AM
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Vendetta is another konami game, beat em up, 4 simultaneous players, VERY good, anyone who likes double dragon or streets of rage should play it at least once. also known as "Crime Fighters 2" in Japan. Simpsons = Konami Wonder boy = Sega (along with Escape, who later sold the engine to Hudson) edit: true, none of those work, but one game that i like a lot and work is Neo Drift Out (Neo Geo), a racing game, i'm surely gonna do that, in fact already experimented recording the first track, and it went smooth. :)
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Posted: 12/1/2004 10:55 PM
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oh i see.. i was sure i had seen that "sorry try anotehr game" somewhere... hehehe... ok now i'm gonna watch mystic defender edit: done watching. hmm i was most impressed that the character does all that just to meet a naked woman!! O_O i have never played the game, but can't u take damage to save time?
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Posted: 12/1/2004 10:50 PM
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if that is because you are making a two players run you can set player 2 to use the gamepad, or you can set some buttons to the same key (i.e. RIGHT button for player 1 and player 2 set to the "right key" on the keyboard.) you can also use keys like Shift, ctrl and alt, they usually allow for more simultaneous keypresses. also the arrows on the numeric keypad work better with multiple keypress than the usual arrows.
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Posted: 12/1/2004 9:19 PM
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i saw his post and i dont think it was "delete" material, it was rude, but it was just his opinion...
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Posted: 12/1/2004 8:27 PM
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which is here http://tasvideos.org/EmulatorHomepages.html (Edited by Bisqwit: pointed at the right address)
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Posted: 12/1/2004 6:52 PM
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somehow King of Dragons, Vendetta, TMNT, Simpons and Wonder Boy weren't mentioned, i think they are great options for timeattacking (arent they emulated by final burn?)
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Posted: 12/1/2004 5:58 PM
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it looks like this is a hot topic again, just being discussed on the wrong forum (lots vikings submission). i think that as i got used to making movies i like the wobbling a bit more now, but still it shouldnt be repetitive, wobbling should be used as one of the things you can do while waiting. it's ok to wobble once, but it would be boring to wobble all the time, so find all kinds of different things to do while waiting...
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Posted: 12/1/2004 3:08 PM
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can you put some really unusual music? it would be cool if the watcher noticed "wth is this music doing here?" :)
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Posted: 12/1/2004 2:25 PM
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hmm where's the latest version download link? shouldnt it be added to the first post in this topic? i couldnt find it *_*
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Posted: 12/1/2004 12:05 PM
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4matsy wrote:
Yeah, the original arcade Wonder Boy ended at 7-4 unless you got all the dolls, in which case you went to area 8. I guess when they ported/hacked it into Adventure Island, they figured it'd be crazy to try and get 28 pots in one game, so they just made area 8 unhidden :p
Wonder boy indeed is the original game, first released on the arcade. What happened is that Hudson bought the rights to the game but didnt buy the rights of the characters and music. So they took the game, inserted their own graphics, characters, music and changed somethings here and there (mostly adding stuff). Sega continued the wonder boy series but the following games have a very different style from that of wonder boy (1).
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Posted: 12/1/2004 3:10 AM
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that's being called as "wobblying" and it's present in many movies on this site hehe
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Posted: 12/1/2004 2:06 AM
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damn.... i'm at 8-3 and i feel like doing everything again!!! basically because of 2 things: the movie looks boring and i am such a newbie for not using the frameadvance button! (i realized it while wacthing BoltR's ninja gaiden run). i'll just finish this movie recording the same way i did the whole movie but then i will start over with some completely different things in mind: - record at 100% speed all the time and using the frame advance button for precision. - kill all enemies / rocks before they appear on screen, or as soon as possible, or on the last frame possible. the reason for this is that the movie lacks action the way it is now, and the fact that i found out that releasing the B button for only 1 frame doesnt slow you down at all. and avoiding the enemies isnt as hard as killing all of them. - get best score. i'm not planning on doing bonus levels though, they all add too much time to the run. but getting eggplants is definitely in my plans because reaching the goal with an eggplant on the screen gives 5k points. also, the point count at the end of the level isnt slow at all, sure avoiding fruits is faster, but as i watched the run i got bored, really. - i tried to do fancy stuff after each boss being beaten and i think i did it good enough. i found a little bug at the edge of the screen, if you place half of the character outside the screen and jump, he will go up but will stand on the highest point of the jump as if there was a plataform there, it's just curious, no real use as the only place you can touch the edge of the screen is after the boss is dead. - on wonder boy if you get all pot bonuses you get a 13th level, but on gamefaqs nobody says anything about this for adventure island, i doubt there is a 9th level though. - also it doesnt seem to matter whether you jump off a ledge or if you fall from it, the frame count looks exactly the same (by skateboard), so i will stop worrying about that as i had in mind that in this game falling off ledges was faster. - add some wobblying wherever possible, to break the repetition... - i'm also thinking of getting all hidden eggs. after getting 3 rings, the next ring is a 1-up. finishing the game with 9+ lives would be nice, as i bet few living people have ever seen more than 6 lives remaining in this game. the problem would be that thesehidden eggs normally require stopping to unveal them and then kicking them, the only case that this rule didnt apply was at 1-3 because the egg was on the ledge and i came from under, so it was like a really small jump that worked as unvealer and breaker at the same time.
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Posted: 12/1/2004 1:32 AM
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oh, i see... frame advance, of course :) very well done, very precise, the movie's precision is eye-candy
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Posted: 12/1/2004 12:41 AM
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man or machine? the wobbling was perfect, how did you walk and wobble at the same time? you played at slowest speed, 2 frames holding RIGHt, 1 frame holding left, and so on? 20 times in a row? crazy! very well done, congrats, great movie!
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