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We allow one to see which movies skip a final boss using: Wiki: Movies-C3042Y
Do you think we should be keeping this feature or getting rid of it?
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Perhaps someone could present some arguments pro and con, so that we can form a more informed opinion and get all the details that may not be clear from the get-go?
(I ask because I don't really understand why someone would oppose this. There may be something I'm missing here.)
That depends. Does one-shotting a boss with a luck-manipulated crit count as "skipping"? Does underflowing his hit point total with a healing spell count as "skipping"? If the boss has multiple forms, does skipping one of those forms count as "skipping"?
If the final boss is supposed to be a very difficult fight but an optional McGuffin exists that lets the player skip that fight, does that count as "skipping"? Conversely, if obtaining the McGuffin is the intended path through the game and actually fighting the boss is wildly infeasible except with TAS techniques, does skipping the McGuffin count as "skipping"?
Some clarity about this tag would be good here.
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Warp wrote:
I ask because I don't really understand why someone would oppose this.
I don't really understand it either. But feos is opposed to it because he thinks more tags means more clutter, and certain tags may be near supersets of other tags.
Radiant wrote:
Some clarity about this tag would be good here.
It's specially referring to using a glitch of some sort to skip the final boss, such that the final boss is never fought, even though expectations by all normal players is that the final boss must be fought to win.
The tag on the movies is currently referred to as Final boss skip glitch which may be illuminating. I'm not attached to the actual naming if people want it renamed. But the concept is somehow not fighting the required final boss and some how still completing the game.
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It's specially referring to using a glitch of some sort to skip the final boss, such that the final boss is never fought, even though expectations by all normal players is that the final boss must be fought to win.
Okay, so if you actually enter combat with the final boss in any way, then it's not this tag?
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Radiant wrote:
Nach wrote:
It's specially referring to using a glitch of some sort to skip the final boss, such that the final boss is never fought, even though expectations by all normal players is that the final boss must be fought to win.
Okay, so if you actually enter combat with the final boss in any way, then it's not this tag?
Right.
However, an exception could be made where a boss has multiple stages. So skipping the final boss stage alone via a glitch could also claim the tag.
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