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Game objectives
Emulator used: BizHawk 1.8.4
Genre: RPG, Puzzle, Strategy
Heavy luck manipulation
Aims for fastest time
p/s: Sorry my English isn't good, hard for write exactly all I want
Basic Information
For game information: http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Dragon_Ball_Z:_Super_Saiya_Densetsu
About my TAS: This's just lucky and strategy run. Before run I was list strategies need do, but sometime because I have good lucky then my strategies was wasted a little time, I was try remake but it have worse
Advanced Information
  • Damge: it depend BP of attacker combine with attack stat card and type card (or type KI attack) then minus with BP of victim combine with defense stat card and type card
  • Random enemies: have some steps number can use for move around on map, when over steps then must meet enemy. After meet enemy, steps number will be reset
  • Bonus attack: after attack by card, it have luck ratio can make bonus attack by special attack (crashing head)
  • Counter attack: after enemy make normal attack (not KI attack) by card and don't have make bonus attack, it have luck ratio can make counter attack by normal attack
  • More attacks in a turn: all bosses have luck ratio can make more attacks in a turn (Vegeta too), maximum they can use 3 cards in turn
  • Control Vegeta: when have him in team, have 30-50% ratio he'll not attack enemy
  • Best ending: meet Super Saiyan Vegeta
Tips and Tricks
  • Luck Manipulation: the its core most of time are result combine with timer. The result is depend what thing I'm doing, it's not alway same but most time is same. For do, I was try change and gain timer, if still don't have good then I try change result and repeat timer. That's why sometimes you'll see me must wait a little, it's just slower for faster. The hardest problem when I must make enemy draw low defense card and still can draw good card (change timer, change result)
  • Strategy: I'm alway main target to make enemy have lowest defendse then use highest attack for kill enemy fast as possible (must calculate damage). Next, I'll try draw good cards. Next, I'll try make enemy use at least turns and attacks for save time
  • Skip meet enemies: before meet enemy a frame just need stop wand wait time can pass enemy. But next time I got low steps number more than and time can pass enemy is longer. Skip enemy until time can pass enemy is too long then I must meet enemy for reset steps number
  • Make enemy escape: most of time it depend coord I'm standing and timer when meet enemy
  • Escape enemies in battle: except meet boos, it depend timer select escape menu
  • Draw card: it depend what card used and timer when done a turn or battle. With first time meet enemy, it depend timer meet enemy and what cards I having
  • Destroy a card: this's a bug when I meet real Raditz, it help me can draw a card without need a attack turn. After select Goku sacrifice with Raditz a frame, then select Goku again
Thanks
originalnintendo for his example video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvhnUa8LtuY

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Posted: 11/19/2014 9:44 PM
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This topic is for the purpose of discussing #4486: NhatNM's SNES Dragon Ball Z: Super Saiya Densetsu "best ending" in 1:20:38.32
Posted: 11/19/2014 10:00 PM
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Posted: 11/19/2014 11:46 PM
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Nice TAS! I haven't played this in almost a decade! I loved all of the luck manipulation, throughout (only repetitive parts were in the dungeons, collecting dragon balls). As for the 1st Vegita fight, how did you clone Goku?
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Posted: 11/20/2014 12:53 AM
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This beats you in nearly half the time. http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm21195042 Granted, it doesn't get the 'secret' ending, but that's just a matter of letting a character die in the last battle (other than Vegeta). At worst, it just requires another round or two of the BP exploit to get Gohan strong enough to one/two shot him too, so even with having to wait out the credits, it's still probably at least 30 minutes faster than this. Edit: From your comments not mentioning it and an admittedly brief glance at the encode, it looks/sounds like you didn't use the BP/leveling trick at all. Characters like Goku, Gohan, and Vegeta gain a free level every time their HP is reduced to some small amount (<5?) and then they're healed to full. This is extremely exploitable while you have the character that heals for basically free even in real time, but I'd expect it to be done through the entire game in a TAS. 2x Edit: Yeah. Watch that run. It's much faster than you from the very start and could have easily gotten the 'secret' ending with probably close to 35 minutes to spare over this run. It glitches Gohan's BP to an absurd level right from the start, so not even using the BP exploit really. I'm sure someone can help you with the Japanese commentary about the tricks used for that and the other stuff like skipping/teleporting/glitching the hell out of the interface. Even as a low glitch run, without manipulating damage for free level ups to boost Goku/Gohan's level/BP, this is pretty clearly suboptimal.
Posted: 11/20/2014 4:20 AM
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@ars4326: Yes I forgot write it @Tangent: Boo, my fault, didn't search Japan name, only search English name. Yes I didn't know glitchs in that video. I have found a bug can help max level but it'll make game crash Ok I'll cancel this
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Posted: 11/20/2014 4:21 AM
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Posted: 11/20/2014 4:37 AM
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Looking forward to seeing the next TAS of this game!
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Posted: 11/20/2014 5:04 AM
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I'm with Patashu in looking forward to the next one. Kinda disappointing to discover that a faster run was made elsewhere. But hey, that just gives you a goal to reach :)
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Posted: 11/20/2014 5:23 AM
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@Tangent: Thanks your info, it's cool run with cool glitchs @Patashu & ars4326: Thanks your motivation. I was watched that run, it was optimized too good, I didn't see anything can improve more than except I can find better glitchs
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Posted: 11/20/2014 3:37 PM
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There are a few less glitched runs on Nico that are also faster. That one has the input attached so it shouldn't be that hard to figure out what was done.